Question for MX518 users

Deathwish

2009-02-04 05:42:00

The only thing putting me off with getting the MX518 is the 125/s report rate, I tried putting it that low in the setpoint settings today and made mouse movements ingame look really choppy and unsmooth compared to 500/s and 1000/s report rates. Is that just the stock report rate for the MX518, does it have an option in the setpoint software to increase the report rate beyond 125/s for the MX518 like the G5 has? Is there another way to increase the report rate of just your mouse with increasing the report rate of all other USB devices?

voxtex

2009-02-04 06:30:20

There are plenty of USB overclocking guides. I have my MX518 running at 500hz.

The process varies depending on your OS.

Deathwish

2009-02-04 06:52:45

I read that changing the report rate on the MX518 you won't see the difference like you do when changing the report rate on your G5, is that true or is that just a load of bs? Also you don't happen to be running vista x64 do you?

The Argumentalizer

2009-02-04 07:22:17

Its 125 reports per second. Do you need more?
The 518 is a legendary mouse or it wouldn't still be produced.
Whether you like it or not is subjective but the 518's worth is not in dispute.
Mouses are reaching the point where any increased specs are going to unnoticeable.

keefy

2009-02-04 07:52:26

There is absolutely no need to overclock the report rate of the MX518, I tried it using USB overclockig tools a couple of years ago and I noticed no differece in its performance so stopped using the overclock. There is an article on esreality.com somewhere that gos into more depth.

Deathwish

2009-02-04 08:54:39

The Argumentalizer wrote:Its 125 reports per second. Do you need more?
The 518 is a legendary mouse or it wouldn't still be produced.
Whether you like it or not is subjective but the 518's worth is not in dispute.
Mouses are reaching the point where any increased specs are going to unnoticeable.
Trust me 125hz makes it look like your game is a lot more choppy/looks like your FPS is a lot lower and unsmooth compared to say 500hz

keefy

2009-02-04 14:35:51

Thats underclocking your existing mouse its bound to do worse, trust me the MX518 woks perfectt at 125Hz, here is that article.
http://www.esreality.com/?a=longpost&id=1265679&page=14

Deathwish

2009-02-04 15:12:46

thx for that I'll check it out

The Argumentalizer

2009-02-04 16:55:37

Deathwish wrote:
The Argumentalizer wrote:Its 125 reports per second. Do you need more?
The 518 is a legendary mouse or it wouldn't still be produced.
Whether you like it or not is subjective but the 518's worth is not in dispute.
Mouses are reaching the point where any increased specs are going to unnoticeable.
Trust me 125hz makes it look like your game is a lot more choppy/looks like your FPS is a lot lower and unsmooth compared to say 500hz
Not.

Deathwish

2009-02-05 06:36:48

The Argumentalizer wrote:
Deathwish wrote:
The Argumentalizer wrote:Its 125 reports per second. Do you need more?
The 518 is a legendary mouse or it wouldn't still be produced.
Whether you like it or not is subjective but the 518's worth is not in dispute.
Mouses are reaching the point where any increased specs are going to unnoticeable.
Trust me 125hz makes it look like your game is a lot more choppy/looks like your FPS is a lot lower and unsmooth compared to say 500hz
Not.
Err yes you can, I have a G5, I Installed the setpoint software just to test it out, changing the default 500hz to 125hz makes the game look like it has low fps and looks like it's skipping frames, I can tell this because my average FPS is pretty much most of the time 300, and you have noticeable skipping at 125hz. But I was reading on the MX518 benchmark and it says you don't notice any skipping even with 125hz and thats why theres no point in overclocking the MX518 to 500hz or even 1000hz.

voxtex

2009-02-05 06:47:41

Deathwish wrote:I read that changing the report rate on the MX518 you won't see the difference like you do when changing the report rate on your G5, is that true or is that just a load of bs? Also you don't happen to be running vista x64 do you?
Yes I run Vista 64 I had to find a workaround for it but it works.

Oh btw it definitely makes a difference and you can measure it using the program linked below. It may not increase maximum response rate (maximum speed mouse can move and still be responsive) but it definitely decreases response time. At 125hz your mouse is sending updates every 8 ms (125 updates a second), so the delay for a mouse movement can be up to 8ms, on average 4ms. With 500hz your mouse is sending 500 updates a second which is every 2ms so the average delay is 1ms.

The article measures something different.

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/39482/mouserate-s.exe

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/39482/Mouse%20Fix.zip

Here's the Vista x64 mouse fix package I put together. Read the .txt file for instructions. It works but your OS muse be in Test mode.

Deathwish

2009-02-05 07:06:29

thanks heaps vox, one question because I'm at school atm, does it overclock every USB port on your computer or just the USB port the mouse is plugged into? I've never really been 100% certain about this but when you change the report rate in setpoint, does it overclock the USB for just the Mouse or is that basically impossible, I've always thought that when done in setpoint it overclocks the report rate for just the USB port which the mouse is connected to (even though I don't install mouse drivers).