European war- nations cup

Just to inform some that do not know CU is starting up the nations cup so sign up and represent your country.
http://www.clans-united.net/index.php?s ... 83&lang=dk

Go You-k

GLHF, if any nations have an awesome close match with good frags, please link us the demo and we will add it to our archives.

Uh, last time, USA wasn't allowed to compete in this. What's different?

I think they voted the same again. Their league, their choice.

i dont get this post

K in in long sense Clans united is having a national team cup. Where players join national squads and compete to prove which nation is the best at hl2dm. For example I would be part of team UK also know as you-k. Look at the link.

Also on having Americans playing or none european playing in the nation cup seemed unpractical I for one wanted you guys to play but looking at past games I have had and other in europe it would be very hard even some russian clans have trouble arranging wars with players from the uk and usually there allways a problem. Plus the time diffrence.

But I got a good idea . At the end you guys select the best players you can for a american team and they could play the winners of the European nations cup. Im sure many would like to see that. Should not be a problems to arrange that one match.

interesting !
Please try to record sctv demos and link us to them, I wanna seeeee !

bahlk wrote:i dont get this post

still dont get it

its just kinda insulting and stupid imo to post this

since CU and the U both know the us wants to compete

so ty for the heads up on something we cant compete in?

bahlk wrote:

bahlk wrote:i dont get this post

still dont get it

its just kinda insulting and stupid imo to post this

since CU and the U both know the us wants to compete

so ty for the heads up on something we cant compete in?

erm well not re-ally m8 seeing as not evree1 here is from the americas i guess

It's simply a cup where the European players already in CU rearrange to play by nation instead of their regular teams.

I don't really see how it is insulting to inform the whole community about that.

Any spots on the Irish team

EDIT: There does not seem to be any

lead wrote:

bahlk wrote:

bahlk wrote:i dont get this post

still dont get it

its just kinda insulting and stupid imo to post this

since CU and the U both know the us wants to compete

so ty for the heads up on something we cant compete in?

erm well not re-ally m8 seeing as not evree1 here is from the americas i guess

Exactly what I was thinking... HL2DMU is global, not just American. So just because this topic doesn't involve you (bahlk) doesn't make it pointless.

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ahhaha ya i was a little rude

i like the topic name better now

just that 90% of ppl on the u is us

Nutri-Grain wrote:i doubt we'd be able to get "the best" american or canadian or non-euro players all on one team for one match...we've already had trouble with the difficult Americans during the USA vs Canada league...tsk tsk.

btw, are we ever going to do that Canada vs USA tourny or did it just die?

Nope, stupid shit like that dies quickly.

well i get about 60-70 in some euro servers like es and demons so if any north eastern / north canadians want to put a team together lets me knowz

It should really be renamed the Euro-Cup to represent what is is.
In HLDM the game that this was modeled after and pretty much the whole CU system Canada and USA did compete in this event. East Coast US and Canadian players ping better to some Euro servers then many italians or russiansn yet they are allowed to play.

Fearsome* wrote:It should really be renamed the Euro-Cup to represent what is is.

You could as well argue that it should be renamed the European Clans-United and North American Cyberathlete Amateur League .

Cynips wrote:

Fearsome* wrote:It should really be renamed the Euro-Cup to represent what is is.

You could as well argue that it should be renamed the European Clans-United and North American Cyberathlete Amateur League .

exactly cynips love to see the winners of each fight each other you could sell tickets 4 that 1

bahlk wrote:

bahlk wrote:i dont get this post

still dont get it
its just kinda insulting and stupid imo to post this
since CU and the U both know the us wants to compete
so ty for the heads up on something we cant compete in?

This site is about HL2DM. This post is about Hl2DM.

Even tho it's sad to be unable to compete it might interest alot of people to see how matches are played in europe, watching demos or even watching live STV.

Believe me, you don't wanna play in a league that has time difference, high ping and friendly fire all at once

Not this again

Cynips wrote:

Fearsome* wrote:It should really be renamed the Euro-Cup to represent what is is.

You could as well argue that it should be renamed the European Clans-United and North American Cyberathlete Amateur League .

No cause CU and CAL allow clans to compete no matter where they are from so long as they abide by the rules where the nations cup does not. This is more like the protectionist cup.

Fearsome* wrote:

Cynips wrote:

Fearsome* wrote:It should really be renamed the Euro-Cup to represent what is is.

You could as well argue that it should be renamed the European Clans-United and North American Cyberathlete Amateur League .

No cause CU and CAL allow clans to compete no matter where they are from so long as they abide by the rules where the nations cup does not. This is more like the protectionist cup.

That sounds very much like an ad hoc argument. Looking at the real world, there's not a single non-European clan in CU (I'm not informed enough about CAL to make any such statements).

keefy wrote:Not this again

US has yet to hold a region based cup of any kinda. And always say oh I wish we could do that..

That was how the draft got started. Because no one in US could get a team together. So we just went with show up and play style.

In any case it is what it is, their league their rules. They can call it the "every country in the world participates in this league" league and then only allow two countries if they want.

As long as they don't call it "Battle for the Universe Cup", because pb would have to be able to play or it wouldn't count.

CAL has had European teams compete in it as well as south american. And in teams players have come from nearly every continent. Regardless there is a huge difference between teams choosing not to play in a league and being forcefully thrown out of a league simply because in reality teams do not want to compete with them. But even if it really is because of time or ping differences the rules of the league can be crafted in such a way to eliminate that problem. CAL has plenty of teams over 4 timezones we just set a default time and date to solve issues where teams simply cannot compromise. We also set a default location for servers. Anyone willing to come and play under those rules is welcome to.

Fearsome* wrote:CAL has had European teams compete in it as well as south american. And in teams players have come from nearly every continent. Regardless there is a huge difference between teams choosing not to play in a league and being forcefully thrown out of a league simply because in reality teams do not want to compete with them. But even if it really is because of time or ping differences the rules of the league can be crafted in such a way to eliminate that problem. CAL has plenty of teams over 4 timezones we just set a default time and date to solve issues where teams simply cannot compromise. We also set a default location for servers. Anyone willing to come and play under those rules is welcome to.

well said m8

They should have their own version of the CAP for the league, the better teams have to subsidize the worse teams with players to go along with true EU spirit. Maybe the English teams will cry about this too and get an exception again

I am adminning the Clans United Nations Cup and it was not my decision to not allow USA to play in it. Some of you might have actually seen my post in the 'League Talk' board asking if any of you were interesting in participating in the CU Nations Cup. I then made a post in the CU private admin forums and I was outvoted on letting Americans play.

Fearsome* wrote:CU and CAL allow clans to compete no matter where they are from so long as they abide by the rules where the nations cup does not.

That's actually not true CU wouldn't allow Americans to play in the regular league it's just they don't state that anywhere because it makes them look bad. Some admins disagree with not allowing Americans play including me and I'm sure SND, but I imagine if any American team applied they would be rejected. :/

Just pretend to be turkish

tlc wrote:They should have their own version of the CAP for the league, the better teams have to subsidize the worse teams with players to go along with true EU spirit. Maybe the English teams will cry about this too and get an exception again

Yay flame war, just what dm needs..

Yeah like trash said I did not have a problem with it you guys playing. But I fully understand why it would not work if it was allowed thing is CU is not like CAL it pretty much all supported by the players them selfs most of CU admins give up allot of time including me to ensure it runs smoothly which is a god damn hard thing to do btw and we will be running the 3v3 2v2 and also 1v1 daily cups so we got allot on our plate and don't know how we could resolve disputes across the pond with time we have.

We try and get all games played and in NC we would love to have u guys compete but we got think about players that play in our league allready have and possible probelms we would get. One problem is ping you may be able to play against guys in the uk or as far as germany but you will have a big problem playing against russian plays ect. Then time diffrence now if you ever played in cu you would know how much of a problem it can be to agree a date and time to play and df occur because of it some of us just don't have the time to wait for US player to come back from work by that time we migt need to go to bed some of us work really early.

Now I did put out a challage for u guys to get a team together to play against the winner of the european nations cup which would be just great you could even start up your own NC cup down your end to find the best team.

CAL is run by the community too all the admin work is done by us the only difference is we also have superiors to report to above us. The US and Canada are each on their own bigger then the entire European continent. CAL has all the same issues to deal with, every league does.

Ive played in leagues where half is USA and half is Europe and its a pain in the ass one team either has to stay up late or the other has to get up early, midweek is a nogo for this becasue of school and work so it leaves weekends.

Come on keefy. You thought 9pm was late?

Fearsom you made my point we don't have a organsation like CAL behind us to surport us and we are not a big league with a good stronge structure in place. What makes u think we will be able to handle dealing with our local players and US.
plus
im right about the time gap your 6 hrs behind to the uk 7 hours to the middle of europe and 8 with other countries that play in our league if im right (may be wrong this is off the top of my head).

If u guys still don't like it then why don't you start your own NC where not stopping you we actually incourage it.

As i said i would really like to see nc running at your end and ours and get winners of them to play each other at the end but thats up to you.

SND wrote:If u guys still don't like it then why don't you start your own NC where not stopping you we actually incourage it.

As i said i would really like to see nc running at your end and ours and get winners of them to play each other at the end but thats up to you.

it failed every time. Maybe we could hold a draft and have the winner play you guys.... but it'd be soo earlier by time we finish for us and you guys.

Yeah, people never complete their ideas. : (

well emm let me think.

well what you could do is run the drafts for 6 or 7 weeks leading up to the finals at your end while over here we get the cup rounds played then you just select 3-6 players to represent your continent to play against the winner in the euro cup. If you can get a really good team together then we can get a epic 3v3 game played.

Most likely it would be like how CU game structure but we would put ff off for you guys since you might have the communcation if your players don't know each other well. As well it would be like this play one game on US server home team play combine to make up for the lag and one game on a euro server with home team combine. You can select any dm map for homemap but it has to be suitable for 3v3. winner decided by CU point system.

let me know if your up for the challenge.

might work, we could have a vent have 6 people show at a given time and play a ffa. Top 3 play CU's winner. Only way i can see something like this happening is, if it is completely based on who shows up at that given time. And based on skill not picks or votes

im sure you guys can find 3 or more good players out of the pool of good players you guys have. Let me know if you can do it.