Hl2dm Update bug list

Post all the bugs you find. REAL BUGS. None of this "speed crawling is fuuucked!" shit as that is not a bug. Once everyone feels the list is proper, Ill email it to Mike Durand of Valve, who is in charge of the sdk code. Ill use ghostdogs post over on the steam forums as a platform and he can use this one as well so the lists are the same and Valve can confirm both lists from there and the one I send. All bugs need to be confirmed by more then one player to make this list.


Too many vertex format changes in frame, whole world not rendered
I get this error filling my console and my game runs like a slideshow when I move, not when standing still using mouse look. -ghostdog(needs confirmed)

Crouch/sprint delay
It is a bug with sprinting after you leave a crouch. Stop crouching / press sprint and it makes the sprint noise but dosn't increase your speed. (confirmed)

Shotgun reload bug is still present
If you reload the shotgun, switch to another weapon and then switch back to shotgun the reload animation glitches(confirmed)

you CAN still yo-yo... its just more difficult. which may be due to lag issues caused by server update issues. or possibly by linux vs windows timing issues.

Strafe jump has a delay that never existed
After coming to a stop you cannot restart at full velocity like you normally could before the update, not killing advanced movement but severely crippling it.NOTE this is not a complaint about removing speed crouch, bunnyhopping/strafe jumping is all but ruined.

You just have to let go of crouch a second before you think you'll have to restrafe.
Or just not duck at all for short strafes.
The point is, it's an adjustment players have to make, but they haven't made yet so they whine about it. All of the jumps that you used to do can still be done from what I have tested.

Juggling physics is now broken
No longer can you juggle grenades and physics, this was done by firing the prop then "quick switching" to a different weapon then quickly back to your gravity gun and catching the prop before it launched. This was done within half a second at most and this precise play is not possible on the new engine.

Wrong. It's just as easy as before. And to all of the people complaining about delays when switching weapons... wtf are you talking about?

Game play is juddery
Even when FPS is above 200 - 300

Shotgun reload bug is still present
If you reload the shotgun, switch to another weapon and then switch back to shotgun the reload animation glitches

Also has the nade timer changed? it seems to be shorter
And I'm seeing blood splatter when I shot people...is that part of the update or some server plugin?

I can still yoyo, same as before.

Strafe jump has a delay that never existed
After coming to a stop you cannot restart at full velocity like you normally could before the update, not killing advanced movement but severely crippling it.NOTE this is not a complaint about removing speed crouch, bunnyhopping/strafe jumping is all but ruined.

You just have to let go of crouch a second before you think you'll have to restrafe.
Or just not duck at all for short strafes.
The point is, it's an adjustment players have to make, but they haven't made yet so they whine about it. All of the jumps that you used to do can still be done from what I have tested.

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I don't agree that the players should have to adjust the way that they move because of this update. Not being able to sprint from crouched is a major inconvenience for anyone that bhops and Valve should fix this issue.

Strafe jump has a delay that never existed
After coming to a stop you cannot restart at full velocity like you normally could before the update, not killing advanced movement but severely crippling it.NOTE this is not a complaint about removing speed crouch, bunnyhopping/strafe jumping is all but ruined.

You just have to let go of crouch a second before you think you'll have to restrafe.
Or just not duck at all for short strafes.
The point is, it's an adjustment players have to make, but they haven't made yet so they whine about it. All of the jumps that you used to do can still be done from what I have tested.

Juggling physics is now broken
No longer can you juggle grenades and physics, this was done by firing the prop then "quick switching" to a different weapon then quickly back to your gravity gun and catching the prop before it launched. This was done within half a second at most and this precise play is not possible on the new engine.

Wrong. It's just as easy as before. And to all of the people complaining about delays when switching weapons... wtf are you talking about?

Yeah the strafe jump delay isnt a bug. Its a fix I believe. I think it's related to the fix for the speed crouching bug, so that one is removed from teh list. Ive also removed the physics juggling for now until more info is presented. It is possible that it is also a fix via Orange Box engine. People are gonna have to realize that the new engine doesnt have any of the old bugs and glitches and a lot of things considered "normal" were not. There are certainly some bugs, but most of the chatter is based on update shock.

Shotgun reload bug is still present

Can someone confirm this?

you ppl are unbelievable lmao
http://www.hl2dm-university.com/forum/p ... f=6&t=5349

They probably just didnt find your thread valar.

As for the sprint issue being removed from your list.....THATS INSANE.

THAT SHOULD BE THE NUMBER 1 THING ON THE LIST. People will not continue to play this game unless the movement gets fixed. End of story.

As for the sprint issue being removed from your list.....THATS INSANE.

THAT SHOULD BE THE NUMBER 1 THING ON THE LIST. People will not continue to play this game unless the movement gets fixed. End of story.

+1

you ppl are unbelievable lmao
http://www.hl2dm-university.com/forum/p ... f=6&t=5349

what does a wishlist have to do with the current bugs for the update? This is more of a list to just get the game working properly. I like your list though and didnt see it lol.

They probably just didnt find your thread valar.

As for the sprint issue being removed from your list.....THATS INSANE.

THAT SHOULD BE THE NUMBER 1 THING ON THE LIST. People will not continue to play this game unless the movement gets fixed. End of story.

I wouldnt call it a sprint issue as I can hold in the sprint key and it works just fine lol. This is probably more of a "want" then a bug. It is quite possible that it boils down to speed crawling being an exploit and perhaps the bhop issue was also a part of that exploit. It is technically fixed now since the engine prevents it. So, technically, it isnt a bug. It is more of a removal that needs added back in.

People will not continue to play this game unless the movement gets fixed. End of story.

Then they're missing out because hitreg is 100x better along with dozens of other bugs fixed.
Hey for all I know crouch sprinting could have been part of why hitboxes were so f'ed up in the first place.
I'll still play, I'm loving all of the little things like the fixed burning animation on barrels and not getting stuck on lifts.

They probably just didnt find your thread valar.

As for the sprint issue being removed from your list.....THATS INSANE.

THAT SHOULD BE THE NUMBER 1 THING ON THE LIST. People will not continue to play this game unless the movement gets fixed. End of story.

I wouldnt call it a sprint issue as I can hold in the sprint key and it works just fine lol. This is probably more of a "want" then a bug. It is quite possible that it boils down to speed crawling being an exploit and perhaps the bhop issue was also a part of that exploit. It is technically fixed now since the engine prevents it. So, technically, it isnt a bug. It is more of a removal that needs added back in.

Sprint has worked like that for the majority the game has been released now it doesnt work and hasnt worked for 2 days It hink tis safe to say that is not normal, also it is possible to have sprint as it used to be i.e activated when you let go of duck and still not enable vent sliding. AG2 worked like this in 1.0, 1.02 added back the vent slide.

I highly doubt Valve went in and said " we gotta fix this whole speed crouching exploit at any expense" and then proceeded to do so at the expense of the sprint function because speed crouching was such a huge exploit that needed fixing. This is nothing more than a quick port over to OBE that created several things people were not expecting nor wanting to happen, things Valve likely does not even care about nor are likely to fix in my opinion.

Sub Zero has been working on his OBE mod for a long time now, taking community input the whole time and continues to listen and refine his mod to suit what this community wants to this day.

WTF is wrong with all of you? Who even cares what Valve is doing at this point? Valve will never listen to the competitive community and respond with fixes that we want in a timely matter, so why even bother with them when we have someone who has made a mod that has addressed every issue this community has ever brought up.

Valve just killed the game for good with this update, I do not ever expect them to fix it the way we want and thats not just a pessimistic view it's reality.

It's time to move on people, if you want to play the game we love you all are going to have to play a mod and not valves POS port over crap. I mean seriously no alpha nor beta, no input from the players, no response to what people have stated since the update released what else would you expect from Valve when they dont care about a game.

Support Sub Zeros mod and have the real thing plus real support.

BTW whats happening with eFPS now that the "official" game is ruined and likely won't be fixed anytime soon?

I highly doubt Valve went in and said " we gotta fix this whole speed crouching exploit at any expense" and then proceeded to do so at the expense of the sprint function because speed crouching was such a huge exploit that needed fixing. This is nothing more than a quick port over to OBE that created several things people were not expecting nor wanting to happen, things Valve likely does not even care about nor are likely to fix in my opinion.

Sub Zero has been working on his OBE mod for a long time now, taking community input the whole time and continues to listen and refine his mod to suit what this community wants to this day.

WTF is wrong with all of you? Who even cares what Valve is doing at this point? Valve will never listen to the competitive community and respond with fixes that we want in a timely matter, so why even bother with them when we have someone who has made a mod that has addressed every issue this community has ever brought up.

Valve just killed the game for good with this update, I do not ever expect them to fix it the way we want and thats not just a pessimistic view it's reality.

It's time to move on people, if you want to play the game we love you all are going to have to play a mod and not valves POS port over crap. I mean seriously no alpha nor beta, no input from the players, no response to what people have stated since the update released what else would you expect from Valve when they dont care about a game.

Support Sub Zeros mod and have the real thing plus real support.

BTW whats happening with eFPS now that the "official" game is ruined and likely won't be fixed anytime soon?

Dont troll this thread please. Bugs only.

I agree with the others that the crouch and sprint delay should be included in the bug list. I use someone elses post on steam forums that best explains it.

Just want to point out that the bug with bunnyhopping has nothing to do with bunnyhoppng itself.. it is a bug with sprinting after you leave a crouch. Stop crouching / press sprint and it makes the sprint noise but dosn't increase your speed.
Obviously this messes pepople up that go to strafe jump after an overbounce/asshop, or crouch jump over a railing etcetc. But to try and put it into perspective for all you people that don't use advanced movement...
After you've been crouched in a corner with your pistol out pro css style, you get your super awesome pistol headshots then you wanna run on to the next corner... After you stand back up sprint will fail to work. Needs a fix imo.

so from advance player and complete novice this needs fixing. A majority of the community have a problem with this and if this is sorted would be huge help.

This bug list is pointless with someone like Sacrifist moderating it.

I'm out.

This bug list is pointless with someone like Sacrifist moderating it.

I'm out.

Why? Because Im being comepletely unbiased? I dont like no speed crouch either. It completely ruins my movement. I just wanna see more info on it before adding it. So far, Ive seen more info as to why it isnt a bug then info on it being a bug. SND's quote is good enough for me though so it'll be added.

you ppl are unbelievable lmao
http://www.hl2dm-university.com/forum/p ... f=6&t=5349

what does a wishlist have to do with the current bugs for the update? This is more of a list to just get the game working properly. I like your list though and didnt see it lol.

you'd better off read that post mate.
first line reads:
"I'm compiling a wish+buglist to send to Valve re the upcoming HL2DM post to OB."

I suggest, since what's going on there is quite solid, to continue adding bugs in there. once done you and I can compile a comprehensive list and shoot it to Valve.
works?

you ppl are unbelievable lmao
http://www.hl2dm-university.com/forum/p ... f=6&t=5349

what does a wishlist have to do with the current bugs for the update? This is more of a list to just get the game working properly. I like your list though and didnt see it lol.

you'd better off read that post mate.
first line reads:
"I'm compiling a wish+buglist to send to Valve re the upcoming HL2DM post to OB."

I suggest, since what's going on there is quite solid, to continue adding bugs in there. once done you and I can compile a comprehensive list and shoot it to Valve.
works?

Yeah, I read the first line. It doesnt matter to me. Whatever you guys wanna do. Make sure all your stuff is still valid as I'm pretty sure vtf 7.4 works. At least it works for the custom map thumbnails I made.

hell yeah! vtf v7.4 works and particles work man! it's pure bliss. that's awesome.

hell yeah! vtf v7.4 works and particles work man! it's pure bliss. that's awesome.

Now get on your list so we can get this thing the way it needs to be. To Be Continued isnt going to cut it lol

OP updated now
http://www.hl2dm-university.com/forum/p ... &sk=t&sd=a

posted on http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/s ... 867&page=2 (ghostdog's thread)
This was also sent to he hlmappers list