Aim Arena - HL2DMU Forum Archive

The Argumentalizer

2008-12-21 11:25:15

I have never been so humiliated as on this map. Maybe i don't get it. What do you think about Aim Arena?

Is it vital?
Is it a miserable abortion of a map?
Is it awesome?
Should i get decent on it?

I have a thing for this map.
I hate it.
WHY?

BI and Bahlk?

ownege

2008-12-21 11:53:27

Yes, get better at it hit me up for 1v1's add meh http://steamcommunity.com/id/ni66a1337

Seagull

2008-12-21 12:29:58

it's a joke of a 1v1 map built by an old vdus member to practice mag aim, nothing more

Ko-Tao

2008-12-21 15:51:35

Take it for what it is: The games most refined killbox.

{EE}chEmicalbuRn

2008-12-21 18:25:48

one of my favorite maps to play on when you just wanna fool around and shoot. i strongly believe this map should not be used in league match play tho.

badinfluence

2008-12-21 19:01:57

The Argumentalizer wrote:I have never been so humiliated as on this map. Maybe i don't get it. What do you think about Aim Arena?

Is it vital?
Is it a miserable abortion of a map?
Is it awesome?
Should i get decent on it?

I have a thing for this map.
I hate it.
WHY?

BI and Bahlk?

Honestly, I think this map contains the most combat with some strategy involved. I learned how to play HL2DM on this map. You get to learn weapon combos and how to play. It's not a necessity to get good on it, but if you do, you'll know how to use what weapons in certain situations.

I'm going to be honest with you. I think you hate it because you haven't learned the weapons too well yet. If you keep playing aim, you'll learn those weapons better than if you kept playing lockdown.

tlc

2008-12-21 19:23:12

it is a practice map

the fact that it is used in competitive play is a fucking joke

might as well use ptrain in cal 1v1 and see how far people can jump, since both maps only test how good one is at one aspect of the game

Nutri-Grain

2008-12-21 19:59:08

Blasphemy

2008-12-21 20:03:48

all i do is spam orbs on lockdown and aim arena is one of my fav maps.

Ko-Tao

2008-12-21 20:09:00

Keep in mind, vdus made the map, and many of them loved 1v1s there.

Agree about ld anyway, neither it nor aim are serious competitive maps. Aim was made for ffa mag/movement practice, and ld is a random chunk of hl2 single player with dm entities added. Hardly tournament level maps, but we had a serious lack of solid maps for a long time, so we used what was available, and what players had come to enjoy. Im all for moving on now that we have a variety of competition-build maps available, but im pretty sure im in the minority here, unfortunately.

Nutri-Grain

2008-12-21 20:12:33

Zman42

2008-12-21 21:25:05

Aim is a pile of shit, everyone always wants to 1v1 there and i cant understand why. who decided to ever allow this map in cal, or better yet who of you morons voted for it this season?? like tlc said you might as well play ptrain or one of the other practice maps, dm_birdsnbarrels anyone? Oh, and im not just saying i hate it because anyone can beat me there, people can beat me there because it takes close to no skill to win on aim, just a decent mag and control of the rpg.
if i could id remove it from cal but i cant.

tlc

2008-12-21 22:08:27

Nutri-Grain wrote:Notice how all the sw and vdus members are calling it a joke, and yet lockdown 4v4 is not a crapfest at all!

If you have a good mag, and you know how to use the weapons properly, you will own aim arena. If you're too reliant on spam and narrow hallways where you can just ball the shit out of people; you'll lose on this map. Listen to tlc guys, the number one ball whore in hl2dm. Listen to him cut up a map that isn't focused around spam...hmmm.

You either love aim arena, or you hate it.

The fact that it is used in league play or not isn't a big deal. It's in there because enough people like it; just like all the other maps.

Oh yeah, ptrain is just like aim arena...fucking idiot. You think it's only focused around one aspect, but you're way off. You can win that map in many different ways. You can use your aim, you can use your spam (there are 6 smg nades you know...and I think on reloaded there are 7), and you can whore the rpg if you know how to avoid grenades and mags. Hell, sometimes I go only grav nades on that map just cause it works too.

If you aren't one of the many spam conformists roaming the narrow hallways of lockdown 24/7, then you will enjoy aim arena. Everyone else will call it shit.

notice how the guy accused of cheating loves aim arena

see i can do it too

and yeah lol @ purporting that the team who made the map has some sort of agenda against it when in fact they would know better than anyone what the map was and was not intended for

i will throw in a 'fucking idiot' in here just for good measure too since tossing swear words back and forth is the only way to have discussions with people like you

Uncle Rico

2008-12-21 22:32:12

LAN party?

Potato

2008-12-21 22:41:10

i hate aim arena

L2k

2008-12-21 23:17:28

Zman42 wrote:people can beat me there because it takes close to no skill to win on aim, just a decent mag and control of the rpg.

And you think that is not skill? Believe me if someone can beat you there, they definitely have skill, you just may have less skill on that particular map. Every map takes skill and knowledge of the map to win on it and with aim there is definitely a certain way to play it if you want to win on it.

bahlk

2008-12-21 23:23:19

there is an answer to almost every situation in that map that makes it "gay" you just have to execute it

while that one situation that is hard to adapt to that provides 90% of the game play is a stupid stand off w/ mag across the map and the person w/ the best mag usually wins those scenarios, so naturally u have to avoid that situation as best u can.

Zman42

2008-12-21 23:23:47

L2k wrote:
Zman42 wrote:people can beat me there because it takes close to no skill to win on aim, just a decent mag and control of the rpg.
And you think that is not skill? Believe me if someone can beat you there, they definitely have skill, you just may have less skill on that particular map. Every map takes skill and knowledge of the map to win on it and with aim there is definitely a certain way to play it if you want to win on it.

Oh agreed, I said close to no skill. mag aim/rpg control and you pretty much dont have to worry about much else.

The Argumentalizer

2008-12-21 23:29:50

Is it possible to strafe from the upper end edge to the little up pad or is it too far?
Or do you have to double jump to the rpg or single jump from the crosswalk?

keefy

2008-12-21 23:35:01

I suck at mag so i hate that map.
You need to dominate the top which is where the RPG and mag are so you never need to drop down to get more supplies.

EnnViPi

2008-12-22 01:22:20

you can use frag or spam for take the rpg

me i like this map because i am good in physjumping an in bunny
you can bunny for go in middle high
and they are good tactics with crossbow

Paradox

2008-12-22 02:11:16

I personally dont like the map and it is one of the reasons I dont compete in the 1v1 division. My dislike of it stems mainly because I am not good at the map, plain and simple. Thats not the map's fault, that is my lack of skill. However I disagree that its only good mag aim alone that wins that map, but it is a very big factor. Other things that I see a player needs to have to win that map are: good grav nading, and smg nading both take a good timing and nade placement, crossbow skill, jump timing to reach the charger and the rpg, and air control to reach the rpg and other platforms besides the fact that its an evasion technique and sometimes an attack technique with the lifts.

Just watch some of Onty's videos to see some of the things that can be accomplished on that map.

Whether it was intended for or should be a competative map I can't say, but it does require more than just good mag skill to win that map.

Sacrifist

2008-12-23 00:43:24

I think it's one of hl2dm's best maps. I even enjoyed 3 v 3's on it more then any other dm map. Its just a fun map to play. It forces players to act fast and use their instincts.

Ko-Tao

2008-12-23 02:24:02

Id say that its hl2dms best killbox, but best map, no.

Sacrifist

2008-12-23 05:32:43

Ko-Tao wrote:Id say that its hl2dms best killbox, but best map, no.

for 1 v 1 or 2 v 2, Id say it is the best map. 3 v 3 I prefer Lost Village (what is sad is that dm_lostvillage could be even better) and 4 v 4 I would say Caverns.

Deathwish

2008-12-23 06:24:07

mininade jump mininade jump mininade jump

The Argumentalizer

2008-12-23 07:05:14

Sacrifist wrote:I think it's one of hl2dm's best maps. I even enjoyed 3 v 3's on it more then any other dm map. Its just a fun map to play. It forces players to act fast and use their instincts.

Well, you like Insidiolab or whatever, so...

Biohazard is the best 2 v 2 map and Lost Arena is the 1 v 1

badinfluence

2008-12-23 20:59:37

Don't turn this into a flame thread.

Sacrifist

2008-12-23 22:35:35

badinfluence wrote:Don't turn this into a flame thread.

Im being flamed by my own clanmate...lol
Bio and Lost Arena are fine maps for 1 v 1 and 2 v 2. They are not Aim Arena though.

Nutri-Grain

2008-12-24 00:19:50

Ko-Tao

2008-12-24 00:26:24

As to the reason i put aim in the 1v1 div mapcycle and playoffs in the first place- its hugely popular, and has in fact been the most popular (most often chosen) 1v1 map in all 4 seasons.

Note that it also beat out almost every other map in the season 5 1v1 map poll.

So, hate it though some may (or prefer it replaced by something less linear, as i would), its not likely to be going anywhere anytime soon.

Trompe-la-Mort

2008-12-24 00:28:32

I'm bad at that map, but I like it.

Zman42

2008-12-24 02:48:43

Sacrifist wrote:I think it's one of hl2dm's best maps. I even enjoyed 3 v 3's on it more then any other dm map. Its just a fun map to play. It forces players to act fast and use their instincts.

were you high when you wrote this? 3v3 on aim arena?

tlc

2008-12-24 04:20:59

Nutri-Grain wrote:

it's like i'm really peering behind the desk of your typical wrw member

guys please save me from the big bad internet tough guy

Uncle Rico

2008-12-24 04:35:29

LAN party?

badinfluence

2008-12-24 05:04:03

Zman42 wrote:
Sacrifist wrote:I think it's one of hl2dm's best maps. I even enjoyed 3 v 3's on it more then any other dm map. Its just a fun map to play. It forces players to act fast and use their instincts.
were you high when you wrote this? 3v3 on aim arena?

No, aim arena was always picked for 3v3 on aim arena in ILDM.

Zman42

2008-12-24 05:06:53

badinfluence wrote:
Zman42 wrote:
Sacrifist wrote:I think it's one of hl2dm's best maps. I even enjoyed 3 v 3's on it more then any other dm map. Its just a fun map to play. It forces players to act fast and use their instincts.
were you high when you wrote this? 3v3 on aim arena?
No, aim arena was always picked for 3v3 on aim arena in ILDM.

apart from the oddness of that sentence, were the admins high when they decided that?

badinfluence

2008-12-24 05:15:59

The league wasn't set up like anything that was ever played. Everyone liked it a lot. It was 3v3. Pick a map for 20 minutes each, then switch. The frags were added up. Striker, Punk, and I always picked aim arena. We always dominated. I think we were 2nd before it died out.

<kyle>

2008-12-24 06:07:33

tlc wrote:
Nutri-Grain wrote:
it's like i'm really peering behind the desk of your typical wrw member

guys please save me from the big bad internet tough guy

lol grain is an EE member not a WRW member :/
and i think your pictures you make are cute.

Uncle Rico

2008-12-24 06:14:00

Ya, still, LAN party?

Nutri-Grain

2008-12-24 06:20:56

MORPHIUS

2008-12-24 07:13:12

can i come rico?!?!
i wanna help!

Uncle Rico

2008-12-24 07:23:29

We are gonna try to set up an EE party this summer, so, ya.

ninojman

2008-12-24 08:11:45

I wish more maps had god useful jump pads.

The Argumentalizer

2008-12-24 08:34:55

I just started get up there to the RPG. I never liked Aim, so i never bothered to learn it, which leads right back to not liking it.

I can see where getting good at Aim helps the total game.

Meow!!

2008-12-24 10:25:19

Whenever I'm playing a 1v1 in aim for atleast 5 kills the guy just stays on the top pillar where the rpg is and spams me.
For 1v1s i like playing lost arena. But i do agree its a good practice map.

Blasphemy

2008-12-24 10:40:06

did someone say LAN party?

well don't mind if i do.

CellarDweller

2008-12-24 17:53:07

i'll be damned... i'm not the oldest!

old time no.7

2008-12-24 17:54:03

it has it's pros and cons for me.

pro's
no where to really hide
i enjoy the fast pace
flying through the air is fun
orb cieling richochets are awesome.
not too many narrow confined spaces so fast orb is for me a little easier to defend.

con's
spawn location domination is more than possible from RPG spot.
i loose by a lot on this map. da1 68 to 1 was painful. lostarnea was 22 to 9. to me that seems to make it an unbalanced map. could be i need to train up on it though.

Zman42

2008-12-24 19:29:57

Uncle Rico wrote:Ya, still, LAN party?

why exactly do you keep asking for a LAN party? you want people to think you want tlc to show up so you can beat him up for his internet opinions? /me loses respect for rico

Uncle Rico

2008-12-24 20:00:56

Zman42 wrote:
Uncle Rico wrote:Ya, still, LAN party?
why exactly do you keep asking for a LAN party? you want people to think you want tlc to show up so you can beat him up for his internet opinions? /me loses respect for rico

I'd really like to see a hl2dmu LAN party. Then we can settle all the cheat accusations once and for all. As for beating someone up, I am always curious to see if internet opinions hold up to real world opinions. When I say something here, I'm just as willing to say it in rl. Whether or not that's true for others here I don't know. But no, I'm not planning on beating someone down, I'm not the internet tough guy. That's never been my thing and you know that.

Zman42

2008-12-24 20:02:16

Uncle Rico wrote:
Zman42 wrote:
Uncle Rico wrote:Ya, still, LAN party?
why exactly do you keep asking for a LAN party? you want people to think you want tlc to show up so you can beat him up for his internet opinions? /me loses respect for rico
I'd really like to see a hl2dmu LAN party. Then we can settle all the cheat accusations once and for all. As for beating someone up, I am always curious to see if internet opinions hold up to real world opinions. When I say something here, I'm just as willing to say it in rl. Whether or not that's true for others here I don't know. But no, I'm not planning on beating someone down, I'm not the internet tough guy. That's never been my thing and you know that.

It's just the way you kept saying it sounds a lot like the way Stedy says "ONE VERS ONE?" when you pistol him.

badinfluence

2008-12-24 20:03:43

Uncle Rico wrote:
Zman42 wrote:
Uncle Rico wrote:Ya, still, LAN party?
why exactly do you keep asking for a LAN party? you want people to think you want tlc to show up so you can beat him up for his internet opinions? /me loses respect for rico
I'd really like to see a hl2dmu LAN party. Then we can settle all the cheat accusations once and for all. As for beating someone up, I am always curious to see if internet opinions hold up to real world opinions. When I say something here, I'm just as willing to say it in rl. Whether or not that's true for others here I don't know. But no, I'm not planning on beating someone down, I'm not the internet tough guy. That's never been my thing and you know that.

This never worked last time. I think it'd be cool as fuck though.

Uncle Rico

2008-12-24 20:11:53

Zman42 wrote:It's just the way you kept saying it sounds a lot like the way Stedy says "ONE VERS ONE?" when you pistol him.

It's just that the whole "OMFGZORZ GRAIN HAX" thing has become old and most ppl know it's bullshit, but some ppl keep bringing it up. If things work out, the EE crew will be having a lan party in VA Beach this summer. We'll put up a sign out front "COME SEE GRAIN HAX, ZOMFG" so ppl can find us easier.

badinfluence

2008-12-24 20:33:04

Virginia Beach? Can I come?

bahlk

2008-12-24 20:42:34

ill bring the ganj

The Argumentalizer

2008-12-24 21:03:41

VA Beach? I likey! Count me in.

Nutri-Grain

2008-12-25 03:18:31

badinfluence

2008-12-25 03:19:36

Dood, I live in Ohio. That's less than like a 10 hour drive.

Zman42

2008-12-25 04:08:31

grains in canada, pretty sure it would be quite a drive for him, eh?

Nutri-Grain

2008-12-25 04:18:29

oh yeah eh.

Zman42

2008-12-25 04:21:42

eh.

Nutri-Grain

2008-12-25 04:23:13

2008-12-25 05:04:34

i would go to a lan party if it was a 5 minute walk from my house......MAYBE

Nutri-Grain

2008-12-25 05:42:29

badinfluence

2008-12-25 07:38:04

Fuk dat. I would go just for Grain. : D

Nutri-Grain

2008-12-25 18:27:10

MORPHIUS

2008-12-25 18:57:18

come thru wisconsin grain. we can carpool!!

Sacrifist

2008-12-25 20:48:40

badinfluence wrote:The league wasn't set up like anything that was ever played. Everyone liked it a lot. It was 3v3. Pick a map for 20 minutes each, then switch. The frags were added up. Striker, Punk, and I always picked aim arena. We always dominated. I think we were 2nd before it died out.

Elite always picked it for 3 v 3 as well. Was always a blast to play 3 v 3. It's chaotic and fast paced. It is the definition of what hl2dm is all about.

{EE}chEmicalbuRn

2008-12-25 21:08:47

ya, im working on booking a place, similar to the place dallas used for the 911 party. i chose VA beach because its a somewhat central location for EE. most of us are on the east coast. and well, its VA beach. so far it looks like a 4 day trip. firday and saturday night will be gaming. all night at the place. then the other times will be spent swimming, drinking, what ever, looking at chicks, watching Joey pick them all up. will deffinetly be a trip we will all remember forever.

graffitiknockout

2008-12-25 22:37:19

hl2dm lan party?!

(if this happens count me in)

Nutri-Grain

2008-12-26 05:06:11

ninojman

2008-12-26 06:12:40

i have a place we can use for free in Richmond, VA. Byoc

Nutri-Grain

2008-12-26 22:31:56

Merlyn

2008-12-28 07:45:49

Chicks at a LAN party.. lol.

Paradox

2008-12-28 08:54:56

What if the chicks were playing too?

MORPHIUS

2008-12-28 09:03:52

Merlyn wrote:Chicks at a LAN party.. lol.

nobody wants nerdy gamer chicks at a lan when there are bars FULL of drunk ones down the street.

Drunk Chicks FTW!

Nutri-Grain

2008-12-28 09:35:08

dirk

2008-12-28 11:04:05

I speak on behalf of Va beach when I say we don't want anymore Canadians. We get enough as is every summer here. Fucking tourists jacking up our gas prices

. And yes, you get laid like crazy when you tell chicks here you game. Be sure to tell every one of them you see. Also, check out a bar called the rainbow cactus, you should do well there. On a serious note tho, if you do have it here, DO NOT stay at the strip, way over priced when you can stay 10 mins away for half the $

Va|iums

2008-12-28 11:07:04

MORPHIUS wrote:come thru wisconsin grain. we can carpool!!

Come thru Wisc and I'll contribute a Lexus for the trip!

MORPHIUS

2008-12-28 18:39:35

I can has ur lexus?

Nutri-Grain

2008-12-29 02:23:22

ninojman

2008-12-29 05:32:39

Nutri-Grain wrote:seriously nino? that'd be amazing!

Yes I held one for my old DOD:S clan. 5 are from Richmond so that made it easy. But 2 flew in from Texas and one from PA.
Dirk didn't come because he is a puss. It is right next to a Holiday inn and a T.G.I.Fridays, couple other local bars, Taylors (Small hole in the wall), The Boathouse (outside on the water Bar)