cod:bo... the shitstorm

so, glad ive waited so far.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/210293/c ... views.html

and the official cod:bo forums???



lol

Aaprently the "lag" is due to all the servers set to sv_maxrate 5000 and is fixable by changing to the magic number of 25000 now i knwo its a heavily modified quake 3 engine but surely still needs more than that?
http://bashandslash.com/index.php?optio ... Itemid=131

Now all of the ignorant upstarts will spout about how "dedicated servers fail" and "IWNET WUZ BETTEH"


The botching about the textures being worse than MW2 is moot, this is what happens when console porters are supported.

pic extremely fucking related

Activision / Treyarch / IW

All of the above aren't known to really care about their fanbase, idk why people are rushing to pre-order... oh wait yea because if they start playing late everyone's gonna be rockign the lvl 60 guns.... brb playing WoW

This is the most truthful review of the game.
http://www.destructoid.com/review-call- ... 6908.phtml

I played it for sometime and I do agree underneath all the lag there is a very good co-op and multiplayer which is the most balanced COD yet. Treyarch did say they had a dedicated dev team but it mainly comes down to them not releasing a beta and properly testing it out of a controlled environment (LAN). I am sure they would of done a beta but I am guessing the PR department of Activision prevented that since beta can deflate hype. Heres hoping they patch this up good.

Amazing. How did they let this one out of the box so fucked up!?!?
That is just incompetent.
Stalker, developed in Russia, i could almost understand, but COD!?
COD?
Inexcusable.

(someone post here when they straighten it all out please,lol)

The Argumentalizer wrote:Amazing. How did they let this one out of the box so fucked up!?!?
That is just incompetent.
Stalker, developed in Russia, i could almost understand, but COD!?
COD?
Inexcusable.

(someone post here when they straighten it all out please,lol)

seriously? you played MW2 right? besides IW/treyarch could take a shit in a box, mail it to activision, have activision make 10 million DNA replicas of the shit, box it, advertise it as mr. hanky with a gun and the mindless COD drones would line the streets for the midnight release.

I never played MW2. I was thinking more COD and 2, which had brilliant single players.
Also, i was thinking how they screwed it up for PC. Those games were made for PC, not console.

Hmmm i installed and played it just now, and aside from the dxissue which is easily solvable by reinstalling dx, the only other prob was blurring wen shooting guys, at first i thought it was a memory flashback type effect thing, though it makes it hard to aim, but then i noticed moving artifacts n shit /shrugs.
Aside from that i was happy with the way it performed, it has an option for refresh rate which is allways nice, it seemed to be well optimised for sli, and supported sli AA perfectly.

Screenshot(1920x1080@32xq sli AA)

God bless the torrents

Even tho the game had some lag issues (both in sp and mp) and some glitches I found the game to be really enjoyable. Do not read the spoiler part if you hate reading spoilers.

Once a patch is released it will be great to play in mp lag free. I'm a big mp fan, but I'm always down for a good sp story. I think the main goal of Treyarch was just trying to do what Infinity Ward did at their scale, and they did it. So success to them. One thing is for shure, this game is waaaaay better than Medal of Honor. I'm not a COD or MOH fan, but after the last MOH and now Black Ops I'm leaning toward COD as the go to series. The big thing that pissed me off about both MOH and COD:BO is they both had INVISIBLE FREAKING WALLS! WHAT THE CRAP! I hate invisible walls...it just makes any game feel more like your a rat in a maze (which you are anyway) but at least don't make it so obvious. Zombies was fun, loved the ending with the special characters you get to play as, they say some funny stuff.

That's my 2 cents.



*SPOILER*
It was like the gameplay from mw2, story characters from World at War come back, and the trippyness of Shutter Island.
*SPOILER!*

NO fucking quickscoping, when you're trying to do it, it's like trying to shoot with an awp without scoping in cs:s, totaly inacurate, those bastard patched it.

Here's the first sniping montage of black ops BEFORE the patch.


Link

Montage?

Your 360 is calling.

woot, was able to play it with sli 64xq AA, with decent frame rates.

Screenshot:

By the time this thread is over, the next CoD will be released...

Rush game--> create hype -->release --> fix major bugs -->plan a sequel -->repeat

Im sure this will get game of the year instead of sc2 because mowing ppl down with a famas is much easier than building scv's

Viperbird wrote:Im sure this will get game of the year instead of sc2 because mowing ppl down with a famas is much easier than building scv's

Not hardly, its just because FPS games are way better than anything else.

Da1 wrote:

Viperbird wrote:Im sure this will get game of the year instead of sc2 because mowing ppl down with a famas is much easier than building scv's

Not hardly, its just because FPS games are way better than anything else.

idk about that Dal. that is a matter of opinion. FPS games do have a bigger following than say, a strategy game, but that doesnt make them better. ill 100% agree with viper, BO will most likely get GOTY if that award is based on unit sales, and thats just sad. noob friendly FPS games are a dime a dozen, and big money makers. the more complex and complicated you make a game the less sales you will get. ive been really into Demon's Souls. IMO, this game should be a requirement for anybody who calls themselves a gamer. i would love to see some of these idiot BO players give Demon's SOuls a go and see how they do.

Godamit use thumbnails.

Dal U need to get SC2

Every game that comes out now has problems. Every one has an update within 24-48 hours. BFBC2, MOH, CODBO. They always catch something too late to fix before shipping and its easier just to patch. Ive been playing it for a few hours. The game feels alot like COD5 in terms of the movement, animation. The maps are awesome, well thought out, detailed and good size. The weapons system is also very good. Hit reg also seems right on. Now that the server lag is largely fixed, the more I play it the better I like it and the more I enjoy it.

keefy wrote:Godamit use thumbnails.

lawl, i'd rather make u suffer a little.

Pernicious wrote:

keefy wrote:Godamit use thumbnails.

lawl, i'd rather make u suffer a little.

why use thumbnails when you have an option in the opera browser to add a single button that fits pages to width of your screen??

Paradox wrote:Every game that comes out now has problems. Every one has an update within 24-48 hours. BFBC2, MOH, CODBO. They always catch something too late to fix before shipping and its easier just to patch. Ive been playing it for a few hours. The game feels alot like COD5 in terms of the movement, animation. The maps are awesome, well thought out, detailed and good size. The weapons system is also very good. Hit reg also seems right on. Now that the server lag is largely fixed, the more I play it the better I like it and the more I enjoy it.

im surprised you got this para. even more surprised you gave it possitive remarks.

Good Lord, it says BOps needs 24 gigs download HDD space!??

After my double Seagate 1tb Barracuda debacle, which are now expensive book ends, i don't even have enough space to DL the damned thing. Must be a sign. Maybe i'll wait till the Christmas Harddrive elf to visit and then wait a little to see if the game sticks.

I would like to see some comments from folks here about what they like or don't.

The Argumentalizer wrote:Good Lord, it says BOps needs 24 gigs download HDD space!??

After my double Seagate 1tb Barracuda debacle, which are now expensive book ends, i don't even have enough space to DL the damned thing. Must be a sign. Maybe i'll wait till the Christmas Harddrive elf to visit and then wait a little to see if the game sticks.

I would like to see some comments from folks here about what they like or don't.

ya, this sounds like a bunch of horse shit to me. wtf is 8gigs of installed files? how do you DL installed files, that makes no sense. that whole thing screams shady to me.

*Call of Duty®: Black Ops requires an initial hard drive space of approximately 24GB to download and install the game via digital download (8GB of compressed files, 8GB of decompressed files and 8GB of installed files). Upon installing the game, 16GB (compressed and decompressed files) may be deleted from the hard drive. Please make note of where the compressed and decompressed files are being saved on your hard drive in order to later locate these temporary files for removal.

If I could get it to run good on my aging dual core sli rig I would probably give it good rep.
I cant seem to get more than about 30 fps on this older machine (x2 4800) i'm reworking my water system on my I7 atm so hopefully that will improve.
However
Like Paradox said the level designs are good, the game play seems like it could be good if it was not for the lag and other issues.
The FOV and the mouse input lag is just as bad as it was in MW2

Yeah, i'm afraid my X2 6400 and 8800GTS will vomit up that game.

players/config.cfg:
r_multithreaded_device change to 1 for multicore
r_multiGpu change to 0 for single videocard with single GPU
Helped me to get rid of most freezes

Another minor annoyance.

Pernicious wrote:Another minor annoyance.

is that a play on words? minor? minority?

the black man in the pic?

u fuckin racist.

I am an Aboriginal who hates African Americans.
They think they are sooo kool.

CellarDweller wrote:

Pernicious wrote:Another minor annoyance.

is that a play on words? minor? minority?

the black man in the pic?

u fuckin racist.

I thought he is refering to the fact that he isnt using THUMBNAILS damit.

It would seem to be the inside of C130 but what the hell is that at the ramp?

The Argumentalizer wrote:Yeah, i'm afraid my X2 6400 and 8800GTS will vomit up that game.

My qq6600 and 8800gts run the game fine.



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how many fps can you get with that card Bad?

{EE}chEmicalbuRn wrote:

Paradox wrote:Every game that comes out now has problems. Every one has an update within 24-48 hours. BFBC2, MOH, CODBO. They always catch something too late to fix before shipping and its easier just to patch. Ive been playing it for a few hours. The game feels alot like COD5 in terms of the movement, animation. The maps are awesome, well thought out, detailed and good size. The weapons system is also very good. Hit reg also seems right on. Now that the server lag is largely fixed, the more I play it the better I like it and the more I enjoy it.

im surprised you got this para. even more surprised you gave it possitive remarks.

lol? Lets face it HL2DM is dead and there will not be another game like it. I had to find another game that I enjoyed so Ive been buying alot of new games lately. Its a better game than MOH (which I think kinda sucks) and I have played COD4 and 5 quite a bit. I also thought that BFBC2 is a great game. I think this is the best COD of all 3 (COD 4, 5, BO) because the maps are better than COD4 overall and because of all the game modes it has. I also like the COD credit system so you can choose the weapons you like.

DIE_bastards wrote:players/config.cfg:
r_multithreaded_device change to 1 for multicore
r_multiGpu change to 0 for single videocard with single GPU
Helped me to get rid of most freezes

r_multithreaded_device --- in console the description states ---- create a virtual d3d device


how does that correlate to multi-cores?

seems like it would have to do with those older CPU's that emulate a 2nd core - something legacy from the q3 engine perhaps? thus why it's disabled? when I turned it on, it did absolutely nothing. no fps gain, no lag gain, no cpu usage gain. nadda. placebo in effect right about now.

can anyone verify exactly what that description could relate to?

as far as everyones issue in the game - no clue. worked great from day 1 for me and most I know, aside from the server rate which no one on the steam forums seemed to believe for the longest time. gtx260 pulling 70-140 all day long . cpu usage on 4 core averaging 40% from day 1.

people have bad hardware,thats my conclusion.

@ conflict - Treyarch had amazing support on WaW - free map packs and 7 huge patches, mod support/tools. Seems like a step above the IW. They might not be the best in the biz, but IMO they are a PC developer.

and for those who cry about console ports - its smart business and if u were an exec. you would do it to. It only makes sense to code something now days that can easily be swaped to consoles and pc .
what you need to cry about is the shitty interns they have doing the porting, not the fact that is playable on 3 different systems. specifics are key, general statements make it look like you read to much from the steam forums and are jumping on the band wagon.

also, im sure most of u researched it a bit, but here are few commands for helping the games netcode along.

cl_maxpackets - default cant remember, was low though. 100 is max.

snaps - set to 30 - default 20 snaps are wut u are getting from server.

cl_maxppf - max packets per frame - set mine to 10, default is 5.

cg_drawFPS 1

dont forget your \ in console. or u will look like a tool ingame.
in menu - u don't need the \

for window 7 users and windows vista users -

Im to lazy to find the link again. but google windows 7/vista networkthrottle registry
apparently a ms service stops your packets quite a bit, some games override it IMO, while others dont it seems.
I modified my reg entry and my ping drop roughly 10 ms to chicago in BlackOps. Sitting at 35-40 now, even though it should be 25-35.

I always forget the \ for quake enging games. Quakelive added a CVAR for it so the old schoolers can have it as it used to be.

@para, i just meant you are really into BFBC2. BO is so far from that game in so many ways, i didnt think you would be into it. Also i have no idea how you(and anybody else) cant like MOH. that game is AMAZING.

not sure how you can say the game worked great for you from day one Rach. something caused you to make those netcode tweaks.

neo sent me a youtube link of some guy playing the cuba mission? on its hardest level? the dude fired his 9mm twice. thats it. mission completed. im guessing that was sp? with AI team mates? seemed a bit redonkulous.

i'm thinking this is more like a movie with "some" interaction optional. im still not impressed enough to fork over 60 bucks.

Torrents, for all those things u wouldnt buy anyway.

I have thunk about buyign this not because I think ti will be great but becasue alot of my Steam friends play it. I think it is how games like this get popular, people play it because people play it to have people to play with due to so many playign it they have no peopel to play with so they are almost forced to buy and play it just to have some people to play with.
Same thing with CS its sefl perpetuating although with COD they have a shelf life, look at MW2 now, has alsmot half that of CS since BO came out.

keefy wrote: I think it is how games like this get popular, people play it because people play it to have people to play with due to so many playign it they have no peopel to play with so they are almost forced to buy and play it just to have some people to play with.

lmao, best sentance ever bro.

EDIT:

and you're 100% correct about why this game is popular

I was going for something like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx6peucST28&t=29

{EE}chEmicalbuRn wrote: Also i have no idea how you(and anybody else) cant like MOH. that game is AMAZING.

hmm yea the game sucks donkey balls. Maps are too small and spawns are extremely retarded. I get more kills/deaths from spawn camping than from actually playing the game.

Still really love BFBC2 and liking COD BO more and more. I got turned back onto COD4 when I tried S&D and their version of conquest and found it alot of fun.

CellarDweller wrote:not sure how you can say the game worked great for you from day one Rach. something caused you to make those netcode tweaks.

Yeah I changed it because the servers feel like dog crap. Just like WaW. At game launch they were barely feeding you a 56k connection.

It's the same as DM - you would like optimal packets/registry. That is all. Now if only I could alias rates to weapons.....

Don't see any dumbed down GFX settings in that post...

Game overall though feels great. I haven't noticed any improvement with the 2nd patch, but the 1st patch made the game feel faster/smoother.

I was just fortunate and didn't experience any of those FPS drops / high CPU usage as many seemed to have incurred from day 1.

Heres a interesting tidbit for anyone trying to get the game to run better:
xp 32 bit

I been trying everything possible to make the game run smooth and nothing was working for me, best I could get was 10-20 fps stuttery mess on win 7 64 bit.
I booted into xp 32 bit and same machine same settings now its 50-60 fps and smooth for the most part, go figure.

L2k wrote:Heres a interesting tidbit for anyone trying to get the game to run better:
xp 32 bit

I been trying everything possible to make the game run smooth and nothing was working for me, best I could get was 10-20 fps stuttery mess on win 7 64 bit.
I booted into xp 32 bit and same machine same settings now its 50-60 fps and smooth for the most part, go figure.

i dont think thats the intent of "backward compatible" technology.

hahah

Quakelive mocks COD

I just logged in now and saw this but its over wouldnt have minded playing it for the lolz.

DevPick Dec 3-5: TactiQuake

This week's DevPick is another... interesting spin on weapon balance that we're calling TactiQuake. Here's a rundown of the main changes.

* Machinegun Ironsights: Crouch while firing the machinegun to greatly increase accuracy.
* Players spawn with all weapons in CTF.
* Machinegun and Railgun have headshots that do 3x damage.
* No ammo, weapons, or powerups will spawn on the map.
* Falling damage and self damage in CA
* Velocity dampening has been applied to movement and crouch speed.
* Gauntlet: will do 250 damage on hit.
* Machinegun: 20 damage per shot, 60 damage per headshot.
* Grenade Launcher: Splash radius increased to 300, reload time reduced to 1 second.
* Rocket Launcher: Splash radius increased to 300, reload time reduced to 1.5 seconds, damage per rocket is 300.
* Lightning Gun: Damage increased to 15, speed decreased to 200ms, lightning gun cripple effect dramatically increased.
* Railgun: 120 damage, 4 second reload. 360 damage per headshot.
* Plasma Gun: Reload speed decreased to 200ms, splash radius increased to 64 units.


For the most authentic experience, we recommend lowering your cg_fov to 80! Have a great weekend everyone!

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