watch out for {HE} bodybagger currently playing as {HE}BBG

Zman42

2009-03-27 05:51:46

His last account was vac'ed from cheats, also apparently holymoly showed them to him.

[~$W~] The Zman: hey
[~$W~] The Zman: who is this?
[~$W~] The Zman: / how do you know me
(HE) BBG: HE Bodybagger
[~$W~] The Zman: oh heya
[~$W~] The Zman is now playing Half-Life 2: Deathmatch. Click here to join.
(HE) BBG: sup
(HE) BBG: last account was vac banned, so this is my new one, adding everyone again
[~$W~] The Zman: your last account was vac'ed??
(HE) BBG: fuck yeah
[~$W~] The Zman: what were you cheating in
(HE) BBG: holzed, just messing around
(HE) BBG: holy showed it to me
[~$W~] The Zman: im posting this on hl2dmu complete with screencaps and then removing you




for those who will argue HE WAS JUST JOKIN LOLOL
http://hl2mp.tsgk.com/index.php?mode=se ... game=hl2mp


oh and i dont give a fuck if you want to just discount this and move on im just putting the information out there for you.
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Nutri-Grain

2009-03-27 06:24:13

Too much sand in your vagina today Z? Calm the fuck down and find something constructive to do with your time. SCREENCAPS AND THREATS AND UNI POSTS...grow up.

tlc

2009-03-27 06:45:25

Nutri-Grain wrote:Too much sand in your vagina today Z? Calm the fuck down and find something constructive to do with your time. SCREENCAPS AND THREATS AND UNI POSTS...grow up.
Because trolling on message boards for dead video games is such a fantastic use of one's time. Truly a scholar of logic and reason per the usual; your insight is on par with Boethius' Lady Philosophy.

bodybagger

2009-03-27 07:05:12

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This kid was really serious?!?!?!! Who da fuk cares anyway? It's not like I'm any good at this game to begin with, or even play in CAL anymore....can't believe it was that big a deal to this kid. Oh well, Z I hope you feel better about yourself now. I'm a big cheater, don't ever play with me again, like you ever did to begin with. I'm gonna go cry now.

Nutri-Grain

2009-03-27 08:07:58

tlc wrote:
Nutri-Grain wrote:Too much sand in your vagina today Z? Calm the fuck down and find something constructive to do with your time. SCREENCAPS AND THREATS AND UNI POSTS...grow up.
Because trolling on message boards for dead video games is such a fantastic use of one's time. Truly a scholar of logic and reason per the usual; your insight is on par with Boethius' Lady Philosophy.
Is it lonely up there on your pedestal tlc?

phantom

2009-03-27 15:04:08

think you took it a bit too far z :/

Uncle Rico

2009-03-27 16:57:48

Nutri-Grain wrote:
tlc wrote:
Nutri-Grain wrote:Too much sand in your vagina today Z? Calm the fuck down and find something constructive to do with your time. SCREENCAPS AND THREATS AND UNI POSTS...grow up.
Because trolling on message boards for dead video games is such a fantastic use of one's time. Truly a scholar of logic and reason per the usual; your insight is on par with Boethius' Lady Philosophy.
Is it lonely up there on your pedestal tlc?
http://iamsosmart.ytmnd.com/

Merlyn

2009-03-27 18:01:37

I played with him last night.. he can hack as much as he wants, he's terrible.

{EE}chEmicalbuRn

2009-03-27 18:16:22

Z,

you didnt hear? cheating is K now.

stretch

2009-03-27 18:20:00

Merlyn wrote:I played with him last night.. he can hack as much as he wants, he's terrible.
lol...agreed

nah jk BB

stretch

BuckyKatt

2009-03-27 18:24:01

tlc wrote:Truly a scholar of logic and reason per the usual; your insight is on par with Boethius' Lady Philosophy.
That may actually be a compliment to a Christian.

two snails

2009-03-27 20:06:06

ooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhh. no you didnt.

Shinigami

2009-03-27 20:15:44

{EE}chEmicalBurn wrote:Z,

you didnt hear? cheating is K now.

YAY!!! :cheer:

provost

2009-03-27 21:50:36

This thread is still around :lol:

Almighty DMU amin, thou shall enlight me with thy moderator powers.

Zman42

2009-03-27 22:46:03

I'm sorry, I didn't realize popular thought is simply to ignore cheaters and flame those who bring up the cheating player's existence. By all means delete this thread and my other one too.

Ko-Tao

2009-03-27 23:34:36

phantom wrote:think you took it a bit too far z :/
Hardly. Now a sticky thread with detailed listings of every verifiably vac banned known player... that might be far enough.

The level of cheating in this community is seriously disgusting.

Zman42

2009-03-27 23:38:31

Ko-Tao wrote:
phantom wrote:think you took it a bit too far z :/
Hardly. Now a sticky thread with detailed listings of every verifiably vac banned known player... that might be far enough.

The level of cheating in this community is seriously disgusting.
ko i think i want to have your babies.

Ko-Tao

2009-03-27 23:46:18

Zman42 wrote:
Ko-Tao wrote:
phantom wrote:think you took it a bit too far z :/
Hardly. Now a sticky thread with detailed listings of every verifiably vac banned known player... that might be far enough.

The level of cheating in this community is seriously disgusting.
ko i think i want to have your babies.
Lets add that to the "seriously disgusting" list as well! :o

Walking Target

2009-03-27 23:55:26

.conflict wrote:This thread is still around :lol:

Almighty DMU amin, thou shall enlight me with thy moderator powers.
Is there a reason it should be deleted?

The Argumentalizer

2009-03-28 00:07:49

<<<<< No reason at all.

i keed i keed :D

Paradox

2009-03-28 00:28:11

Zman42 wrote:
Ko-Tao wrote:
phantom wrote:think you took it a bit too far z :/
Hardly. Now a sticky thread with detailed listings of every verifiably vac banned known player... that might be far enough.

The level of cheating in this community is seriously disgusting.
ko i think i want to have your babies.

Biologically impossible, sorry

{EE}chEmicalbuRn

2009-03-28 04:16:10

holymoly wrote:Yeah I showed bodybagger a hack. I was gonna make a comedy video using hacks but never got around to it.

Everyone should probably de-friend me now, too, since I admitted to knowing that hacks exist.

PS: tlc, you're not impressing anyone with having read Boethius. Anyone who's looked at their own shit on toilet paper has read Boethius.
k, new section in the U forum........"reasons why i was using this hack at the time i was caught"

comedy vid of you hacking Holy. wow, that would be awesome. would be like watching a barry bonds homerun record chase video. i have to say i totally agree with Zman here. its fucking bullshit. knowing that hacks exist and using them are 2 different things, we all know they exist, im pretty sure nobody needs you to show us them

bodybagger

2009-03-28 05:21:34

Update: To all of you whiny little bitches out there, note to you......GO FUCK YOURSELF! and to my homie brian, glad to see a real friend of mine still has my back. ty sir.

{EE}chEmicalbuRn

2009-03-28 05:58:23

bodybagger wrote:Update: To all of you whiny little bitches out there, note to you......GO FUCK YOURSELF! and to my homie brian, glad to see a real friend of mine still has my back. ty sir.
ya, im one of those "little whiny bitches" that wanna play against ppl that arent fucking hacking. i just think this is fucking epic that CAL was put on hold for months while grain was investagated only to find out that he wasnt hacking and now its all of a sudden cool to hack as long as you are "making a vid" or "trying it out" or "using it cause it's obvious" or some stupid shit like that. how you gonna call ppl that try hard to improve their skills without hacks whiny bitches? this game has turned into a joke cause of ppl like you. so you're the one who can go FUCK YOURSELF. just like the rest of the players caught cheating, all your kills are tainted now.

and BTW, ya, many of you dont like zman, and make fun of him for posting what he did, but he's totally right and holds true to the values of fair play and hard work. although i dont like his cocky posts of his "leetness" i still respect him because he has the balls to point out hackers.

Nutri-Grain

2009-03-28 06:36:29

i hack.

you got a problem?

Sacrifist

2009-03-28 06:37:08

{EE}chEmicalBurn wrote:
bodybagger wrote:Update: To all of you whiny little bitches out there, note to you......GO FUCK YOURSELF! and to my homie brian, glad to see a real friend of mine still has my back. ty sir.
ya, im one of those "little whiny bitches" that wanna play against ppl that arent fucking hacking. i just think this is fucking epic that CAL was put on hold for months while grain was investagated only to find out that he wasnt hacking and now its all of a sudden cool to hack as long as you are "making a vid" or "trying it out" or "using it cause it's obvious" or some stupid shit like that. how you gonna call ppl that try hard to improve their skills without hacks whiny bitches? this game has turned into a joke cause of ppl like you. so you're the one who can go FUCK YOURSELF. just like the rest of the players caught cheating, all your kills are tainted now.

and BTW, ya, many of you dont like zman, and make fun of him for posting what he did, but he's totally right and holds true to the values of fair play and hard work. although i dont like his cocky posts of his "leetness" i still respect him because he has the balls to point out hackers.
+1

stretch

2009-03-28 07:49:13

{EE}chEmicalBurn wrote:
bodybagger wrote:Update: To all of you whiny little bitches out there, note to you......GO FUCK YOURSELF! and to my homie brian, glad to see a real friend of mine still has my back. ty sir.
ya, im one of those "little whiny bitches" that wanna play against ppl that arent fucking hacking. i just think this is fucking epic that CAL was put on hold for months while grain was investagated only to find out that he wasnt hacking and now its all of a sudden cool to hack as long as you are "making a vid" or "trying it out" or "using it cause it's obvious" or some stupid shit like that. how you gonna call ppl that try hard to improve their skills without hacks whiny bitches? this game has turned into a joke cause of ppl like you. so you're the one who can go FUCK YOURSELF. just like the rest of the players caught cheating, all your kills are tainted now.
lol, you hear about all these people hacking, but how many people have you played against that were using hacks to try and beat you? none or if any you would tell them there shit and post it on the forumns and bring more shit to this website about hax and the game ending etc. etc.

Z-Man stated that BB got banned for using them, did he say BB was using them for CAL, but got banned in the process? no he did not. so why do you even have to worry about him if it does not even affect you. who cares if people are using hacks to dick around with them, BB did not try and use it in a CAL game or agaisnt you so you should not have to fucking care what he does with it. you don't see everyone in this community lining up to throw their stones at a person for hacking, they probably accept that it is in the game or just don't care. people do as they please and if hacks bother you that much then stick to only playing CAL matches so you will never have to worry about hacks at all

stretch

also your next post will be about that it is a bad impression for this site ,(remember you brought it up), and that he should not do hack against the n00bs he was prolly playing

Paradox

2009-03-28 08:00:33

This is why we cant have nice things.

Had to say it before Kyle got in here and said it. :Wave:

Now back to ------> :popcorn:

Zman42

2009-03-28 09:12:59

i was fairly content to just sit back and watch this unfold in hilarity, but chem, what posts have i made with a cocky attitude? about my "leetness" ?? if you interpreted something that way then im very sorry, as it was definitely not meant that way.

provost

2009-03-28 11:28:45

Walking Target wrote:
.conflict wrote:This thread is still around :lol:

Almighty DMU amin, thou shall enlight me with thy moderator powers.
Is there a reason it should be deleted?
the entire page 2, wich was hard not to see coming, yes.

Briggs

2009-03-28 11:51:25

Custom models cheats cheats hax hax hax! fuck vote kick voteban!

-Neolinkster

Blasphemy

2009-03-28 12:55:03

did some one say hacks?

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Jelly Fox

2009-03-28 13:32:16

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Jelly Fox

2009-03-28 13:33:01

Blasphemy wrote:did some one say hacks?
no

provost

2009-03-28 13:37:44

Also, i have a VAC'd account aswell and there's no thread about it. Should I be jealous? it's not like i kept it secret either, just check for some previous post where i state it clearly and some well known players know about it (people i usually mess around with like ninjins etc.. )

It seemed too easy to hack and i was curious how the thing works etcetera etcetera, i tried in private 1vs1 where my opponent knew what i was up to wich could be refered as "messing around" It also took a FUCKING long time before it got vac'd.

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Jelly Fox

2009-03-28 13:47:22

Holy shit Cons a hacker :O

What's the difference between Z-42 and Z-71?

Keeper

2009-03-28 14:16:56

Basically there's no coming back from the Z-71

Paradox

2009-03-28 17:28:58

OMFG the sky has fallen. Conflict used a hack when he was "just messing around".

I used Impulse 101 once to see how it works. A well known player (name has been withheld to protect the guilty) showed me how.

{EE}chEmicalbuRn

2009-03-28 18:00:20

stretch wrote:
{EE}chEmicalBurn wrote:
bodybagger wrote:Update: To all of you whiny little bitches out there, note to you......GO FUCK YOURSELF! and to my homie brian, glad to see a real friend of mine still has my back. ty sir.
ya, im one of those "little whiny bitches" that wanna play against ppl that arent fucking hacking. i just think this is fucking epic that CAL was put on hold for months while grain was investagated only to find out that he wasnt hacking and now its all of a sudden cool to hack as long as you are "making a vid" or "trying it out" or "using it cause it's obvious" or some stupid shit like that. how you gonna call ppl that try hard to improve their skills without hacks whiny bitches? this game has turned into a joke cause of ppl like you. so you're the one who can go FUCK YOURSELF. just like the rest of the players caught cheating, all your kills are tainted now.
lol, you hear about all these people hacking, but how many people have you played against that were using hacks to try and beat you? none or if any you would tell them there shit and post it on the forumns and bring more shit to this website about hax and the game ending etc. etc.

Z-Man stated that BB got banned for using them, did he say BB was using them for CAL, but got banned in the process? no he did not. so why do you even have to worry about him if it does not even affect you. who cares if people are using hacks to dick around with them, BB did not try and use it in a CAL game or agaisnt you so you should not have to fucking care what he does with it. you don't see everyone in this community lining up to throw their stones at a person for hacking, they probably accept that it is in the game or just don't care. people do as they please and if hacks bother you that much then stick to only playing CAL matches so you will never have to worry about hacks at all

stretch

also your next post will be about that it is a bad impression for this site ,(remember you brought it up), and that he should not do hack against the n00bs he was prolly playing

ill just pick out the few parts of that post that actually made sense. so basically you were (attempting) to say that cheating is cool as long as it's not in CAL? that's just epically brilliant. Also how would I know if ppl I played against were hacking or not? I wouldnt. CAL is dead, dead, dead. Even if it does some how come back there will be less then 6 teams playing in it. When i play a match, whether it be CAL, warzone, a scrim, or a pub, I dont think it's unreasonable of me to want all my oppenents (or teammates) to be free of any hacks. but i guess there are a million excuses to why they were....so fuck it. As for your last sentence.......FAIL.

provost

2009-03-28 18:32:03

Jelly Fox wrote:What's the difference between Z-42 and Z-71?
Z-42 is for poor people
Z-71 is for rich elite

There's no difference really, but how good you must feel when you aren't using Z-42 - damn!

also: 3 pages of useless junk, gogogo

provost

2009-03-28 18:38:36

I think it is time for me to say, me and moly are into baby-makin.

We won't stop until one of us gets pregnant. Fuck science, yes we can.

Uncle Rico

2009-03-28 19:12:17

.conflict wrote:I think it is time for me to say, me and moly are into baby-makin.

We won't stop until one of us gets pregnant. Fuck science, yes we can.
I'm not gonna waste any time arguing here, but I'm with you two. I can haz baby too?

Panic

2009-03-28 19:48:40

please stop arguing useless semantics, kiss and make up already, he's not a hacker he used a hack as a joke.

Walking Target

2009-03-28 19:49:10

The problem is there is no way to distinguish between those who actually are using hacks versus those who are "just testing them". Bottom line, just don't do it or you are not better than those kids who say "I let my cousin use my account".

If you are just testing hacks, the probability of you using one against me on your regular account just went up. Especially if you couldn't play worth a damn last month and then this month you have uber-leet prediction skills and ambush me all over the map.

Just don't do it. Just speaking for myself, my respect for you will drop, and I will take any matches you play with a grain of salt.

Nutri-Grain

2009-03-28 19:52:51

Walking Target wrote:I will take any matches you play with a Grain of Nutri .
Aw thanks man :D

Jelly Fox

2009-03-28 20:18:15

Where can I get hax? I wanna try them out too :wink:

provost

2009-03-28 21:45:46

Jelly Fox wrote:Where can I get hax? I wanna try them out too :wink:
easy enough, go in #css and ask for them, they all haz it.

lulz

graffitiknockout

2009-03-28 22:10:02

Walking Target wrote:The problem is there is no way to distinguish between those who actually are using hacks versus those who are "just testing them". Bottom line, just don't do it or you are not better than those kids who say "I let my cousin use my account".

If you are just testing hacks, the probability of you using one against me on your regular account just went up. Especially if you couldn't play worth a damn last month and then this month you have uber-leet prediction skills and ambush me all over the map.

Just don't do it. Just speaking for myself, my respect for you will drop, and I will take any matches you play with a grain of salt.
Agreed. Making real progress as a player after you've been discovered as a cheater is seen as somewhat suspicious, especially if your skills dramatically increased in a short amount of time. However, I have known players who have tested hacks to find out information, then never used them again. There is no way to say with 100% certainty what people's real motives are.

I agree that this game's population is small, but that is no reason to completely ignore cheaters, especially from a league's and clan's standpoint. The goal is to keep everything clean and legit, so that everyone can enjoy playing on a level playing field. That being said, keep a list, and it's up to each clan's discretion whether or not to recruit players from this list.

p.s. do not shoot the messenger, they are just trying to keep this game legit.

Sacrifist

2009-03-28 22:34:22

holymoly wrote:chemicalburn, you're making a bad argument. It's stupid to say that, since bodybagger was messing around with hacks, he probably uses them in league matches. Those are two entirely different circumstances. You could argue that there's a higher likelihood he would use a hack in a league match, but that doesn't seem to really hold up to scrutiny either. It takes a whole different mindset to cheat in a league match than it does to mess around in a Russian pub server. The attitude you and Zman are displaying just seems like hacking paranoia.

The immature points of view in this thread reveal several people who take this game too seriously, most likely due to the inordinate amount of time they spend playing it. How about we just take a step back, unwad our panties, and go out for a smoke.

Besides, with the extremely limited number of players in this game, it seems unwise to go on such witch hunts and alienate whole groups of players. If you're trying to fracture the player base and screw over the little community left in this 4-year old game, you're doing a pretty gurrrrrd joearb.
Congrats for one of the dumbest posts of the year.

The immature points of view related to using hacks for "experimental" sake reveal several people who take this game too seriously, most likely due to getting their ass handed to them from someone with more skill. Therefore, they are "testing" hacks to see which ones are undetectable from vac. How about we just take a step back, unwad your need to be cool by hacking, and go out for a smoke.

You are promoting hacks by using them, regardless of why you are using them.

Ko-Tao

2009-03-29 00:40:31

People who just wanted to "test" hax for whatever reason could easily do so offline or on a non-vac server, and not have their account banned and reputation dragged thru the muck in the process. The fact that these players instead did so online, on a vac protected server, points to unsavory motives.

Also, i could care less about the community shrinking due to alienating of cheaters. Id rather be playing matches with a handful of legit players as opposed to a great load of sir ducer clones, and id hazard a fairly informed guess that this view is shared by many other competitive players as well.

{EE}chEmicalbuRn

2009-03-29 00:46:05

Sacrifist wrote:
holymoly wrote:chemicalburn, you're making a bad argument. It's stupid to say that, since bodybagger was messing around with hacks, he probably uses them in league matches. Those are two entirely different circumstances. You could argue that there's a higher likelihood he would use a hack in a league match, but that doesn't seem to really hold up to scrutiny either. It takes a whole different mindset to cheat in a league match than it does to mess around in a Russian pub server. The attitude you and Zman are displaying just seems like hacking paranoia.

The immature points of view in this thread reveal several people who take this game too seriously, most likely due to the inordinate amount of time they spend playing it. How about we just take a step back, unwad our panties, and go out for a smoke.

Besides, with the extremely limited number of players in this game, it seems unwise to go on such witch hunts and alienate whole groups of players. If you're trying to fracture the player base and screw over the little community left in this 4-year old game, you're doing a pretty gurrrrrd joearb.
Congrats for one of the dumbest posts of the year.

The immature points of view related to using hacks for "experimental" sake reveal several people who take this game too seriously, most likely due to getting their ass handed to them from someone with more skill. Therefore, they are "testing" hacks to see which ones are undetectable from vac. How about we just take a step back, unwad your need to be cool by hacking, and go out for a smoke.

You are promoting hacks by using them, regardless of why you are using them.

i love you. nvm Sac. they just arent going to get it. its a new rule, hacking is fine. do it until you get caught, VAC banned or w/e. then choose one of the following:

1-i was making a comedy vid. but never got around to finishing it.
2-i was just testing it, in a pub, without telling anybody.
3-holy said it was K
4-its not like i was using it in CAL


then its all cool.

bodybagger

2009-03-29 00:58:42

My latest attempts to clear the air and have this post buried in a time capsule for apes to see when they one day rule the earth in years to come.

Ok, let me see if I read earlier responses correctly. Other people in the community have clearly admitted to using hacks in the past to kill boredom (i.e Conflict). If I'm not mistaken, he admitted to using one, had his account vac banned as well, and is in the same clan as the dude who started this thread (i.e Z-man). So, does that mean it is ok to "mess around with" hacks when said offender is in your own clan, but not ok when it's not? Regardless, yes I (i.e Body Bagger) admit to using a program called Holzed ***LINK EDITED*** and was ulitmately vac banned for it. Believe me when I say I was crushed and disgusted that my account was takin away from me, because like some (or most of you) I have been playing hl2dm since its first release. Do I think I did a bad thing? Yes and No. Yes - if I would have had the audacity to use this hack in any scrim, 1v1, ecw, or cal match. No - because I used this hack in one pub server. In regards to Chemical's response saying hacks should not be used in any fashion (including pubs), I respect your opinion. Do I think it's a little drastic, yes. But, any match that I've ever played in, (ECW and CAL), I have NEVER NEVER used this program or any like it. I would agree with everyone that using these hacks here are disgusting and I probably would be throwing stones with the rest of you. I am one of the few people left who actually play this game, and I know all of the AT that all of you do too, not because some hack helped me achieve this, but because of hard work and effort to better myself at this game. I love this game, even with all it's bugs and exploits, (i.e. rate changes, speedcrawling, etc).
I pray that valve actually makes a hl3dm, but because of its learning curve, bugs, lack of interest, I will probably never see this day come. The thought of this makes me really sad. It would be like bungie telling their loyal halo2 followers that we will not be releasing a 3rd halo. I wish we had that sort of following. But we don't. Hopefully I'm wrong and Valve surprises me in 5 years. : ). I'm sorry I caused so much of a commotion, but I'm glad it's out there. Chemical, if it makes you feel any better, we can play a match, and I will record a demo for you and send it your way. Maybe I can prove to you and the rest of the naysayers that good players actually dick around every now and then.

{EE}chEmicalbuRn

2009-03-29 01:20:28

bodybagger wrote:My latest attempts to clear the air and have this post buried in a time capsule for apes to see when they one day rule the earth in years to come.

Ok, let me see if I read earlier responses correctly. Other people in the community have clearly admitted to using hacks in the past to kill boredom (i.e Conflict). If I'm not mistaken, he admitted to using one, had his account vac banned as well, and is in the same clan as the dude who started this thread (i.e Z-man). So, does that mean it is ok to "mess around with" hacks when said offender is in your own clan, but not ok when it's not? Regardless, yes I (i.e Body Bagger) admit to using a program called Holzed ***LINK EDITED*** and was ulitmately vac banned for it. Believe me when I say I was crushed and disgusted that my account was takin away from me, because like some (or most of you) I have been playing hl2dm since its first release. Do I think I did a bad thing? Yes and No. Yes - if I would have had the audacity to use this hack in any scrim, 1v1, ecw, or cal match. No - because I used this hack in one pub server. In regards to Chemical's response saying hacks should not be used in any fashion (including pubs), I respect your opinion. Do I think it's a little drastic, yes. But, any match that I've ever played in, (ECW and CAL), I have NEVER NEVER used this program or any like it. I would agree with everyone that using these hacks here are disgusting and I probably would be throwing stones with the rest of you. I am one of the few people left who actually play this game, and I know all of the AT that all of you do too, not because some hack helped me achieve this, but because of hard work and effort to better myself at this game. I love this game, even with all it's bugs and exploits, (i.e. rate changes, speedcrawling, etc).
I pray that valve actually makes a hl3dm, but because of its learning curve, bugs, lack of interest, I will probably never see this day come. The thought of this makes me really sad. It would be like bungie telling their loyal halo2 followers that we will not be releasing a 3rd halo. I wish we had that sort of following. But we don't. Hopefully I'm wrong and Valve surprises me in 5 years. : ). I'm sorry I caused so much of a commotion, but I'm glad it's out there. Chemical, if it makes you feel any better, we can play a match, and I will record a demo for you and send it your way. Maybe I can prove to you and the rest of the naysayers that good players actually dick around every now and then.
dude, first off, did you once in any of my posts see me say that you are a bad player? never. i've played with you a bunch of times on the FF server. i've always thought you as a nice guy, very respectable and very tallented. thats why this thread shocked me. i, unlike most of you, have not been playing this game since its release. in fact i started playing about 15 months ago because i was sick of play UT2004 and needed a game to hold me over until UT3 came out. little did i know that i would become so addicted to this game. i think my addiction to it has A LOT to do with this community and the friends i have made here. when ever i play a new game, i always think to myself, i wonder what is going on in HL2dm right now. i have never played hl1 or even played hl2 for more than 5 mins. just dm. i took me a long time to get where i am now, which isnt anywhere near as good as some of you who have been playing for years and years. but i never hack. and for the record demo's dont prove shit. do i honestly think that you hack all the time? honestly, no, i dont. but i can promise you that every time i see you playing from now on i will question it, and that is something you brought on yourself. thats it, im done with this thread. i cant stand repeating myself.

Nutri-Grain

2009-03-29 03:29:35

wow.... This thread just about sums up the stupidity of the hl2dm community.

Panic

2009-03-29 04:24:46

Nutri-Grain wrote:wow.... This thread just about sums up the stupidity of the hl2dm community.

phantom

2009-03-29 05:19:52

Nutri-Grain wrote:wow.... This thread just about sums up the stupidity of the hl2dm community.

Uncle Rico

2009-03-29 05:42:46

Nutri-Grain wrote:wow.... This thread just about sums up the stupidity of the hl2dm community.

<kyle>

2009-03-29 05:49:51

C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!

Panic

2009-03-29 07:17:41

you sir, win.

{EE}chEmicalbuRn

2009-03-29 07:37:29

Uncle Rico wrote:
Nutri-Grain wrote:wow.... This thread just about sums up the stupidity of the hl2dm community.
the difference between stupidity and intelligence is intelligence has limits

Paradox

2009-03-29 08:19:11

{EE}chEmicalBurn wrote:
Uncle Rico wrote:
Nutri-Grain wrote:wow.... This thread just about sums up the stupidity of the hl2dm community.
the difference between stupidity and intelligence is intelligence has limits

Yeah but its not nearly as funny.

Uncle Rico

2009-03-29 08:56:36

It's all so hypocritical. Someone uses a hack, admits it, then we choose whether or not to get our pitch forks and hoes and go get the fire ready. Some get lit aflame, while others just get a lul. Then again, some can even do something like lie about their age to get into FIOS, admit to having people use his teammates accounts during CAL matches, and we make them board members on the good ol' U. Odd how that works, eh?

Va|iums

2009-03-29 10:55:12

holymoly wrote:
its a new rule, hacking is fine. do it until you get caught, VAC banned or w/e. then choose one of the following:

1-i was making a comedy vid. but never got around to finishing it.
2-i was just testing it, in a pub, without telling anybody.
3-holy said it was K
4-its not like i was using it in CAL
I don't hack and never have, but my comedy video would have been hilarious and, chemicalburn, you CAN use hacks because I said it's K. I suggest using a hack called holzed. It's really neat and its totally undetectable, just like hl2hook. It won't get you VAC'ed or anything. You can totally download it from like 30 websites if you google it. I think it's an awesome idea.
Wow. Your officially a retard holymoly. You've just opened the floodgates for newer players who want to cut the learning curve time short. The good thing is that players in HL2DM with enough pure natural skill like Seagull, Nutri, Blas, Luke ect will always have the ability to compete and most likely beat players with lower amounts of brain cells that even with wallhacks or league version aimbots cannot compete with high caliber natural skill players. The same cannot be said for counter strike..Holy and BB you guys officially look like jerkoffs.

Va|iums

2009-03-29 10:57:11

There is no justification for even trying a hack in a pub or scrim period, it shows what little class you have, get lost.

CellarDweller

2009-03-29 17:53:07

Uncle Rico wrote:It's all so hypocritical. Someone uses a hack, admits it, then we choose whether or not to get our pitch forks and hoes and go get the fire ready. Some get lit aflame, while others just get a lul. Then again, some can even do something like lie about their age to get into FIOS, admit to having people use his teammates accounts during CAL matches, and we make them board members on the good ol' U. Odd how that works, eh?
i have no sympathy for anyone whose been vac banned... UNTIL they stop rationalizing the "why" and show some genuine remorse. thats not being hypocritical.

i dont' find cheating humorous. and i dont see the difference between using cheats in a pub or in league play. for me, competition is fun and so is pubbing. i enjoy competition more than pubbing due to the "wow" factor of seeing some really skilled play. but i dont devalue pubbing to a categorie that makes cheating acceptable.

i have no idea who/what you're referring to with the fios/cal matches thing. so you're making an assumption that its a "known" fact throughout the community. unless you care to elaborate and educate us mushrooms, i'll chalk that part of your post up to innuendo/gossip/hearsay.

Paradox

2009-03-29 18:32:36

I have to agree with Cellar that anyone that has been Vac'd really doesnt deserve sympathy, but when it is someone I have known for a long time, it does make me pause a bit before passing complete judgement. The only thing that I will add is that haxing in a pub has got to be the lamest shit on earth. I mean seriously you got to hax to beat the guy that spawns and runs at you with the SMG spraying. LMAO. Also how are we going to get aspiring pub players to want to learn more if all they see is the "l33t" players just using hax? Hell half of them think we hax as it is. I am not a great player and I certainly dont consider myself l33t, but I usually do very well in pubs and I also want level a playing field so that I know the results of a round are due to pure skill, maybe some luck, not a computer program designed to take that out.


Holy and BodyBagger. I have known both of you almost since the time I started playing this game. BB, I was one of the noobs that hung out on the HE server three years ago and played with you and many other HE from back then. I always thought you were a good player, you certainly took me to school often back then. I can understand being curious about how something works, but it does tarnish both of your reps (not that you should care) to know that you have done this and will make people wonder if there is more to it. I am not passing judgement per se; personally, I give you credit for admitting it, but youll have to face some flammage as you are seeing.

Walking Target

2009-03-29 18:46:43

Uncle Rico wrote:It's all so hypocritical. Someone uses a hack, admits it, then we choose whether or not to get our pitch forks and hoes and go get the fire ready. Some get lit aflame, while others just get a lul. Then again, some can even do something like lie about their age to get into FIOS, admit to having people use his teammates accounts during CAL matches, and we make them board members on the good ol' U. Odd how that works, eh?
I recruited everyone to the positions here, and my conscience is clean. I don't care that one person participated in FIOS when they shouldn't have. Correct, he shouldn't have done it, but that isn't even a fraction as bad as hacking. I know nothing of any account sharing.

I don't "lul" when someone gets caught hacking, I write them off immediately. Just because some threads are more reactionary than others doesn't make me a hypocrite here either.

provost

2009-03-29 18:58:26

CellarDweller wrote:
i have no sympathy for anyone whose been vac banned... UNTIL they stop rationalizing the "why" and show some genuine remorse. thats not being hypocritical.
I tested the latest hacks around when the new ACS was around to feed suggestions and to know what to check in general when looking at "this one guy suspicious demo"

I had about 4 1v1 with luke in a locked server and no one else, I took time comparing my old demos vs the ones im hacking on demos to know what to look after when shit hits the fan about cheating people and I knew how it was i could add my word to the questioning of some people's play and turn the tide in their favor.

Fuck your sympathy and your hypocrisy // this post has been a troll fest long enough.

-also-

I'll Gladly Pay You Tuesday For A Hamburger Today!

Keeper

2009-03-29 19:10:00

.conflict wrote:... this post has been a troll fest long enough.
Agreed. Locked ... unless WT doesn't agree :D