Yeah well we destroyed Royal Navy fleets with 1950's airplanes in 1982. War is fight with weapons, but they are won by men. I think Platton said that, lol.
Ok, continue worshipping your government and its methods. All those unemployed people (because of the crisis) will probably join the army and invade Iran, North Korea, Venezuela, because their politics aren't compatible with yours.
The Argumentalizer wrote:"Nobody said shit when two nuclear bombs were dropped at Japan."
Your godamn right they didn't.
And more people died when we massively bombed/firebombed Germany.
FUCK EM! You don't want trouble, DON'T START ANY!
Thats the terrorist argument when they blow up in foreign soil. You mess with my country I mess with yours. And they say exactly the same "You don't want trouble, Don't start any".
Nobody touched the US during the WW2, most of Germany's capital was made there. Japan did Pearl Harbor because the US violated the neutrality rules. It cutted all exports to Japan but not England. And Roosevelt/Churchill were very aware of this attack, but they said nothing about it to get your country into war, even more, Roosevelt ordered the fallback of 3 or 4 modern warships and left the "older" ones. And even more, Churchill ordered the assassination of a whole Dutch Uboat crew because they saw this Japanese fleet heading your way. Quoting Cristopher Creighton's book:
"The decision to destroy the Dutch submarine K-XVII was taken for the following reasons.
On 28 November 1941, when Commander Besancon sighted the Japanese fleet apparently heading for Pearl Harbour, he promptly signalled in code to the Commander-in-Chief, Royal Navy Far Eastern Command, under whose authority the Dutch were operating. His message was intercepted by the M Section code and cypher office in Singapore. Within hours, copies of the signal arrived in Washington for the eyes of General Donovan only, and in London, for Major Desmond Morton. Both men informed their masters, Roosevelt and Churchill. All four already knew of the planned attack on Pearl Harbour, and all had prayed that it would come about.
At that time, eighty per cent of the American people were vehemently isolationist, and against war with either Japan or Germany. If Roosevelt declared war on Japan without any attack on American assets, the odds were that he would have been impeached. Conversely - as Donovan and Morton had secretly agreed - if America stayed out of the war, the Japanese would be left virtually unopposed to ravage India, Australia, New Zealand and many other countries in the Pacific and Indian oceans. To liberate such countris later might well have proved impossible. Besides, Britain and her allies desperately needed American help against Germany - and if the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbour, it was certain that America would come into war.
Yet if the British and American supremos knew of the impeding attack, why had the American forces in Pearl Harbour not been put on full alert? And why were the US warships not ordered to sea, where they would have been much safer, and able to fight back? Professional opinion of the day believed that the base could be successfully defended. So why was nothing done?
The answer is simple. In Hawaii there were thousands of Japanese expatriates. Most were fiercely loyal to their adopted country, but a sizeable minority were not, and some of these had been spying for their homeland. Also, the Japanese Consulate-General was hyperactive. Had the base been put on full alert, Japanese High Command would have learnt about it in a few hours. The attack would have been cancelled by order of Emperor Hirohito, who had insisted that the assault be a complete surprise. Roosevelt would have lost his pretext for bringing America into the war, with disastrous results for the Allies.
What had all this to do with K-XVII? The connection is clear. If everit became the public that Roosevelt and Churchill had known of the plan to attack Pearl Harbour, and had done nothing to forestall it, not only their careers, but quite probably the whole alliance, would have foundered. The Japanese have been free to conquer and pillage.
The ship's company of K-XVII knew they had sighted the Japanese fleet and reported it to the highest authority. No matter how well-intentioned, such witnesses could prove dangerous. The Allied secret intelligence chiefs therefore decided that no risk could be taken, and the Dutch submariners were silenced."
This book was released when Churchill died. He said the author to do so.
You see, I don't hate the US, but I hate when you think you are the "Good" and you do everything because of Human Rights and stuff. You are no different to all those you want to fight, and your government convince people by killing their own.
And, all the stuff I say, it doesn't come out of my mouth, it comes from many books written by British or American authors (with deep research and evidence). Not foreigners that are jealous or something.
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