I'm flippin out.

provost

2009-02-16 08:56:38

EDIT: yea I must've been drunk as fuck or something.

oh well, the usual.

Sacrifist

2009-02-16 09:20:10

The CGC approves this message. Nothing against anyone that has "team stacked" lately, but what he is saying is pretty spot on. I have nothing against lockdown either, but I still prefer the original over every other revision lol.

The Argumentalizer

2009-02-16 09:20:37

Extremely well put!!

There will be TWO teams and everyone else.
And Draft Night was great for bringing up players where CAL is anathema to it.

Divinity

2009-02-16 09:54:28

Sacrifist wrote:. I have nothing against lockdown either, but I still prefer the original over every other revision lol.

I think the new hall is win.

It's not like flas totally merged w/ $W, 2 of them went to 2 diff clans and 1 of em is in the recruitment office asking any clan/team if they want him.

Some people just don't like to lose or get beaten so badly so they don't play. This game is aging and people are just moving on to other games. Shit don't stay appealing to people for long, they will get bored.

For me I whore this game cuz I simply don't want to get into other games cuz either my pc is too slow for those newer, sexier looking games, or I just don't want to spend the money on those games people are telling me I need to play (tf2, l4d, etc) cuz money's tight and I don't have the time I used to have to get into another game AND I still enjoy playing this game weather it be killboxing kbh style or scrimming in some locked server.

Newer maps are slowly getting into cal. It's good to see caverns and milieu in and others should be considered as well. I agree with conflict, f*ck the authors, revise other maps w/o permission if the author isnt' around who gives a damn and if he says no do it anyway I doubt they play this game to find out and bitch anyway. Oh yeah rotate those cal maps already!

Hope HL3 is in the works :/

ziggo0

2009-02-16 10:08:50

Agreed.

One reason I won't join a clan is because of that.

DEATH-ANGEL

2009-02-16 11:22:13

Well with that whole lostvillage thing, I felt Arm did the best revision, he fixed the fsp issues, and it just all around looked great. I suggest that be put in CAL.

keefy

2009-02-16 11:41:49

Small community smaller league means a handful of teams get the best players and once they keep winning, more want to join so it escalates.
Look at the Scottish premiere league 12 teams and its always between Celtic and Rangers.

SND

2009-02-16 12:06:20

well I can't comment much on CAL thing since it none of my business how you guys run things down your end but I can understand what has been said.

On the draft night I think many took it for granted and never realised how much effort and sacrifice was done by the people like Nino. I ran a draft down my end but soon realised people took the piss and turned up late and just made things difficult I soon gave up on that and now I get people asking me to bring it back and I simply got rl things to do and got little time now. Im sure that how it is for Nino. But one thing where gamers we are lazy by nature so it is no surprise that no one has stepped up to the plate to organise it and one can argue do the community deserve it for one to use up there time for them.

Team stacking well I can see how this can be annoying. But this is evitable u can't really stop it people want to play with the best and is just part of trust for winning easy. As what i could control I try not take players from other clans I kinda feel it kills competitiveness of the game. But mainly pick guys on their personality than their skill which can be taught.

On rates well this game has awful net code the stock settings for client make this even worse. Rate only way to get no choke for some of us and make it playable.

{Rx}Crowbar Ninja DJ Z3R0

2009-02-16 13:08:53

.conflict wrote:Yes "dear community" I am sick of it.

This so-called "we don't want DM to die" thing has lasted long enough and i can't stand it anymore.

After the matter being discussed i officially leave sw as i am agaisnt the recent politics of stacking players so they don't join other clans *cough* ewr

If you truly love this game and what it to expand:

STOP TEAM STACKING, back in the old days every team had their "hero" and it worked geat, now everyone is in vdus / sw/ ewr and it's fucking lame, wich leads me to CAL

CAL and it's map rotation is a complete "fuck you" to this community.
Why on earth is lockdown played during a season AND it's the tiebreaker AND it's the final map.

WHY IS IT STILL AROUND!?!? we have a bunch of highly talented mappers, a bunch of people who'd want to see lockdown die in a hole, but no, we're stuck with it, not twice but possibly 3 times during a single season. wow?

r5, are you kidding me, if it was really all about stopping people from speedcrouching to rpg.
MAKE A CAL RULE ABOUT SPEED CROUCHING.

hot-damn, it's that simple, it's the only map where it's a problem, just make it illegal, bam.

People have been whining for quite a time about people messing up with their rates and all that stuff, nowadays EVERYONE uses broadband connection,
make CAL.cfg force CAL RATES // develop a plugin that forces people on x server to use x rates.

Bam no more whining.

CAL shouldnt be taken too seriously it's only killing this game more and more.

Bring the Draft Nights back, there's much simpler ways than making everyone wait five hundred years in the vent server and it was really THIS ONE THING that keep people interested in playing because you get to know people and play with people you might've never played with/agaisnt.

If the people are really all about saving this game's ass stop dicking around and move things around.

AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, if you guys wants a lostvillage revision, just do it, will you seriously wait until it's creator to comeback from his years of AFKness?

1) you're all illegally download files etc this isnt different
2) no one will get sued

Anyway i'm done, i won't play CAL this season, don't ask me to join a team.

But hey good day and i love you and all

Are you God?

Darkology

2009-02-16 15:47:40

finally a good post in this forum.

and why does this game have a 4v4 division? I mean there's really no strategy in a 4v4 only spam, Oh wait, spamming is only what some people can do. 1v1, 2v2 are good. 3v3 is ok but 4v4....

.conflict wrote:Why on earth is lockdown played during a season AND it's the tiebreaker AND it's the final map.

WHY IS IT STILL AROUND!?!? we have a bunch of highly talented mappers, a bunch of people who'd want to see lockdown die in a hole, but no, we're stuck with it, not twice but possibly 3 times during a single season. wow?

QFT

ld sucks. whatever version it is.

Divinity wrote:Some people just don't like to lose or get beaten so badly so they don't play. This game is aging and people are just moving on to other games. Shit don't stay appealing to people for long, they will get bored.

or they get bored of the same maps played again and again, a fucking 4v4 for this game in CAL and the constant whining like "Omg orb went through u, zomg I headshoted you, mag and shotgun hit and you still didnt die".

The only teams I have played that didnt whine have to be Khaos, ewr, sw (before confused) and elite. GGs guys.

yea draft night was awesome.

old time no.7

2009-02-16 16:03:02

+1

the two draft nights i played were the best experience of playing this game in the 3 years i have played.
it brought both fun and competition into the mix, without sacrificing one for the other.

Jelly Fox

2009-02-16 16:12:02

BEST POST EVER, I agree, this game is going to die a whole lot quicker if it continues to follow the path it's on!

.con I <3 you

keefy wrote:
Look at the Scottish premiere league 12 teams and its always between Celtic and Rangers.

Yup, because they have the money they have the best players, because they have the players they have the glory hunters, because they have the glory hunters they have the money... repeat!

Mon the Pars!

Va|iums

2009-02-16 16:31:12

To quote No Country for Old Men, "You can't stop what's coming". People will always join clans they think they can win with, it's a simple fact of life. I mean hell I almost tried out for ewR until I realised 1. I suck, 2. I would be being a hypocrit and violating my own belief of getting a pair of balls and be willing to lose but help out younger clans develop into stronger ones.

BlackRaven

2009-02-16 17:41:07

DEATH-ANGEL wrote:Well with that whole lostvillage thing, I felt Arm did the best revision, he fixed the fsp issues, and it just all around looked great. I suggest that be put in CAL.

got a dl link?

BlackRaven

2009-02-16 17:51:07

SND wrote:Team stacking well I can see how this can be annoying. But this is evitable u can't really stop it people want to play with the best and is just part of trust for winning easy. As what i could control I try not take players from other clans I kinda feel it kills competitiveness of the game. But mainly pick guys on their personality than their skill which can be taught.

we dont really have this problem in europe so its probably not inevitable. we could easily form a 3v3 team that would probably be unbeatable but people decided to stay around their friends so while there are conflicts in the community, the real big players have been in their clans for a long time. like warloxt, could you imagine him in a clan other than es?

es lost all its important matches this season and theyre still together.

s0iz

2009-02-16 18:31:09

Why I quti CAL so long ago:

- Lag
- Friendlyfire on (the game gets broken when everybody is going after the rpg/ar2/nades/etc)
- Maps

I've been saying this longtime ago, but you had to wait until a guy from $W said it all huh? Lol.

Paradox

2009-02-16 18:34:58

Its a damn shame that when Zman had to quti playing for a while, the rest of FLaS bailed out faster than a horse out of a burning barn. If they had just stuck it out, FLaS would have survived and still be here. Once Confused joined $W I knew FLaS was gone for good because if you still wanted to play this game, why the hell would you quti $W once you were there. They are the quintessential L33T clan, eveyone always dreams of being $W....lol. When Zman came back, there really was no other place for him, except $W because Confused was there.

IMO once clans do get large enough, if they get large enough, they should add more teams instead of putting everyone on one team. At least in that way we do get more teams and more people playing. EE and Khaos made a combined open team for some of our players that are new to competative play so that they can learn how to play CAL.

badinfluence

2009-02-16 18:39:23

s0iz wrote: - Friendlyfire on (the game gets broken when everybody is going after the rpg/ar2/nades/etc)

Friendly fire isn't on?

Jelly Fox

2009-02-16 18:40:46

BlackRaven, another reason why Europe doesn't have this problem is because we are all divided by our native language, I know there is some bilingual clans, but my point is that this is something America doesn't have, so stacking will occur more frequently... especially with all the glory hunters out there.

BlackRaven wrote:
DEATH-ANGEL wrote:Well with that whole lostvillage thing, I felt Arm did the best revision, he fixed the fsp issues, and it just all around looked great. I suggest that be put in CAL.
got a dl link?

say please

{Rx}Crowbar Ninja DJ Z3R0

2009-02-16 18:47:41

I would like to see more balance and distribution between teams as well.

Idea: Make a CAL season one HUGE draft night. Teams randomly put together and have to stay together for a whole season.

Ko-Tao

2009-02-16 19:08:21

Team Stacking: The simple, effective answer is to enforce a roster limit in cal (and in any other leagues that spring up). 8 max for 4v4, 2 max for 2v2 (yes, 2 [two], its not hard to sync times with 1 other player and the vast majority of teams use the same 2 players in every match anyway). This would greatly increase the team count as well; instead of 20 players on a single 2v2 team, youd potentially have 10 teams of varying strengths and styles.

Lockdown: Yes, its time to let it die. A prop-choked, hugely spam-biased converted single player map designed for 16 man pubs hardly has a place in a competitive league, especially considering the numerous competition-designed maps available as alternatives. If its going to remain, for whatever reason, clip and bugfix the original and then just leave it be. The euros manage to tolerate speedcrawling, so im sure we can get used to it as well- random map specific rules are a bad idea. Speaking of which...

Lostvillage: Its time to let this die too. Numerous cheesy camp spots, free wallhax thru nodraw in various locations, props that have a 10 minute respawn timer (lol), and broken secret rooms that make new players ragequit when enemy teams camp in them, or require special rules of their own since they can be used to wait out the entire match. The maps also never going to be fixed- i think at this point its pretty certain that wolf is gone forever, and cal isnt about to start violating mappers copyright, certainly not to keep such a generic map around long after its time has passed.

Aim Arena: Deserves mention as well, for the similar reason as ld- it wasnt designed for 1v1 play, and excessively rewards aim/movement over prediction/tactics. We now have a fine selection of small 1v1 specific maps that test both sets of skills roughly equally, or allow both to be used to strong effect; let the old practice and pub maps rest and put those new competition spec maps to use.

Rates: The cal.cfg already forces rates within specific parameters. Keep in mind, someone on a bad connection is not going to want to be forced to 66/66/30000, and have to play the entire match with 100+ choke. Also, the vast majority of skipping/jittering players we see are likely on wireless, and theres not a damn thing the cal.cfg can do about that.

Draft Night: Sure, this was fun stuff (sometimes) and generally good for the community, but its not like it died because no one ever played. Someone has to run it, time / effort / commitment etc, and apparently theres no one willing to do so atm.

keefy

2009-02-16 19:23:37

Join a fun clan and play for fun which is why we play in the first place it seems many have forgotten the fun element of games.
CAL cfg is a joke and we all know it.

Uncle Rico

2009-02-16 20:09:13

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Hai guys! How's it going?

{EE}chEmicalbuRn

2009-02-16 20:12:32

who gives a fuck about the speed crawl on LD........95% of other maps have the RPG in an easially accessable spot. so who cares if you can get the RPG fast in LD? ppl are gonna speed crawl and whore the RPG......so? like the RPG isnt whored on every other map????

provost

2009-02-16 20:19:29

Uncle Rico wrote:
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Hai guys! How's it going?

HOT!

BlackRaven

2009-02-16 20:35:58

Jelly Fox wrote:BlackRaven, another reason why Europe doesn't have this problem is because we are all divided by our native language, I know there is some bilingual clans, but my point is that this is something America doesn't have, so stacking will occur more frequently... especially with all the glory hunters out there.

think i disagree with you on this one. there are at least as many multi language clans here as single language and a lot of people in these single language clans speak english too. take jerk for example, he left sf and plays in pwnstars now.

Sacrifist

2009-02-16 20:51:27

Va|iums wrote:To quote No Country for Old Men, "You can't stop what's coming". People will always join clans they think they can win with, it's a simple fact of life. I mean hell I almost tried out for ewR until I realised 1. I suck, 2. I would be being a hypocrit and violating my own belief of getting a pair of balls and be willing to lose but help out younger clans develop into stronger ones.

You make us a competitive team when you play and give us another player when we have others that are not able to play. I personally dont mind when good players join say sw or ewr. The reason being, most of them are not as good as the team already assembled and if they get a chance to play that team is more liable to lose. The thing that bothers me is that competition goes down the shitter since there are 8 available guys on a really good team and only 4 can play. I dont care if the same team wins every year, what I care about is lack of overall teams playing. Just take a look at the last week for 2v2 and 4v4 in CAL. Forfeit wins out the wazoo. We have a large roster, but 75% of the time 80% of our roster cant play and it is always a different 80%. This is the first season that we have actually not had many issues with having available players for each match.

2009-02-16 21:10:45

Lockdown is a great map.

*hides*

phantom

2009-02-16 21:19:57

someone post a picture of stonecold with beer

The Argumentalizer

2009-02-16 21:42:01

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Blasphemy

2009-02-16 22:00:22

Paradox wrote:They are the quintessential L33T clan, eveyone always dreams of being cyn^*....lol.

fixed*

maybe i should put my input into this thread, hmmm lets see why do people that are already good don't join lesser clans, maybe because they have already put so much time into the game that its not worth having to carry a team thats still gonna lose most of the time, I know the only reason i joined ewr is because invx and stinky don't play anymore so i had no one to play with, if they where still around i know i wouldn't be in ewr no offense clan m8's.

I don't even really care about CAL, i have already lost and won against all the top clans, without having to wait 8 weeks to play them.

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Poor_Billy

2009-02-16 22:53:47

keefy wrote:Join a fun clan and play for fun which is why we play in the first place it seems many have forgotten the fun element of games.

people picked ewr over all the other top clans because we are the fun clan lol

It's pretty awesome how many people are starting to realize just how shitty lockdown is. The sad thing is, Fearsome* will be making it the finals map again this season.

Jelly Fox

2009-02-16 23:20:18

BlackRaven wrote:
Jelly Fox wrote:BlackRaven, another reason why Europe doesn't have this problem is because we are all divided by our native language, I know there is some bilingual clans, but my point is that this is something America doesn't have, so stacking will occur more frequently... especially with all the glory hunters out there.
think i disagree with you on this one. there are at least as many multi language clans here as single language and a lot of people in these single language clans speak english too. take jerk for example, he left sf and plays in pwnstars now.

You can't disagree with a fact. The fact is: in Europe SOME clans are divided by their Country and/or Language. in America they are not.

Nutri-Grain

2009-02-16 23:39:58

Paradox

2009-02-16 23:48:59

I agree that lockdown isnt the best map....LOL. And yes a lot of people seem to be saying that. The more I play it, the less I like it as a competative map.

So.....

WHY THE FUCK DID YOU GUYS VOTE FOR IT AGAIN????!!!!!!!!!!

Sacrifist

2009-02-17 00:04:39

The rock says....

oh wait a sec.

ziggo0

2009-02-17 00:07:27

Nutri-Grain wrote:Sit back and listen to some quality music to soothe those angry feelings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoZ4V4Ffrdc

Oh, and how long have I been saying that lockdown is a piece of junk? Since I started playing this game. Back then we had to play lockdown because we didn't have a choice. There were only a handful of decent CAL maps, but now with all the new maps coming out (including maps from Abnokious - some of you may not have heard of him, but he has made the map Rapidfire which is amazing. It should be in CAL no doubt, but guess who wanted it changed? Fearsome. He wanted one speed tunnel to the rpg area intsead of two, which would turn a well rounded, and spectacular map into another camp the rpg area map. It's a damn shame. If any of you want to try out rapidfire, I'll post a download link to it. Oh and also, Abnokious has a new map in the works, one that blows my mind) lockdown isn't needed. We as a community have to stand up for our new maps, our new map makers, and ourselves by getting rid of lockdown. Just because you know lockdown better than any other map, that doesn't mean that it should stay in CAL. Give these new maps a chance before you run back to little old Lockdown.

I'll gladly play rapidfire, as well as any other well made maps.

lockdown is like settling for less.

DEATH-ANGEL

2009-02-17 00:34:37

Blasphemy wrote:
Paradox wrote:They are the quintessential L33T clan, eveyone always dreams of being cyn^*....lol.
fixed*

I agree, also one. was a spectacular clan.

Regardless if lockdown is gonna stay in CAL Arm also redid that map, put new textures in it so it looks just as pretty as the lostvillage that he made and clipped the rails and fixed fps issues. As I recall he even left the hallway that Fearsome put in, because he knew someone would bitch.
That's also another option, so you don't get caught on shit when your going down hallways and people with lower end systems don't have the gawd awful fps problem when running poorly implemented hdr.
A lot of the issues with these older maps that you people mention have been fixed and the maps themselves beautified, but we have people bitching about how we need to get the rights to remake the map... I think they would be happy that their map is still implemented in game and that it was perfected, because Ive seen a lot of dumbed down versions too that are disgusting.

Zman42

2009-02-17 00:39:45

Paradox wrote:
WHY THE FUCK DID YOU GUYS VOTE FOR IT AGAIN????!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, shut the fuck up about how bad it is, you fucking voted for it.

tlc

2009-02-17 00:42:40

Blasphemy wrote:
Paradox wrote:They are the quintessential L33T clan, eveyone always dreams of being cyn^*....lol.

1st - Micah "[~$W~] Micahwave" Ernst
2nd - Scott "[~$W~] Mario 64 Master" Rogoff
3rd - Zachariah "[VDuS] drag0?" Kendall
4th - Kenny "[~$W~] Moose On Da Loose" Wells
5th - Brian "[~$W~] motion_k" Kihneman
6th - Dominic "oozy" Anderson
7th - Richard "{WRW}Dirk Diggler" Oliver
8th - Stefan "[~$W~] Rubber Soul" Hock

5-0

Va|iums

2009-02-17 00:43:11

Blasphemy wrote:
Paradox wrote:They are the quintessential L33T clan, eveyone always dreams of being cyn^*....lol.
fixed*

maybe i should put my input into this thread, hmmm lets see why do people that are already good don't join lesser clans, maybe because they have already put so much time into the game that its not worth having to carry a team thats still gonna lose most of the time, I know the only reason i joined ewr is because invx and stinky don't play anymore so i had no one to play with, if they where still around i know i wouldn't be in ewr no offense clan m8's.

I don't even really care about CAL, i have already lost and won against all the top clans, without having to wait 8 weeks to play them.

Well I'm sure ewR wouldnt mind too much if you left. They let you in cause they felt bad all your fwends abandoned you and you were lonely wonewy. Plus your fun in vent, other then that not really sure why they let you in. OH and P.S. I was kind of hungry for a cookie, can anyone spare a brotha??

EDIT jeez I was joking on why they let blas in, already getting people messaging me like wtf?

Va|iums

2009-02-17 00:49:26

tlc wrote:
Blasphemy wrote:
Paradox wrote:They are the quintessential L33T clan, eveyone always dreams of being cyn^*....lol.
1st - Micah "[~$W~] Micahwave" Ernst
2nd - Scott "[~$W~] Mario 64 Master" Rogoff
3rd - Zachariah "[VDuS] drag0?" Kendall
4th - Kenny "[~$W~] Moose On Da Loose" Wells
5th - Brian "[~$W~] motion_k" Kihneman
6th - Dominic "oozy" Anderson
7th - Richard "{WRW}Dirk Diggler" Oliver
8th - Stefan "[~$W~] Rubber Soul" Hock

5-0

Nice try but too bad www.clan-sw.com/matches/cal4v4 isn't still up so ppl can see what happened when you played cyn^. Not to mention the scrims

Uncle Rico

2009-02-17 00:51:37

tlc wrote:
Blasphemy wrote:
Paradox wrote:They are the quintessential L33T clan, eveyone always dreams of being cyn^*....lol.
1st - Micah "[~$W~] Micahwave" Ernst
2nd - Scott "[~$W~] Mario 64 Master" Rogoff
3rd - Zachariah "[VDuS] drag0?" Kendall
4th - Kenny "[~$W~] Moose On Da Loose" Wells
5th - Brian "[~$W~] motion_k" Kihneman
6th - Dominic "oozy" Anderson
7th - Richard "{WRW}Dirk Diggler" Oliver
8th - Stefan "[~$W~] Rubber Soul" Hock

5-0

Hi, welcome to 2009.

Ghost Dog_TSGK

2009-02-17 00:52:08

Reporting for doodie.

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tlc

2009-02-17 01:11:38

Uncle Rico wrote: Hi, welcome to 2009.

hi welcome to the last time cyn was around, which is certainly not 2009

nice try though

Uncle Rico

2009-02-17 01:22:46

tlc wrote:
Uncle Rico wrote: Hi, welcome to 2009.
hi welcome to the last time cyn was around, which is certainly not 2009

nice try though

Uh...maybe I should explain since you don't seem to understand. This is 2009 and I'm not talking about cyn. If FIOS was to take place this year (2009, again, just to make sure we understand what year it is), things would be different.

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Ko-Tao

2009-02-17 01:50:39

Zman42 wrote:
Paradox wrote:
WHY THE FUCK DID YOU GUYS VOTE FOR IT AGAIN????!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously, shut the fuck up about how bad it is, you fucking voted for it.

I didnt. Didnt vote for aim or lv either.

The competitive aspect of the game seriously needs to expand and improve, and that means leaving pubstar sp conversions, glorified killboxes and remixed hldm disasterpieces behind.

Va|iums wrote:Nice try but too bad http://www.clan-sw.com/matches/cal4v4 isn't still up so ppl can see what happened when you played cyn^. Not to mention the scrims

Lan play for $100,000 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> winning in some prizeless / cheat-infested / player adminned online league. And i mean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

DEATH-ANGEL

2009-02-17 02:05:52

Lol I also think if people like Seagull, Sadistical and col.kurtz... People like them could have played in FIOS that 1-8 winning statement would be a bit different too.

And lmao at that pic Rico... Omg I laughed so hard I started crying... hahaha...

Seagull

2009-02-17 02:14:12

lets get real, i dont even play this game anymore

if you're gonna cut lockdown you're also going to have to cut every other shitty map like ko-tao said, which chances are is going to be some maps that people absolutely <3, and no one is gonna want to sacrifice their favorite map (which is probably extremely shitty) just so lockdown isn't around anymore. Chances are, when their favorite map gets cut because it's terrible, someone's gonna be like "omgawd corrupt adminz" which will just be hilarious

SND

2009-02-17 02:16:04

I find it surprising so many have said lockdown is bad. Like down in Europe its a worshiped map all those that speak against her will be hanged. I think it because of all the revision you guys had it just crazy. We have not changed to them because of that horrible vent speed crawl is pretty much part of the game to us now.

DEATH-ANGEL

2009-02-17 02:22:24

Seagull wrote:lets get real, i dont even play this game anymore

Can I have your talent Seagull?

I wouldn't want to see that go to waste haha.

Seagull

2009-02-17 02:25:09

"I find it surprising so many have said lockdown is bad."

there's nothing necessarily BAD about lockdown, people just don't like close-quarters maps like that anymore, the game is slowly shifting to other playstyles I'm guessing so it's getting a bit stale. That said, it's easily the best map in terms of strategy for 1v1/2v2 when I was playing, the amount of potential it has is absolutely ridiculous

2009-02-17 02:32:59

seriously lockdown is a great map, idk why people are all of a sudden flipping a bitch about it. It's been here for quiiiiiiiiiite some time now

L2k

2009-02-17 02:38:53

G wrote:seriously lockdown is a great map, idk why people are all of a sudden flipping a bitch about it. It's been here for quiiiiiiiiiite some time now

Because its been screwed over 10 ways till sunday at this point

Blasphemy

2009-02-17 02:41:00

tlc wrote:
Blasphemy wrote:
Paradox wrote:They are the quintessential L33T clan, eveyone always dreams of being cyn^*....lol.
1st - Micah "[~$W~] Micahwave" Ernst
2nd - Scott "[~$W~] Mario 64 Master" Rogoff
3rd - Zachariah "[VDuS] drag0?" Kendall
4th - Kenny "[~$W~] Moose On Da Loose" Wells
5th - Brian "[~$W~] motion_k" Kihneman
6th - Dominic "oozy" Anderson
7th - Richard "{WRW}Dirk Diggler" Oliver
8th - Stefan "[~$W~] Rubber Soul" Hock

5-0

micha was the only smart one he won the 100k and pretty much disappeared after that, haha look at us arguing about redundant shit while hes off sleeping on his money.

too bad they didn't let Canadians play, i know toad was pretty confident he could have made top 8, him and kurtz could have probably made it.

{EE}chEmicalbuRn

2009-02-17 02:43:21

Seagull wrote:lets get real, i dont even play this game anymore

if you're gonna cut lockdown you're also going to have to cut every other shitty map like ko-tao said, which chances are is going to be some maps that people absolutely <3, and no one is gonna want to sacrifice their favorite map (which is probably extremely shitty) just so lockdown isn't around anymore. Chances are, when their favorite map gets cut because it's terrible, someone's gonna be like "omgawd corrupt adminz" which will just be hilarious

what i think is kinda funny is, on this, a "university" forum, somebody who is listed as a board member is quoted as saying he doesnt even play this game anymore.

not that i blame you btw.

Blasphemy

2009-02-17 02:45:49

Va|iums wrote:
Blasphemy wrote:
Paradox wrote:They are the quintessential L33T clan, eveyone always dreams of being cyn^*....lol.
fixed*

maybe i should put my input into this thread, hmmm lets see why do people that are already good don't join lesser clans, maybe because they have already put so much time into the game that its not worth having to carry a team thats still gonna lose most of the time, I know the only reason i joined ewr is because invx and stinky don't play anymore so i had no one to play with, if they where still around i know i wouldn't be in ewr no offense clan m8's.

I don't even really care about CAL, i have already lost and won against all the top clans, without having to wait 8 weeks to play them.

Well I'm sure ewR wouldnt mind too much if you left. They let you in cause they felt bad all your fwends abandoned you and you were lonely wonewy. Plus your fun in vent, other then that not really sure why they let you in. OH and P.S. I was kind of hungry for a cookie, can anyone spare a brotha??

EDIT jeez I was joking on why they let blas in, already getting people messaging me like wtf?

yea bro don't make me let my mob loose on you.

[KBH]Tazzer

2009-02-17 04:25:27

the cal league is not fun at all when very good (leet)players are on three dif
clans. that is who will win all, its one of the three.

and that equals "BORING" for me its kinda lame.

we should have levels of competition: novice,amateur,semi pro and pro.

as is its gonna be alot of drop outs.

ninojman

2009-02-17 04:28:02

.conflict wrote:Yes "dear community" I am sick of it.

This so-called "we don't want DM to die" thing has lasted long enough and i can't stand it anymore.

After the matter being discussed i officially leave sw as i am agaisnt the recent politics of stacking players so they don't join other clans *cough* ewr

If you truly love this game and what it to expand:

STOP TEAM STACKING, back in the old days every team had their "hero" and it worked geat, now everyone is in vdus / sw/ ewr and it's fucking lame, wich leads me to CAL

CAL and it's map rotation is a complete "fuck you" to this community.
Why on earth is lockdown played during a season AND it's the tiebreaker AND it's the final map.

WHY IS IT STILL AROUND!?!? we have a bunch of highly talented mappers, a bunch of people who'd want to see lockdown die in a hole, but no, we're stuck with it, not twice but possibly 3 times during a single season. wow?

r5, are you kidding me, if it was really all about stopping people from speedcrouching to rpg.
MAKE A CAL RULE ABOUT SPEED CROUCHING.

hot-damn, it's that simple, it's the only map where it's a problem, just make it illegal, bam.

People have been whining for quite a time about people messing up with their rates and all that stuff, nowadays EVERYONE uses broadband connection,
make CAL.cfg force CAL RATES // develop a plugin that forces people on x server to use x rates.

Bam no more whining.

CAL shouldnt be taken too seriously it's only killing this game more and more.

Bring the Draft Nights back, there's much simpler ways than making everyone wait five hundred years in the vent server and it was really THIS ONE THING that keep people interested in playing because you get to know people and play with people you might've never played with/agaisnt.

If the people are really all about saving this game's ass stop dicking around and move things around.

AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, if you guys wants a lostvillage revision, just do it, will you seriously wait until it's creator to comeback from his years of AFKness?

1) you're all illegally download files etc this isnt different
2) no one will get sued

Anyway i'm done, i won't play CAL this season, don't ask me to join a team.

But hey good day and i love you and all

Do like i did and start a brand new team or join a shitty one

DEATH-ANGEL

2009-02-17 04:29:22

[KBH]Tazzer wrote:the cal league is not fun at all when very good (leet)players are on three dif
clans. that is who will win all, its one of the three.

and that equals "BORING" for me its kinda lame.

we should have levels of competition: novice,amateur,semi pro and pro.

as is its gonna be alot of drop outs.

Thats why they set up CAL open and CAL main.
Open is for the players learning how to work as a team and the general basics of gameplay in hl2dm, whilst CAL main is for the 'leet' teams to compete in.

Nutri-Grain

2009-02-17 04:43:22

Ghost Dog_TSGK

2009-02-17 05:01:40

Nutri-Grain wrote:Oh, and the CAL open and main thing was a good idea, until CSS players joined main and none of the admins seemed to do anything about it..lol.

http://forums.caleague.com/showthread.p ... ost6383153

Paradox

2009-02-17 06:22:37

Hmm ya well all of those teams in 4v4 main got moved to open by yours truely and at least 4 of them dropped out. That 4v4 team got moved to open cause they didnt play the and they all dropped and the team got deleted. They were all just main wannabies.

Nutri-Grain

2009-02-17 06:32:35

Blasphemy

2009-02-17 07:19:06

Ghost Dog_TSGK wrote:
Nutri-Grain wrote:Oh, and the CAL open and main thing was a good idea, until CSS players joined main and none of the admins seemed to do anything about it..lol.
http://forums.caleague.com/showthread.p ... ost6383153

i hope he can let me in even though i am an 8 dig.

Ko-Tao

2009-02-17 08:46:45

Id have a look at those links, but my password randomly ceased working over a year ago, and no amount of automated password recoveries or admin help has remedied that to this day.

Oh yes indeed, that means i spent over half a year as cal admin unable to log into the cal forums.

Paradox

2009-02-17 08:49:03

Heh not like there was ever much going on there anyway.

This what a CSS player posted

HL2 2v2 MAIN PICKING UP

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

NO JOKE, IM PICKING UP 2or3 players that HAVE half-life 2 deathmatch to play with me in cal-main

team: Laughing out loud

pm me via forum with e-mail (so i can add u in friends) if you say no to do the calmatch, ill just remove you cause evry1 try to get cal-m hl2 proof...

We won't practice just do matches.

herbalizer

2009-02-17 09:25:08

Well this topic has needed to be addressed for quite some time, and since warzone league is the only alternative to cal for americans why not give it another chance. I have suggested to dallas, the idea of mixed teams since our 1st season was mostly ringers for each team anyways. He wasn't crazy about the idea, but the good thing about it is it's open to suggestions and if theres a majority rule there will be a change. Unlike CAL which goes by the book, I have also suggested 4v4 be changed to 3v3 awhile back which was another reason the warzone was created. It's good to vent once and awhile, especially from the amount of stress this game has caused some people. I don't know how much longer this game is going to last, but we might as well make the best of this while it's still around.

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Ko-Tao

2009-02-17 11:02:16

herbalizer wrote:I don't know how much longer this game is going to last, but we might as well make the best of this while it's still around.

Oooohhhhhhhhh Yeaaahhhhhhhhhhh!~

provost

2009-02-17 11:30:52

s0iz

2009-02-17 17:56:21

badinfluence wrote:
s0iz wrote: - Friendlyfire on (the game gets broken when everybody is going after the rpg/ar2/nades/etc)

Friendly fire isn't on?

Yeah sorry it's off. It should be on.

badinfluence

2009-02-17 17:58:40

I had suggested the idea of making CAL one big draft night a while back. That would be so sick.

Uncle Rico

2009-02-17 18:05:22

Ya, but people aren't gonna play with people they can't get along with. Personally, I'd spend my whole night collecting orbs in order to try to TK teammates that I couldn't stand.

ninojman

2009-02-17 19:12:57

Free Agency for cal!

Sacrifist

2009-02-17 20:05:34

ninojman wrote:Free Agency for cal!

Maybe that is the way to go. Set up pricetags for players based on skill and then do a draft for the season. Teams are only able to pick 4 plus 2 subs and they can not go over the salary cap. Once all the teams have been made, free agents can be picked up. Sounds like a fun league if you ask me. Oh and if there is a conflict of interest on the team, trades can be made, but only before the trade deadline

Once teams are established, each team will choose a map of their liking. Those maps will then be voted on as to what week they are played.

CellarDweller

2009-02-17 20:16:17

fantasy CAL?

The Argumentalizer

2009-02-17 20:17:30

Im available. 50 cent.

Sacrifist

2009-02-17 20:22:10

The Argumentalizer wrote:Im available. 50 cent.

You're at least worth a $1.25 pops.

Poor_Billy

2009-02-17 20:32:55

I hope your wallet is thick.

The Argumentalizer

2009-02-17 21:18:03

Thanks Sac (?)
I draft EC Epiphany. He can't be killed!

DEATH-ANGEL

2009-02-17 21:23:23

I draft col.kurtz. >:D

Divinity

2009-02-17 21:43:44

How about drafting people who still play this game. UMM I draft Seagull GET UR FEATHERY AZZ OUTTA TF2 AND COME FRAG WITH US

Or at least do cal 1v1 and depants mr. billy.

Poor_Billy

2009-02-17 22:03:25

excuse me?

Uncle Rico

2009-02-17 22:05:23

Divinity wrote:How about drafting people who still play this game. UMM I draft Seagull GET UR FEATHERY AZZ OUTTA TF2 AND COME FRAG WITH US Or at least do cal 1v1 and depants mr. billy.

Ya, nobody's been accused of haxing this CAL season. We need more of that. He's pretty much been laughed out of hl2dm.

DEATH-ANGEL

2009-02-17 22:36:36

Oh I wouldn't say col.kurtz doesn't play.

Shit even the one. guys still play, bi0_gauss is just using one. mainly for L4D now unless I or someone else can manage to get him to play hl2dm again.

Va|iums

2009-02-17 22:38:55

DEATH-ANGEL wrote:Oh I wouldn't say col.kurtz doesn't play.
Shit even the one. guys still play, bi0_gauss is just using one. mainly for L4D now unless I or someone else can manage to get him to play hl2dm again.

Sounds like you know something we don't about Kurtz?

<kyle>

2009-02-18 00:20:12

The Argumentalizer wrote: I draft EC Epiphany. He can't be killed!

you dont know how right you are.

Nutri-Grain

2009-02-18 02:44:52

Uncle Rico

2009-02-18 03:01:50

Nutri-Grain wrote:oh, and i'll kill epiphany if you really want.

lol, nah, he CAN'T die, and we have demos. Even orbs bounce away.

phantom

2009-02-18 03:17:54

epiphany > all the spam on lockdown that can possibly be thrown at him

Uncle Rico

2009-02-18 03:23:19

phantom wrote:epiphany > all the spam on lockdown that can possibly be thrown at him

also 5 smg nades, 30 shottie blasts, 6 voxtex nades to the face, repeated bow shots, explosive barrels, orbs....um, ya, you name it, it don't kill him.

Walking Target

2009-02-18 03:25:23

buddha?

Uncle Rico

2009-02-18 03:37:08

Walking Target wrote:buddha?

Something like that, but it works in a server running sv_cheats 0. I've seen this twice now. Once in a pub, now in a Warzone match. PB has demos of him somewhere. EC booted him today, and I think he's been kicked from Warzone now too. I have no idea why he thought he could get away with something as obvious as that.

So if he pops up in your server and won't die, it's not skill, it's voodoo magic.

Ko-Tao

2009-02-18 05:14:04

sv_cheats 0 doesnt cancel an already-active buddha status. There are also ways with the various admin plugins (specifically mani, perhaps others) to use pretty much any cvar while cheats are turned off.

provost

2009-02-18 05:27:06

ninojman wrote:Free Agency for cal!

The Argumentalizer

2009-02-18 06:39:40

At the start of Lockdown, Trompe hit Epiphany with a explosive barrel, came around and Gnaded him in the face coming down the long hall, through the spawn break up above, and hit him with some AR2 and he lived. That is without any armor.
Later, TRompe fires an orb that passes Epiphany as he is carrying a barrel. It bounces off the wall behind him, comes directly at him and bounces right off. Doesn't even set off the barrel.

In EWR's match, an orb bounced off his head and killed his buddy, and then he catches it.
Later, Vox and PB corner him, PB hits him in the face with a explosive barrel, two shotty blasts and he disappears, like leaves the game when he was supposed to be dying.

ECC says he has since been kicked.

Beef

2009-02-18 07:03:42

<3 u con.

Sacrifist

2009-02-18 07:23:38

Trompe-la-Mort

2009-02-18 07:47:38

Ahaha. Hell of a chat log. Halarity filled to me anyway. I thought it was obvious enough when I played him but now that I've heard of erw's match, I want to see that demo.

I can just imagine making excuses about glitches and being the Uks top player when you got poor_billy, rico, and grain backing you against a corner molestering you up down sideways.

ziggo0

2009-02-18 08:20:22

?•?|epiphany: wel, i'm 1 off the most in the Uk nad clans united..

?•?|epiphany: im 1 off the best players in Uk

?•?|epiphany: and stuff

LOL, UK players my god

ownege

2009-02-18 08:37:19

FEAR MY EUROPEAN BRIGHT SKINS RAWR...

Walking Target

2009-02-18 09:53:50

Trompe-la-Mort wrote:when you got poor_billy, rico, and grain backing you against a corner molestering you up down sideways.

Ah ack ug, thanks for giving me nightmares man.

Blasphemy

2009-02-18 10:21:55

Walking Target wrote:
Trompe-la-Mort wrote:when you got poor_billy, rico, and grain backing you against a corner molestering you up down sideways.
Ah ack ug, thanks for giving me nightmares man.

don't you mean wet dreams?

keefy

2009-02-18 10:38:31

I heard of an epiphany in hl2ctf is that the same guy? Is abobo lore?

Sacrifist

2009-02-18 10:40:27

keefy wrote:I heard of an epiphany in hl2ctf is that the same guy?

I honestly dont know. But I do know that he was hacking in that round we played against him lol.

THE END

2009-02-18 11:39:19

Never heard of him...

Shoobie

2009-02-18 13:02:36

THE END wrote:Never heard of him...

I'd say the same, he's not even in Clans-United unless he's aliasing.

Freetux

2009-02-18 14:35:36

Never heard of him either..

herbalizer

2009-02-18 15:19:26

He's a good player whoever he is, we faced him in the killbox league and he was owning us mainly because he was so hard to hit because of the lag. High pingers have a different hitbox compared to regular ping, the netcode is delayed a bit or something weird.

Jelly Fox

2009-02-18 15:23:07

Rafadagaffer wrote:Never heard of him either..

Same

2009-02-18 17:21:14

vdrei moved to europe probably

CellarDweller

2009-02-18 17:24:16

i watched pb's demo last night. its blatant.

not sure its a hack. Ko mentioned some other possibilities. the only question remaining for me is... did epiphany have the rcon/server authorities to manipulate the cheat without the other team members knowledge?

Uncle Rico

2009-02-18 17:36:52

Kyle can fill you in on some of his aliases. I believe he used to use the name War a while back, but he's changed names and accounts several times since then.

koncentrate

2009-02-18 18:02:04

maybe its matt, war, infinity ex raw member and known vac banned some times??

ninojman

2009-02-18 18:04:06

.conflict wrote: CAL and it's map rotation is a complete "fuck you" to this community.
Why on earth is lockdown played during a season AND it's the tiebreaker AND it's the final map.

LoL a Rotational Final map? wtf do you think hl2dm leagues are like any other league? Why would we do things that are time tested?

WHY IS IT STILL AROUND!?!? we have a bunch of highly talented mappers, a bunch of people who'd want to see lockdown die in a hole, but no, we're stuck with it, not twice but possibly 3 times during a single season. wow?

.conflict wrote: r5, are you kidding me, if it was really all about stopping people from speedcrouching to rpg.
MAKE A CAL RULE ABOUT SPEED CROUCHING.

hot-damn, it's that simple, it's the only map where it's a problem, just make it illegal, bam.

WHAT? make an exploit illegal? No wonder you quti sw

People have been whining for quite a time about people messing up with their rates and all that stuff, nowadays EVERYONE uses broadband connection,
make CAL.cfg force CAL RATES // develop a plugin that forces people on x server to use x rates.

again joining the rest of cal is not what fearsome is about. He would rather keep hl2dm bottled up in it's own little world

Bam no more whining.

CAL shouldnt be taken too seriously it's only killing this game more and more.

Bring the Draft Nights back, there's much simpler ways than making everyone wait five hundred years in the vent server and it was really THIS ONE THING that keep people interested in playing because you get to know people and play with people you might've never played with/agaisnt.

If the people are really all about saving this game's ass stop dicking around and move things around.

But hey good day and i love you and all

ya draft night was fun, kinda funny who the few ppl who had to cheat and alias were.

The Draft was fun but, with minimal help it is to much work to copy paste the vent info to 300 ppl to get 32. I had to bust my ass to make sure it got started within a hour.

Jelly Fox

2009-02-18 18:04:55

Uncle Rico wrote:I believe he used to use the name War a while back

Oh that twat, I've heard of him. sure he was banned from CU and also aliased as other players to give them a bad rep.

keefy

2009-02-18 18:42:51

Defo soemthing fishy going on.

{Rx}Crowbar Ninja DJ Z3R0

2009-02-18 18:45:45

CellarDweller wrote:i watched pb's demo last night. its blatant.

not sure its a hack. Ko mentioned some other possibilities. the only question remaining for me is... did epiphany have the rcon/server authorities to manipulate the cheat without the other team members knowledge?

I can has demo plz?

Uncle Rico

2009-02-18 19:24:36

CellarDweller wrote:i watched pb's demo last night. its blatant.

not sure its a hack. Ko mentioned some other possibilities. the only question remaining for me is... did epiphany have the rcon/server authorities to manipulate the cheat without the other team members knowledge?

Well, it definitely wasn't sv_cheats 1 being on, I checked for that 1st. I think the server had mani on it, which does have a command for jacking health up to 50000 iirc, but the console would display that happening unless there's a way to disable it from being displayed in the chat box, and the Warzone config pauses plugins just like the CAL config.
I used to believe there were no such things as "health hax", but some of the CS:S hax I've seen in the past few months have some type of sv_cheats bypass, that allows players to use cheat protected commands, such as buddha, even though the server was set to sv_cheats 0. I've only seen it in action once before and the guy was kicked from the server before I got a chance to get a demo.
You can see that a search for CSS hacks will get you stuff like this:

Code: Select all

-This hack includes an auto-update feature. You will be prompted to download a new update when one becomes available.

-This hack reads from the registry. It does not modify the registry. There is a difference. No misunderstandings this time.

From readme.txt:

Game-Hackers.com CS:S Multihack v3.0 Beta
Created by Vash

Features:

~In-Game~

-SV_Cheats Bypass
-Replicated CVAR Bypass
-SV_Consistency
-SV_Pure Bypass
-Wireframe Wallhack
-No Smoke
-No Flash
-No Gun
-Fullbright
-White Walls
-Speedhack 
-No Look Limits
-Sniper Crosshair
-Bomb Carrier on TAB
-Players on Radar
-Bomb on Radar
-Health on Radar
-Names on Radar
-Visual No Recoil
-Chams Wallhack* - NEW!
-PixelBot* - NEW!

~Security~

-Random Process Name* - NEW!
-Polymorphing* - NEW!
-VAC2 Dumper
-Auto-Updater

How to Use:

~General Usage~

-Extract the Materials folder and Loader.exe to the SAME folder (not the desktop). 
-Run Loader.exe.
-Launch CS:S, press delete to access the in-game menu and arrow keys to navigate.

{Rx}Crowbar Ninja DJ Z3R0 wrote:I can has demo plz?

It's on filefront. I don't have the link now, but ask around. A few people have it now.

dru99ist

2009-02-18 19:58:43

Not a health hax to 5000 hp or whatever. Wouldnt a combine ball still kill him? The demo of our match against EC was hilarious. He suicided and was like WTF? at 61-0. Dont know why he was booted from EC they had to know he was doing it. Went from below .500 one match to 62-2 the next. The week after being accused of haxing?

Uncle Rico

2009-02-18 20:36:47

A combine ball does 1000 damage. Mani will let you go up to 50000 hp with the command, but I think you suicide if you push past that. 50000 hp will last a long time. We used to lock the old EE servers and play like that to see how long you could take it. It took forever to kill someone that was just standing still letting you hit them with everything you had.
I'm thinking what he was using was more along the lines of a CS:S hack and using the sv_cheats bypass to use buddha. Otherwise, server settings changes would have shown up in the chat area.

Va|iums

2009-02-18 20:43:46

Blasphemy wrote:
Walking Target wrote:
Trompe-la-Mort wrote:when you got poor_billy, rico, and grain backing you against a corner molestering you up down sideways.
Ah ack ug, thanks for giving me nightmares man.
don't you mean wet dreams?

Wow. TBH though I wouldn't mind if poor_billy molestered me cause that would be similar to being molested by god.

Ko-Tao

2009-02-18 20:46:15

Editing mani to not display use of commands would be trivial. Thats a large part of the reason all plugins, unloaded or not, were banned in cal.

Also, plugin_pause_all doesnt work.

The Argumentalizer

2009-02-18 23:13:28

Here is the PB Demo: http://files.filefront.com/3v3+warzone+ ... einfo.html

And yes Abobo is LORE.

Va|iums

2009-02-18 23:34:34

Think I was about done watching it after an enemy orb bounces off his body. gg Epiphany, that has to be most retarted attemp at cheating I have EVER witnessed in league play.

Sacrifist

2009-02-19 00:09:24

1:24 AM - E•C|ßlackFlame: hes really good
1:24 AM - |Elite|saçriƒist: lol no

lawl

Ghost Dog_TSGK

2009-02-19 00:25:38

I watched the original demo last night.

Blatant as fuck.

The Argumentalizer

2009-02-19 00:33:57

I bet this is the little NUB right here:

http://hl2dm-consortium.tsgk.com/index. ... =1#aliases

And notice this guy, WAR, EC... almost the same kpd and from ENGLAND (Bring back the Empire!).

http://hl2dm-consortium.tsgk.com/index. ... yer=111884

ninjins

2009-02-19 00:35:54

just wait for the almighty vac ban hammer to impale him.

<kyle>

2009-02-19 00:44:41

The Argumentalizer wrote:I bet this is the little NUB right here:

http://hl2dm-consortium.tsgk.com/index. ... =1#aliases

ya thats probly him alright.his uncle is in raw under the name zipo btw.

0nti

2009-02-19 00:45:48

really well said conflict, I agree with you.

Creature

2009-02-19 00:50:29

ya this "Team Stacking"

isnt fun,if you face SW, VDus,and ewr
its no compitetion,there the only compitetion for each other.

Ghost Dog_TSGK

2009-02-19 00:54:18

I just watched big PB's demo.

You have got to be fucking kidding me.

Zman42

2009-02-19 01:25:01

Creature wrote:ya this "Team Stacking"

isnt fun,if you face SW, VDus,and ewr
its no compitetion,there the only compitetion for each other.

What team am I allowed to be on then? What team is luke allowed to be on? can he stay sw since he has been there forever? what about the vdus guys? can yard guy still be vdus? if not what team can he be on? can grain stay ewr? no? where can he go then?

Super Luigi

2009-02-19 01:44:43

i replace every one and evry thin gun be k

Blasphemy

2009-02-19 02:04:54

Zman42 wrote:
Creature wrote:ya this "Team Stacking"

isnt fun,if you face SW, VDus,and ewr
its no compitetion,there the only compitetion for each other.
What team am I allowed to be on then? What team is luke allowed to be on? can he stay sw since he has been there forever? what about the vdus guys? can yard guy still be vdus? if not what team can he be on? can grain stay ewr? no? where can he go then?

luke should start up digital speed again with bio, vedri, cajun and night.

provost

2009-02-19 02:05:39

TiGGy wrote:just wait for the almighty vac ban hammer to impale him.

Impaled by a hammer holy shit D:

The Argumentalizer

2009-02-19 02:56:28

Dammit, Obama has even invaded the U! FFS!!

Already sick of this asshole.

ziggo0

2009-02-19 03:33:08

Creature wrote:ya this "Team Stacking"

isnt fun,if you face SW, VDus,and ewr
its no compitetion,there the only compitetion for each other.

There is competition, you just have to find the right people who will put up with the BS.

bahlk

2009-02-19 03:34:18

im in it for the lulz

Ko-Tao

2009-02-19 04:19:35

Creature wrote:ya this "Team Stacking"

isnt fun,if you face SW, VDus,and ewr
its no compitetion,there the only compitetion for each other.

The purpose of league-level play is to rise to the level of the best, not somehow drag the best down to your level so you can get wins without having to improve.

That said, im still in favor of much lower roster limits.

[KBH]Tazzer

2009-02-19 05:17:14

i was in a server today and was helping some young lad............
and this skilled player came in and of course started raping everyone (but me lol)
and he obviously knew i was helping the nub but kept raping anyway.......
so i was like shit this is why we can't get new players to hang for long they're like fuck this?!?!?

so i congratulated him on the "GODLIKE" announcement (sigh)
and he said "thankyou" i said haha i was being cynical asshole.

peeps need to remember how it was when they started nah scratch that you'll just say
"it made me better"......well to sum that up you may have/prolly been very competitive
all your life at everything you did but..........some people are just learning to be competitive
and have some fun simultaneously and i dont hear of the 99% of reg players telling nubs
"hey NICESHOT" or "GOOD1"(even if it's not so nice of a shot) anymore and that sucks cause it gives them no reason to "want to be leet or just skilled" but i promise you this, every single game i play with and see new players/nubs and they want help i give it and respect with it i mean hey we were all nubs once.

rant over

Ko-Tao

2009-02-19 08:15:53

Ghost Dog_TSGK wrote:I just watched big PB's demo.

You have got to be fucking kidding me.

Typing "owned" after a kill while using godmode/buddha in a league match... smooth. Sir Ducer would be proud!

Trompe-la-Mort

2009-02-19 08:19:24

Ko-Tao wrote:
Ghost Dog_TSGK wrote:I just watched big PB's demo.

You have got to be fucking kidding me.
Typing "owned" after a kill while using godmode/buddha in a league match... smooth. Sir Ducer would be proud!

It takes a special kinda person.

Internet access, check.

ninjins

2009-02-19 08:45:58

Creature wrote:ya this "Team Stacking"

isnt fun,if you face SW, VDus,and ewr
its no compitetion,there the only compitetion for each other.

Well said. So now all the good players should just join these teams. But then again a big fat LOL at those who say
"well if we take all the good players whos gonna beat us?"

Hypocrisy FOR. THE. WIN! literally!

Uncle Rico

2009-02-19 08:48:12

Ko-Tao wrote:
Ghost Dog_TSGK wrote:I just watched big PB's demo.

You have got to be fucking kidding me.
Typing "owned" after a kill while using godmode/buddha in a league match... smooth. Sir Ducer would be proud!

Well, when you go something like 9-45 in round 1, you really wanna be able make up for it in round 2.

DEATH-ANGEL

2009-02-19 09:00:11

Well Id be humbled from the first round.
I'm naturally a humble player unless I'm just shooting the shit with clannies, but that's just outlandish.
Getting pwned the first round should shut you up for the second round. I hate it even more when they spray your body.
Its just annoying, yes, I did see you headshot me from half the map away, you don't need to run up to me and spray my body after your done. -_-

tlc

2009-03-10 08:43:53

TiGGy wrote:
Creature wrote:ya this "Team Stacking"

isnt fun,if you face SW, VDus,and ewr
its no compitetion,there the only compitetion for each other.

Well said. So now all the good players should just join these teams. But then again a big fat LOL at those who say
"well if we take all the good players whos gonna beat us?"

Hypocrisy FOR. THE. WIN! literally!

Just bumping this for posterity. So where are all the cries of foul after you join an even more stacked team? Seriously, my team has about 5 active people at this point: luke, fearsome, zman, confused, constipator.

How many does wrw have? A lot more than 5; I'll tell you that. It just boggles my mind that there is such a double standard when it comes to criticism of teams on here. I don't get it; are people afraid of Grain's uncontrollable hormones getting expelled in the form of bad words on the internet? After all the shit that Zman got for joining, again, how come there's no flack to be had for you after joining an even more stacked team?

Again, hypocrisy for the big win, eh?

Blasphemy

2009-03-10 09:41:29

tlc wrote:
TiGGy wrote:
Creature wrote:ya this "Team Stacking"

isnt fun,if you face SW, VDus,and ewr
its no compitetion,there the only compitetion for each other.

Well said. So now all the good players should just join these teams. But then again a big fat LOL at those who say
"well if we take all the good players whos gonna beat us?"

Hypocrisy FOR. THE. WIN! literally!
Just bumping this for posterity. So where are all the cries of foul after you join an even more stacked team? Seriously, my team has about 5 active people at this point: luke, fearsome, zman, confused, constipator.

How many does wrw have? A lot more than 5; I'll tell you that. It just boggles my mind that there is such a double standard when it comes to criticism of teams on here. I don't get it; are people afraid of Grain's uncontrollable hormones getting expelled in the form of bad words on the internet? After all the shit that Zman got for joining, again, how come there's no flack to be had for you after joining an even more stacked team?

Again, hypocrisy for the big win, eh?

to be fair nutri, pb, vox and bahlk are prob the only ones that are up there skill wise with you guys.
(not trying to put anyone down)

don't shoot me all at once guys.

Poor_Billy

2009-03-10 14:56:19

tlc wrote:
Just bumping this for posterity. So where are all the cries of foul after you join an even more stacked team? Seriously, my team has about 4 active people at this point: luke, zman, confused, constipator.

How many does ewR have? A lot more than 5; I'll tell you that. It just boggles my mind that there is such a double standard when it comes to criticism of teams on here. I don't get it; are people afraid of Grain's uncontrollable skill getting expelled in the form of rape on the internet? After all the shit that Zman crying about, again, how come there's no flack to be had for you after joining an even more stacked team?

Again, hypocrisy for the big win, eh?

hey man.

Nutri-Grain

2009-03-10 23:40:37

Uncle Rico

2009-03-11 01:54:04

tlc wrote:How many does wrw have? A lot more than 5; I'll tell you that. It just boggles my mind that there is such a double standard when it comes to criticism of teams on here. I don't get it; are people afraid of Grain's uncontrollable hormones getting expelled in the form of bad words on the internet? After all the shit that Zman got for joining, again, how come there's no flack to be had for you after joining an even more stacked team?

Again, hypocrisy for the big win, eh?

We are ewR, get it right.
You started the stacking last season. We can play the same game and get better players because no one wants to play for your washed up team. gg.

graffitiknockout

2009-03-12 06:52:45

http://www.imeem.com/buzzman/music/QJxT ... e-friends/

The Argumentalizer

2009-03-12 07:20:55

8 Man Cage Match!!!!!!
Do it, Bennett!

Spectate?

ninojman

2009-03-12 22:13:51

Link

Blasphemy

2010-06-21 02:53:54

Old Bump

can anyone upload the demo of Epiphany?

kthx

The Argumentalizer

2010-06-21 07:18:53

One cannot upload Epiphany. Epiphany just comes to you out of the blue, sillyass.