I had just uninstalled HL2DM.

Why do you respawn with 2 handgrenades?
Why do you respawn with an SMG?
Why do you respawn with a Gravity Gun?

Why does the RPG makes so much splashdamage if it is supposed to be a hit weapon?
Why do you have 3 SLAMs when you pick one down from the ground?

Why do Combine Balls chase you?
Why do Combine Balls do not kill their owner?

Why are physics random?
Why is it random the damage produced by the shotgun?

Why can't I set my server to 100Tick if I want to?

Why in the hell does CAL turn off the friendlyfire? This incentivates the game to make more spam, instead of checking out there if there is a teammate you just go throwing explosives and cballs everywhere.

Enough is enough, I just unninstalled it. But I still got my HLDM, HLDMS and HL2DM Pro installed.

I think everybody should unninstall HL2DM from their SteamGames and turn off all the servers. Lets get on strike, I'm so damn tired of the randomness of this game, even when I see blood I don't know if I had hit or not. For christ sakes, why on hell are physics so random? You can walk over a chair and get killed, but you can throw a greenshit at an enemy with an incredible force and he just goes flying away and 0 damage was made.

In top of that, you can't set a server at 100Tick since 2004.

Now I know why is it free. For Christ's Sakes.

It would be an infinitely long strike man.

However, I feel you an infinite amount of percent. Try playing life, it is a much more realistic and fun game.

In life, you can perform a random update at any instantaneous moment you desire. You will be able to fix any bug you feel there is. There will be nothing from enabling you to excel, the road is endless. It's a nice game....but it takes hell amounts of skill.

I am depressed. Very much so. Bye now.

Why do you respawn with 2 handgrenades?
Utility belt Batman.
Why do you respawn with an SMG?
Because it sucks.
Why do you respawn with a Gravity Gun?
So you can deflect that barrel that some asshole is throwing at your spawn point.

Why does the RPG makes so much splashdamage if it is supposed to be a hit weapon?
Last time I checked, Rocket Propelled Grenades were made to fuck shit up.
Why do you have 3 SLAMs when you pick one down from the ground?
They split apart, 'cause they're actually mini Transformers.

Why do Combine Balls chase you?
Because they're assholes. They actually wanna kill you. Some say orbs are the soul of the Companion Cube coming back to haunt HL2DM.
Why do Combine Balls do not kill their owner?
Again, because they're assholes.

Why are physics random?
It's not, prolonged use of the grav gun causes halucinations.
Why is it random the damage produced by the shotgun?
Because the shotgun spread is random. The gnomes that control the spread are also assholes. Some people they like, some people they don't, so some people get a tighter pattern, while others spray pellets 90 degrees to the right or left.

Why can't I set my server to 100Tick if I want to?
You can. It'll play funny, but you have permission from Valve to do so.

Why in the hell does CAL turn off the friendlyfire? This incentivates the game to make more spam, instead of checking out there if there is a teammate you just go throwing explosives and cballs everywhere.
Because CAL is run by North Americans. We like to blow shit up.

Enough is enough, I just unninstalled it. But I still got my HLDM, HLDMS and HL2DM Pro installed.
GLHF

I think everybody should unninstall HL2DM from their SteamGames and turn off all the servers. Lets get on strike, I'm so damn tired of the randomness of this game, even when I see blood I don't know if I had hit or not. For christ sakes, why on hell are physics so random? You can walk over a chair and get killed, but you can throw a greenshit at an enemy with an incredible force and he just goes flying away and 0 damage was made.
You go first, we'll be right there...seriously, just wait for us, we got a few things to do first...I'm on it though...

In top of that, you can't set a server at 100Tick since 2004.
We discussed this already.

Now I know why is it free. For Christ's Sakes.
I like Baby Jesus the best.

If you think that all of us quitting is going to make a rats ass bit of difference to Valve and is going to make them fix it any faster then I have some ocean front property in Arizona to sell you. That isnt the answer. Yea the game has problems, but love playing this game and I am going to stay and help support the people that are trying to get Valve to change some of it.

s0iz wrote:Why do you respawn with 2 handgrenades?
Why do Combine Balls do not kill their owner?

Oh me I can answer this one, I have tried in HL1 to code a projectile which can hurt its owner and its very hard to do right with the tools given. Even after we thought we had it right sometimes it would just glitch out and explode in your face. Basically in hl2dm you would probably see owners getting vaporized when they shot the ball. And then you would be even more mad.

As for those other games you listed. Haha HL2DM Source? Your kidding right thats buggier and crappier then this one. HLDM is the cleanest of them but you are bound to die from your own tau cannon due to bugs too and don't get me started on the various other nukes. You probably don't play those games as much or at the level you do here cause there is plenty of crap with them too. Most of your problems are just the reality of valves client side prediction and you got all that same exact crap in all the other games you listed. Shotgun random damage as well.

-insert poorbilly dolphin cry-

nice answers rico

heres mine

Why do you respawn with 2 handgrenades?

Why do you respawn with a Gravity Gun?

because those two things are the only things in this god loving game that will save u ass when u respawn in front of someone that does have something else than a pee shotter.

Why does the RPG makes so much splash damage if it is supposed to be a hit weapon?

as said already those things in RL can really f U up even if they miss off a foot so why not here smg nads do the same only difference is that the rpg explosion can be more controlled and directed.

Why do you have 3 SLAMs when you pick one down from the ground?

emm don't care hardly use it. I guess it so that the user will have enuff to surround a spawn point where the only way out is death

Why do Combine Balls chase you?

emm yea that does get on my nerves don't really understand why they track may bethey are attracted to matter or have a mind of its own that wants to take U out before its life ends. But I think the orb will be a more skilled weapon if it did not track. damn thing always kills me on the last orb bounce even when my mind calculates the gegertory and always get it wrong because the damn thing can come in at 45 degrees and instead of coming out off a bounce of 90 degrees adjsent to it bounces off 15 degrees right towards me. Better if it was like crossbow where u can be more calculated with your shot making it more of a skilled weapon than sometimes end like lottery where where your likely to win.

Why do Combine Balls do not kill their owner?

yep another random thing to add to the game that will make it better? . Trust me it can be even more enoying if it could.

Why are physics random?

emm yea really strange may be because RL physics are random like rolling a dice.

Why is it random the damage produced by the shotgun?

may be its better that way forcing u to work with the physics of how a rl shotgun works. Like if u have a shotgun u work your self closer to your opponent or draw them in to do bigger damage to them. Also it does require aim to make sure the u aim dead center and on the sweet point for max damage. Ohh RL is random why have u not uninstalled that?

Why can't I set my server to 100Tick if I want to?

they are out there RaW has some be we considering changing them to 66 tick because the grenade timing is off and for me it feels strange. Also elevators kill U they don't like 100 tick and so does physics.

Why in the hell does CAL turn off the friendlyfire? This incentivates the game to make more spam, instead of checking out there if there is a teammate you just go throwing explosives and cballs everywhere.

Here in Europe we play FF on don't know who decided this but i guess we are better off because it forces us to use communication thro out the whole game in order to win. But judging how u reacted to the rest of the stuff in this game u will not like it imagine u got a got couple of kills just to have your team m8 blow u up and ruin your kill ratio.

Enough is enough, I just uninstalled it. But I still got my HLDM, HLDMS and HL2DM Pro installed.

hl2dm is the most active ones of those lot GL with that.

I think everybody should uninstall HL2DM from their Steam Games and turn off all the servers. Lets get on strike, I'm so damn tired of the randomness of this game, even when I see blood I don't know if I had hit or not. For christ sakes, why on hell are physics so random? You can walk over a chair and get killed, but you can throw a greenshit at an enemy with an incredible force and he just goes flying away and 0 damage was made.

well only way to get valves attentions to help it grow not to minimize it. Valves is like just any other company they make changes if it benefits allot of people not just a few.

Why does the RPG makes so much splashdamage if it is supposed to be a hit weapon?
Last time I checked, Rocket Propelled Grenades were made to fuck shit up.

LMAO!

i love this game, its so fun!

s0iz wrote:Why do Combine Balls chase you?
Why do Combine Balls do not kill their owner?

In singleplayer they cb's are great. SP was released before DM... you do the math.

Maybe i'll waste my time for your emo post at some point.

other then these....

Why are physics random?

Physics got nerf'd in a update now instead of dying 100% of the time it's 75% Help with the other stuff you cry about


Why is it random the damage produced by the shotgun?

the shotgun...has a random spread

NA HL2dm is FF off, because NA HLDM was/is ff off
Keeps the speed of the game up


Sorry maybe i am wrong but when i here people complain about 'randomness' all i can think it means is 'this person should have never killed me because i am better then them' That's what drove Rhideon crazy enough to drive him into the biggest Wow binge ever. In Hl2dm Deaths are meant to be fast and ya sometimes can be easy.

You really want people to spawn with only a pistol and a crowbar?
That's retarded later

FF off keeps the speed of the game up but incentivates spam, and I think the game gets screw when all you do is throw explosives and camp RPG location.

RPG is not meant to blow people, RPG is meant to neutralize choppers/trucks/jeeps/tanks/whatever but never soldiers, its splash is shitty. For good examples of RPG against units you can see Black Hawk Down, it kills you only if it really hits you, like a bullet. Or an anti-personal mine in your foot lol. Not 5m behind you.

I think Valve is NEVER going to expend time in a game that is free and still isn't popular. Sorry but reality is reality.

Uncle Rico: I lol'd!

Potato: I used to feel the same, but I don't see the point in playing an unfair and completely unbalanced game. I still thinking this game has a lot of potential, that is why it remained as my favourite MP for many years, and now I totally hate it.

Gameplay needs to be fixed as well as the game engine. And I don't think they do so.

Incentivates...good word.

Anyways, I don't think this game is unbalanced..in a 1v1, both players have chances to capture control points in a map first, and even if you don't usually you can take them out and take over the control point for your own little reign.


And you would want to spawn WITHOUT a gravity gun? That's suicide. No nade-cooking, no fast balls, no prop throwing, no prop catching, no deflecting, no grav jumping, the list goes on and on and on.

I wouldn't like to respawn w/o a GravGun, I'm just saying it to let you see how overpowered you actually are when you respawn, you have 2 nades that make 250dmg each one if you cook it well. Just picture that.

That 250 dmg can come back to bite you in your ass too, the smg rarely will get you out of a jam and if it does it's usually because the other person didn't have much left to take you out.

does anyone here seriously believe that valve will fix this game if we go on strike i think they'll just continue to ignore this game as they already are...if you think otherwise i need some proof

s0iz wrote:I wouldn't like to respawn w/o a GravGun, I'm just saying it to let you see how overpowered you actually are when you respawn, you have 2 nades that make 250dmg each one if you cook it well. Just picture that.

what if the person has a Rpg near your spawn?

So you assuming the person has the skill to use the nades 100% of the time?

what happens if you miss? Now you have to be dead on for the next.

The 2 nades gives you a fighting chance to get to a weapon. Which Creates balance.

oh and for the balance of the rpg, lets say two people have 100% aim,

at distance the person with the 357,Cb ball wins over the rpg everytime
At very close range the person with a shotgun wins unless the RPGer is willing to jiad which is even in points

RPG also you have to judge where the person is going before and as you fire. you can only make small changes after. So if you are being attacked you have to fake out the other player into firing short or far.

It is the best weapon overall, but other have there points where they can get a kill against it.

Keeper's cardinal rule of spawn etiquette:

Use one nade to protect yourself until you can get a stronger weapon.
Save the other one for a JIHAD.

IMO, there are too many single kill weapons in hl2dm. But at the same time that brings balance as well. If you take this game too seriously, then you'll get pissed off and quti playing. If you don't take it too seriously you'll laugh about a lot of these things.

As far as slams go, I only use them now for grav slamming, or a "take somebody with me when I die" weapon. I use it purely for the satchel now. So 3 aren't to much imo if the map isn't covered with them.

IMO you shouldn't respawn with 2 grenades and RPG should produce less splashdamage but make it a sure kill when hitting the enemy, doesn't matter if he has 100/200. And cballs should kill their owner. FF should be activated on any TDM match and respawning with a SMG that you can easily collect smg1_nades is shitty for me.

The spirit of HL1 is the longjump and taucannon, you don't respawn with any of both.

I really like to have many ways of making instant kills but not to be killed by an unnamed from the back with a cball/lost grenade/prop/RPG/etc.

And believe it or not, Internet sux for catching cballs/grenades of advanced players with GravGun.

PS: I don't care if Valve isn't going to fix it if we go on a strike, because I know they are not going to do it either if we continue playing.

Did you notice that 80-90% of players and servers are co-op or lowgrav killbox? They don't care about us, and believe me, I'm not going to be an stupid playing an abandoned game that is broken and they don't have any plans at all in fixing it because they know they won't receive any financial profit.

As DougV said, "here in Valve we laugh at PC gaming is dying because we never been in better shape than now".

Sorry, I don't like wasting my time in a game that is not considered serious. But I don't mind reading and supporting this forums, I know this community is a good one and I don't mind helping save-hl2dm.com

I think the main-reason for your disappointness is the long distance to the USA or other countries with a lot of good hl2dm-players.
Plus the internet in Argentina is really slow aswell- that means that you aren't able to enjoy the full power of fun at hl2dm imo for a longer time !

i believe Argentina has bad net even to other SA countries, which sucks if it is true.

In tsgk i die by the unnamed random smg spray more then any other weapon. But i truck on, yes the pub land is pretty much a waste land by i pay my 25 bucks a month so i can have a nice place to play, and maybe bring back some thunder that is hl2dm. I wish some of you LSD guys would maybe find a NA team to play with the high ping i would think that would be better then all. But you would lose out with your friends you have played with for so long.

Only got to play 1 match against you guys, and it was fun. I am sure we got a few kills caused by lag alone and that sucks. I wish we had a middle ground as in a Mexican server to use where both would get 70-80 ping but this doesn't seem like it will happen.

strike is a bad idea, we need to bring ppl into the game, it will be updated but like zeta it will be a polish not fix everything because you don't like one thing or another.

hl2dm was the first ever online multi-player game I've owned and yes I may get sick of it at times but because it's a different playing experience each time I continue to play and not uninstall it or sell my steam account. Bugs be bugs and hopefully in the near future if enough ppl complain they will fix the game's flaws. Remember bugs affect all players so don't get frustrated if one bites you!

I really don't find many other games interesting atm I've tried to play games like hellgate london but they bore the sh*t outta me :/ Yet hl2dm manages to not suck completely and remains replayable.

And the g-gun is the bestest/only defense to orbs other than grabbing your tail and running. W/ nuff practice your deflecting/catching skills will come natural ;p

Remember as ppl here have said, play this game for fun and try to have fun playing and don't let the flaws and imperfections get to you.

only servers I could play were the only one in my country (with 50 ping) and 2 brasilians (with 80 ping)
now I have 80-90 in the server of my country, 100 until even 150 on brasilian servers...
Can't play on other places, it seriously sucks.
But IMO, s0iz is just over reacting
lemme ask him a question in public, would you mind telling us how many times you unninstalled this game, same as css? there we have the answer
hopefully some day I'll be able to play with a better ping on euro/USA servers, or maybe move to another place due to possible future studies/work and be able to enjoy a whole other dm world ;P

Yeah tons of times. But that was last year, and tell me how active I had been this year, lol. I been travelling a lot and this Sunday I'm leaving to Mendoza (Los Andes ) for a week. Plus I am studying and doing some other activities.

I got really tired of this game as I said. The few times I played this game was in a local server with 30-40ms and with a few of friends. And it was less than 1 hour and we were just kidding, not playing serious.

And yes, my location is a big factor of my anger. I hate not being able to play in the States with a decent latency. Argentina's ISP routing definitively sucks, first we go all around Europe and then to NA. And if I want to play in Brazil I must go all over Europe, then NA and then I came down to Brazil resulting in a 400ms latency. Same for Chile.

God bless TELECOM.

Fearsome* wrote:

s0iz wrote:Why do you respawn with 2 handgrenades?
Why do Combine Balls do not kill their owner?

Oh me I can answer this one, I have tried in HL1 to code a projectile which can hurt its owner and its very hard to do right with the tools given. Even after we thought we had it right sometimes it would just glitch out and explode in your face. Basically in hl2dm you would probably see owners getting vaporized when they shot the ball. And then you would be even more mad.

As for those other games you listed. Haha HL2DM Source? Your kidding right thats buggier and crappier then this one. HLDM is the cleanest of them but you are bound to die from your own tau cannon due to bugs too and don't get me started on the various other nukes. You probably don't play those games as much or at the level you do here cause there is plenty of crap with them too. Most of your problems are just the reality of valves client side prediction and you got all that same exact crap in all the other games you listed. Shotgun random damage as well.

In hl2ctf, you can die from your own orbs. I've never had a problem with them.

Our point is the game is not broken rather you just have a different opinion of how it should work. I played HLDM competitively and I can tell you that that game was hell on spawners only having a pistol and crowbar against a guy who can move 100x as fast as you and sweep the entire map in 5 seconds to spawn kill you again. Like I said I don't think you played that game competitively if you did when good people still played it you would see why giving spawners a bunch of weapons to start is much better on them then in hldm. And all of those games have shotguns with most likely the exact same code as this one they are all valve games with the same crappy netcode and same random generators for bullet spread.

As far as FF in leagues it was voted on and turned down we can vote again if you like, I was actually for FF on but the vast majority of players in the Americas do not want it. As for spam its controlled by the map and some weapons have to be more powerful then others that gives the game a tactical level when people want to go get a certain weapon. If some guy shoots you in the back so what thats the nature of any dm game and will happen to you plenty in the ones you listed too.

Fearsome* wrote:

s0iz wrote:Why do you respawn with 2 handgrenades?
Why do Combine Balls do not kill their owner?

HLDM is the cleanest of them but you are bound to die from your own tau cannon due to bugs too

thats not a bug the tau cannon bounces off walls if at the right angle and if its too thick so if you are too close it hits you.
It is possible to code the ball killing thee owner just lookat dmpro or HL2CTF.

And reflective surfaces.


Good times