sc2 is sick - HL2DMU Forum Archive

ninojman

2010-05-27 07:36:14

If you have played this game the match system is so sick. I wish hl2dm had this system....maybe a job for ag2.
Every multi player dm/rts game should have a system like it.

Va|iums

2010-05-27 08:19:19

I already know the exact timings of 3 openings per race down to seconds, that the terran mech ball with 2-1-1 upgrades is impossible to stop, that zerg macro beyond the 4th expo means you're dead, that protoss if played to perfection is the hardest race to beat, yet the easiest to lose with and use in general. I also know where I'm gonna be spending the next few years with besides HL2DM, GG chess in game form.

Hope to get some time to play you and Billy soon @_@

ninojman

2010-05-27 19:04:38

add me 'derp'

Viperbird

2010-05-27 19:08:59

yea i just wish there were a bit more special abilities, at least for zerg...
I miss my defilers!

Isildur1

2010-05-27 23:55:11

Va|iums wrote:I already know the exact timings of 3 openings per race down to seconds, that the terran mech ball with 2-1-1 upgrades is impossible to stop, that zerg macro beyond the 4th expo means you're dead, that protoss if played to perfection is the hardest race to beat, yet the easiest to lose with and use in general. I also know where I'm gonna be spending the next few years with besides HL2DM, GG chess in game form.

Hope to get some time to play you and Billy soon @_@

can't wait for you to play either, another person for me to carry to victory

. and nino, he won't be able to add derp because he's sharing that account with you.

edit: and why do you care about zerg viper? that race is way to hard for you.

Va|iums

2010-05-28 00:41:34

Isildur1 wrote:
Va|iums wrote:I already know the exact timings of 3 openings per race down to seconds, that the terran mech ball with 2-1-1 upgrades is impossible to stop, that zerg macro beyond the 4th expo means you're dead, that protoss if played to perfection is the hardest race to beat, yet the easiest to lose with and use in general. I also know where I'm gonna be spending the next few years with besides HL2DM, GG chess in game form.

Hope to get some time to play you and Billy soon @_@
can't wait for you to play either, another person for me to carry to victory . and nino, he won't be able to add derp because he's sharing that account with you.

edit: and why do you care about zerg viper? that race is way to hard for you.

lol'd pretty hard

Isildur1

2010-05-28 20:59:17

what's so funny vals? I was being serious. There is 0 chance viper had the micro skills to properly use defilers in sc1, and there is 0 chance he has the macro skills to use queens properly in sc2.

but anyways, you should stop pretending to do school work and come 4v4 with me/charles/nino. Actually, you can probably write your papers during the game, since me/charles are unstoppable forces.

Va|iums

2010-05-29 02:59:25

Isildur1 wrote:what's so funny vals? I was being serious. There is 0 chance viper had the micro skills to properly use defilers in sc1, and there is 0 chance he has the macro skills to use queens properly in sc2.

but anyways, you should stop pretending to do school work and come 4v4 with me/charles/nino. Actually, you can probably write your papers during the game, since me/charles are unstoppable forces.

I was lol'ing at your name "Isildur1". Regardless its true, I wont really have to do shit, I'll prob make a 2 expo, hand you 4 siege tanks and 20 marauders and let you win all the games. I could actually just do nothing but mine for you and youll win.

Charles

2010-05-29 22:57:21

sounds neat

I ****ing hate Zerg vs Zerg with a passion. it's the only reason i want to learn protoss

and i think i'll start integrating more corruptors into my games for the sexy 20% damage spell against thor/colossus. contaminating is also fun. there's spellcasting for you lol

Ko-Tao

2010-06-05 10:04:06

How much randomness is there in this game? Iirc sc1 had a few to-hit chances and/or damage variations on some units (correct me if im wrong); im hoping this isnt the case in sc2.

Viperbird

2010-06-05 12:25:56

ive got some pretty good dark swarms off in my day!
nah im not really a super good player or nuthin
played back in middle school mostly, with the other nerds in the class
who r u btw?

Charles

2010-06-06 04:07:12

@ Ko-Tao: There's no more of a 1/129th chance for projectiles to miss, nor is there the cliff missing thing. I'm still not sure about evading in trees, but such doodads are absent in multiplayer melee maps anyways.

Nutri-Grain

2010-06-06 04:39:35

ninojman

2010-06-06 05:05:07

Nutri-Grain wrote:I love reading these conversations because all of the words mean NOTHING to me. It's like you guys are speaking another language.

lol you should here billy talk about strats on that shit.

But regardless of the game itself, i was speaking to the match making system it uses for you to pub. Take 1v1 for exp. You play 5 matches with random people and based on their skill or lack of, you are placed on a 'Ladder" in 5 different divisions. Then your matches are picked by other players in that division as you work your way up, Or down if you are losing.

Ghost Dog_TSGK

2010-06-06 23:09:48

Nutri-Grain wrote:I love reading these conversations because all of the words mean NOTHING to me. It's like you guys are speaking another language.

When you play sc2 pretend you are foruming and your opponent is fearsome, you will be a natural.

^_^

2010-06-06 23:26:04

i don't like matches being decided by ranking systems, if someone starts on a losing streak and isn't too good at playing they will just carry on getting assigned to matches with other noobs, someone with no skill should be able to randomly decide to play against an experienced pro.
If you don't play against people drastically better than you how do you get better?

ninojman

2010-06-07 00:11:36

^_^ wrote:i don't like matches being decided by ranking systems, if someone starts on a losing streak and isn't too good at playing they will just carry on getting assigned to matches with other noobs, someone with no skill should be able to randomly decide to play against an experienced pro.
If you don't play against people drastically better than you how do you get better?

I assume you have never played a league ladder. I.E TWL, if you are on the bottom you work your way up. Once your rank gets to the top then you go against the best.

It does not take long before you are playing people better then you. I played some good players in my first five matches and lost all 5 placement matches. Now i'm in the bottom division

wrecked the first 3 to get to the top of that division now am playing people in the division above trying to get out.

like many video games you have no chance against a top tier player in your first 10 games. But if you work your way up through the ranks you can go much faster. This system does this. You can challenge anyone in a custom match and can just view the ladder ranks to add a friend.

^_^

2010-06-07 11:07:24

ninojman wrote: I assume you have never played a league ladder. I.E TWL, if you are on the bottom you work your way up. Once your rank gets to the top then you go against the best.

true i have not, i am just prejudice

It does not take long before you are playing people better then you. I played some good players in my first five matches and lost all 5 placement matches. Now i'm in the bottom division wrecked the first 3 to get to the top of that division now am playing people in the division above trying to get out.

like many video games you have no chance against a top tier player in your first 10 games. But if you work your way up through the ranks you can go much faster. This system does this. You can challenge anyone in a custom match and can just view the ladder ranks to add a friend.

oh ok, as long as you are able to challange people vastly better than you in order to learn technique.

the_big_cheese

2010-06-08 18:56:55

Link

Ko-Tao

2010-06-09 07:38:03

Durrrr wrote:It was blizzards goal in sc2 to eliminate everything random.

Almost sounds too good to be true.

Durrrr wrote:I think there is a full list somewhere on teamliquid, but i'll be banned before i can find it

Ill search. Thanks!