Ipod's

Anyone know of any good software that you can use to rip the music off your ipod?
I had to reformat my girlfriends computer, and as most of you probably know, when you try to plug a ipod into a new computer it wants to reformat the ipod before you can put new music on it, so I need to take the music off that she has on her ipod and put it back on her computer.
Any ideas?

Have you tried disabling syncing?

Edit > Preferences > Devices (tab) > Disable automatic syncing

I don't think you can do that. Well you're not supposed to be able.

http://www.scottkellam.com/os-x-softwar ... -computer/

You Should have your library backed up on another drive and reconstitute that first.
Im curious, did you really wipe out the library? And what do you mean reformat your Ipod when you plug it in?
It just synces with the auth. library and the selections checked. It doesnt reformat the Ipod.

Sounds like you want to just add music from another library to a new one, like a transfer, and you will need a true HACK to do it.

try jailbreak.

Fuck iTunes seriously.

Ipod(s)
Annapod:
http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/featpw.php

Shuffle(s)

ShuffleDB:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/shuffle-db

I'm Curious? Why do you hate ITunes, (the app)?
I have over 1000 cds ripped, with correct artwork and never any problems keeping track.
Once you understand sorting, you can link boxsets together, look at your library by artist or album.
Apple Lossless Codec is nice.
The ability to access the store a grab a tune you must have is nice.

I don't get it.
I have used a lot of other apps and this is the most powerful elegant and awesome app out there for large libraries.
Having said that, it only monitors one folder and i hated it before they redid it.

It takes up so much resources.

I hate itunes WITH IPOD because it assumes you are a complete idiot. It's not letting you do anything by yourself and if you try, sorry you can't.


I hated going to parties and hearing a sick tune and i couldnt simply FUCKING ADD IT to my playlist in one click, everything suddenly turned into "MAC, its so simple" to "Fuck you, this isnt 2009 it's 1989" I had to fight iTunes so it wont sync my ipod to his librairy and then it turned out it was the only way to get the song.

I can't listen to songs off my ipod while it charges if the computer im on doesnt have iTunes, it's ridiculously ressource intensive...


For managing playlists and such ON A COMPUTER, okay np why not ,it works.
But being forced to be tied to this piece of software in our era of open sourceing and user modification plugins etc, forcing customers to bind ipod and itune should be considered technologic nazism, im not even kidding.

Ya I have to agree that you need an additional piece of software to get the songs off of what basically is a portable hard drive is completely RETARDED! Also the fact you have to erase and recopy the whole damn library just because you want to add one song is asinine.

I bought some software called iMusic Tools, its apparently some sort of Utility software for the ipod. I got it at Best Buy and I havent tried it yet. Since we got a foot of snow here today, and I couldnt get to work, Ill try it and report back.

The Argumentalizer wrote:I'm Curious? Why do you hate ITunes, (the app)?

It's bloated beyond belief. I used to run it on my pc, which is by no means amazing but its not bad either. I would start up itunes and memory usage would shoot up from nearly nothing to most of my 4GB. I have at least 50 - 60GB of music on my pc, but this does not happen with any other music players I have used. foobar2000, winamp, mediamonkey, all of them did not freeze when importing this library. I would then try and close itunes but it would freeze, forcing me to a hard reset of the pc. This happened after numerous reinstalls and upgrades, so it was not a hardware conflict. It has the cheek to charge you 99c for a song and then restrict what you can play it on and where you can play it. All of those features you mentioned could be done faster, easier and without all the bloat in another media player.Apple Lossless codec is decent, but again its counter productive, why limit yourself to certain hardware or software when the alternative (FLAC) can be played on hundreds of devices.

Well, i have an Ipod and consider some of the other players are crap.

Also, not one of those apps mentioned does anything remotely close to what Itunes can do.
So, even playing an MP3 and encoding ALAC at the same time, its using 50 of one of my procs. In fact that includes everything running.

But, i got where you are coming from. Media Monkey may be better for you.
It does seem folks are talking about their Ipods and not ITunes though.
I have either archived ALAC or LAME Mp3s and can convert ALAC to Mp3, so why FLAC?
I have an IPod. It doesn't support FLAC.

If i had a Zune though...

I NEVER Liked Apple products anyway. Overpriced for what they are.

The Argumentalizer wrote:Well, i have an Ipod and consider some of the other players are crap.
Also, not one of those apps mentioned does anything remotely close to what Itunes can do.

Like what, winamp can group by artist, group, year of publication, genre and a whole host of other fields, foobar2000 can, as can media monkey. Winamp has an intergrated music store, you can get plugins to do that for both foobar and media monkey. You can rip to a whole host of formats in any of them, they all have album art cover finders. The only things I can think off that itunes can do that non of the others can do is cover flow, hog memory and purchase using iTunes, non of which I care about..

I have an ipod but I use rockbox (http://www.rockbox.org), so I don't need to use iTunes and I can play FLAC files.

But to each his own I guess

tansee ipod transfer

and

MGTEK dopisp to put music in my ipod using wmp

I strongly believe that songbird is going to be the next big media player http://www.getsongbird.com/

@Freetux: it scrobbles

Jelly Fox wrote:I strongly believe that songbird is going to be the next big media player http://www.getsongbird.com/

I believe anything by Mozilla/Google that is opensource will pwn anything else soon enough.

Jelly Fox wrote:I strongly believe that songbird is going to be the next big media player http://www.getsongbird.com/

@Freetux: it scrobbles

I tried it earlier on in its beta, seemed too buggy to bother with at that point, might look at it again soon. It will take a lot for something to beat Amarok 1.4.XX for me though.

I like the IPOD and the ablity to carry 50 CDs worth of music on something smaller than a deck of cards. I hate Apple and think that not allowing it to do 2 way communication within ITUNES was fucking stupid. I sincerely believe they did it so you would have a hard time getting music from other people and you had to go to their IStore and buy it. >.<

Paradox wrote:I sincerely believe they did it so you would have a hard time getting music from other people and you had to go to their IStore and buy it. >.<

Of course they did, they even went as far as to steal music from people and then sell it without passing on the royalties to the artists.

http://torrentfreak.com/pirated-by-itun ... nt-080206/

EDIT/UPDATE

The software I bought does work. There was a checkbox I missed because I had the window minimized and didnt see it. Its transferring the music to my PC now.
The program cost $20 and its made by a company called Cosmi.

You can purchase it online here: http://www.cosmi.com/onlinestore/prodde ... r=ROM07532

Freetux wrote: Of course they did, they even went as far as to steal music from people and then sell it without passing on the royalties to the artists.

http://torrentfreak.com/pirated-by-itun ... nt-080206/

"Beyond that, iTunes and other services simply are not acceptable to me. No company will have any control over a product that I legally own after I buy it, period."

Sounds like Steam

Thanks for the replies guys.
I reformatted because she had a lot of viruses on her computer. Her bro had been using limewire on it to get free music and I think that's where most of her music came from also, so instead of dicking with trying to get rid of the viruses I reformatted, but that's the thing, when you connect the ipod to a new library it wants to reformat your ipod and that's what I was talking about with wanting to get the music off her ipod back onto her computer. Besides the fact, it was a old Dell Inspirion 3000 so I just gave her my spare computer instead.

I'll look into those programs though.
Thanks a bunch.

DEATH-ANGEL wrote:Thanks for the replies guys.
I reformatted because she had a lot of viruses on her computer. Her bro had been using limewire on it to get free music and I think that's where most of her music came from also, so instead of dicking with trying to get rid of the viruses I reformatted, but that's the thing, when you connect the ipod to a new library it wants to reformat your ipod and that's what I was talking about with wanting to get the music off her ipod back onto her computer. Besides the fact, it was a old Dell Inspirion 3000 so I just gave her my spare computer instead.

I'll look into those programs though.
Thanks a bunch.

yea itunes wanted to reformat my ipod in order for me to be able to put new music, thats what i use MGTEK dopisp instead.

I don't understand anything of what you guys are saying. If you connect it to a new library, just check the box to manually manage music and such. If you add a new song, just let it sync automatically. The only thing I don't like about iTunes is that you can't transfer music off of your iPod. You can just use the iPod as a hard drive though and put the song you like on the iPod and transfer it to your own home library.

I'm not defending iTunes. I'm not a big fan of it either. But with a new computer, I don't feel like it hogs much resources. On old ones though, it's a pain. At the moment, I have a 30.03GB library. It takes a while at start up to get ready, but other than that, I think it's fine. With only firefox, steam, and iTunes open, my keyboard says I'm only using 22% of my RAM while using almost 0% of CPU. Here's a screenie.

badinfluence wrote:I don't understand anything of what you guys are saying.

The only thing I don't like about iTunes is that you can't transfer music off of your iPod.

^^ That is what we are discussing, how to do that. There are software programs made to do that. I have one called iMusic Tools that lets me transfer music off the Ipod because I lost my library at one point as did D.A.'s Gf.

Thats to prevent folks from stealing music. Do you think you can download a Zune ?
If it is YOUR music, there is not a problem in the world.


What folks want to do is "Gee, let me have all the stolen music you have and just DL it from your player thing!!"
YAYYY FREE MUSIC~~~! And super Easy!. Now i will play my stolen MUSIC while i rale on about IStore piracy!!!"

My Library is all mine. I have most everything as an unprotected MP3 on a big HD. I could use the library with any player i would like. I dont have to use IPOd or Itunes. The classical i have is in ALAC, which can convert to MP3 and some Itunes.
Backup your library= NP!, Use other players=NP, Add or Subtract any track i want =NP.
Downloading my brothers music to my library =PROBLEM!!!!

Having lost your entire library on your PC is the ONLY legitimate reason you need to transfer from player to library, and you are formatting because of Limewire theft in the first place.

You dont even need a player to add tracks to your PC. Ever heard of burning to disc? Thats right, you COULD burn a disk or write and transfer.
And the Ipod is the nicest player out there. It has the best screen and format. It pawnz most players.
This started as an ITunes discussion, but several thingss lead to another discussion entirely.
Beyond a dislike for the app, its really something to see folks complain about Apple because Apple is not assisting them steal.
You can all commence to purging me from your friends list if its necessary.

Lol yea, all my music I have bought myself.
She just needs to get her music off her ipod because I just did a clean format.
Anyways thanks for the help guys.

lol @ rant about music piracy.

Zman42 wrote:lol @ rant about music piracy.

indeed
the same people who rant about music piracy, probably don't think twice about giving a book they bought to a friend to read.
My take is once you buy something you are free to do with it as you please.

CD'S are a fucking waste of money and ressources.

Artists should invest more moneys on either more impressive live shows or cheaper live shows. People are stealing jpgs of artists work on the net, people mod a game they bought they graph on city-owned walls and buildings,i can't see why music is such a big fucking deal.

All the best bands are 1) underground 2)famous local bands 3) big bands with a brain (NIN, Coldplay etc..) because they are fueled by passion, not by money.

The existance of the CD itself is beyond my understanding (its just a money thing again) people either torrent/itunes, no one owns a cd player anymore because it skips and its heavy.

Quality-wise, vinyls should come back for home-listening and cds should die in a fire.

People have been stealing from software developers for decades. As soon as the music industry is affected, it is the end of the world and lawsuits start flying. I am willing to bet that a good percentage of those outraged musicians either have, or have had some pirated software on their PC at some point, and have never even stopped to consider how hypocritical they are being.

L2k wrote:

Zman42 wrote:lol @ rant about music piracy.

indeed
The same people who rant about music piracy, probably don't think twice about giving a book they bought to a friend to read.
My take is once you buy something you are free to do with it as you please.

Well, too bad that is not true. Even with a book, you are not allowed to use anything from that book in another enterprise without clearing copyright.

This is really a sign of the times. The music business? screw that, I WANT IT FREE!
Anway folks rationalize it, it is still wrong. Artists and businesses who have a product are entitled to gross from its sale.
If you don't want to pay, no one says it is required of you to HAVE it.
Lol, lmao, chortle, w/e...
Do you think artists eat AIR and fuel their cars with AIR or pay for studio time with AIR?????

Sure, you should be able to stream your music or backup your DVDs. That is fair use.
Theft is another thing.
Folks love music and its understandable, but this notion that piracy has been going on doesn't justify YOU DOING IT.
And it doesn't make it right.
And i don't care what folks think of me for saying it.
Its THEFT of intellectual property rights.
Are you sneaking into the live shows also?

The Argumentalizer wrote:Are you sneaking into the live shows also?

Not since I stopped drinking.

Walking Target wrote:Not since I stopped drinking.

The Argumentalizer wrote:

L2k wrote:

Zman42 wrote:lol @ rant about music piracy.

indeed
The same people who rant about music piracy, probably don't think twice about giving a book they bought to a friend to read.
My take is once you buy something you are free to do with it as you please.

Well, too bad that is not true. Even with a book, you are not allowed to use anything from that book in another enterprise without clearing copyright.

This is really a sign of the times. The music business? screw that, I WANT IT FREE!
Anway folks rationalize it, it is still wrong. Artists and businesses who have a product are entitled to gross from its sale.
If you don't want to pay, no one says it is required of you to HAVE it.
Lol, lmao, chortle, w/e...
Do you think artists eat AIR and fuel their cars with AIR or pay for studio time with AIR?????

Sure, you should be able to stream your music or backup your DVDs. That is fair use.
Theft is another thing.
Folks love music and its understandable, but this notion that piracy has been going on doesn't justify YOU DOING IT.
And it doesn't make it right.
And i don't care what folks think of me for saying it.
Its THEFT of intellectual property rights.
Are you sneaking into the live shows also?

People have been "stealing" music since the cassette tape and Im pretty sure there was no fuss about it in the 80's that I can remember. You could record off the radio or a friends tape and it was no biggy. All this goes mainstream and the record execs start bitching because they are losing money that they never should of been making in the first place. They've been robbing people for years by having one hit song on a disc/cassette/album and the only way to get it would be to pay for the whole thing lol. 9 shitty songs and 1 good one, they banked on it for years and now that the odds are a bit more even, they whine. Boohoo, Ill never pay for music again unless it's a band that I fully support and feel they deserve my money. Hell, if you have a good enough system/speakers, you will find that alot of cds sound like shit anyways.

its about the music not the money.

http://defianceohio.terrorware.com/audio.php

.conflict wrote:CD'S are a fucking waste of money and ressources.

Artists should invest more moneys on either more impressive live shows or cheaper live shows. People are stealing jpgs of artists work on the net, people mod a game they bought they graph on city-owned walls and buildings,i can't see why music is such a big fucking deal.

All the best bands are 1) underground 2)famous local bands 3) big bands with a brain (NIN, Coldplay etc..) because they are fueled by passion, not by money.

The existance of the CD itself is beyond my understanding (its just a money thing again) people either torrent/itunes, no one owns a cd player anymore because it skips and its heavy.

Quality-wise, vinyls should come back for home-listening and cds should die in a fire.

QFT!

I got a bunch of Vinyls back home along with a couple of good turntables. The only problem I see with that is how much does it cost to press 100 vinyl albums vs making 100 cds of the same album.

Blasphemy wrote:its about the music not the money.

http://defianceohio.terrorware.com/audio.php

My ex was obsessed with them, never saw the appeal to be honest.

Take off music with

http://www.getsharepod.com/

Adds it into itunes or file

Format ipod

Send the music you want on ipod from itunes etc

Gee, i didn't think i was talking about passing a tape to a buddy to hear.
There are millions offering folks WORK/Property/LAWFUL Copyright, for free, against the lawfor download.

It doesn't matter if theft has always occurred.
Murder has always occurred. Not that they compare, but you SHOULD see what i mean.
It iS a rationalization and an excuse.

Do not misconstrue. I don't care what folks do.
I am not the internet police or a BMG rep.
I DO care that folks think wrong is right because that is what they want to do.
Not so much judgemental but instructional.
Take it of or leave it.
Enjoy your free music. I'm sure the artist likes being poor.
Also, most artists and websites and Myspace and even ITunes have samples of the music.
That whole argument is poot. RealRhapsody is another way to hear music for cheap, so DLing P2P files isn't even necessary.

do what you think is right but don't make excuses.

U SLAAAAAAGZ wrote:Take off music with

http://www.getsharepod.com/

Adds it into itunes or file

Format ipod

Send the music you want on ipod from itunes etc

Very nice man TY, even works on my iphone and its freeeeeeeeee!

Freetux wrote:

Blasphemy wrote:its about the music not the money.

http://defianceohio.terrorware.com/audio.php

My ex was obsessed with them, never saw the appeal to be honest.

yea, folk-rock isn't for everyone, i dig them though.

if you still talk your ex, you should tell her to listen to some, this bike is a pipe bomb and the bananas, they fall around the same category as defiance, ohio.

not quite the same as the rest of this thread but i'm really impressed with spotify http://www.spotify.com/en/
as a music player its really cool with no buffering like some onlike music players like last fm

opps
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7925455.stm

SND wrote:opps
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7925455.stm

eek my account is free and i never give my details 100% accurate just in case but thats worrying cheers 4 the heads up m8

Free account here as well, <3 spotify