Heart1ess
2011-05-26 08:12:28
Heart1ess
2011-05-26 08:12:28
provost
2011-05-26 17:36:17
Good vid but I don't get the whole ''I know it's hard to believe but..''Heart1ess wrote:
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Uncle Rico
2011-05-27 00:23:50
Va|iums
2011-05-27 00:37:05
I think you mean to say this has happened for the entire history of the world for humans.provost wrote:Good vid but I don't get the whole ''I know it's hard to believe but..''
You gotta be seriously dumb to believe something like going to war for the interest of oneself isn't happening.
Mongols back in 1200's were doing it and they sure weren't the first.
The Argumentalizer
2011-05-27 02:05:50
Sacrifist
2011-05-27 02:20:23
The Argumentalizer
2011-05-27 04:37:21
Sacrifist
2011-05-27 04:44:13
So you dont see any problems with how the current government 2 party system is setup and how much control they have? And dont go saying "it's all the liberals" because it doesnt matter who is in control, they are 1 and the same when it comes to wanting power and control.The Argumentalizer wrote:Yeah CYNICISM.
It's easy to sit there and whine about how fucked up the gubbmint is.
Take a look at your own legislatures to begin with.
Heart1ess
2011-05-27 08:44:40
The Argumentalizer
2011-05-27 10:12:51
Pernicious
2011-05-27 13:28:07
Yea that doesnt make any sense to me either, though wat i think he(ace) getting at is something like this.The Argumentalizer wrote:"All are willing and brought up to do exactly as they are told."
Speak for yourself you crazyass motherfucker.
The Argumentalizer
2011-05-27 19:57:57
ether
2011-05-27 23:44:35
Heart1ess
2011-05-28 04:44:45
Sacrifist
2011-05-28 06:32:11
And exactly who's fault is that? I'll tell you whoThe Argumentalizer wrote:There are many solutions, one is to get the Federal gubbmint out of many things and simplify.
Instead, we pass huge new entitlements.
The Argumentalizer
2011-05-28 07:03:33
Uncle Rico
2011-05-29 18:51:40
Sacrifist
2011-05-29 20:36:52
What I said was that if you were to take Chicago out of Illinois, it would be as red as Kentucky. Bringing Pelosi into the conversation is retarded. She is a puppet. You gonna try to tell us that the size of the government didnt increase with Reagan, Bush, or Bush jr?The Argumentalizer wrote:Your state is overrun with Leftist Democrats. Illinois has top 3 horrible defaulting budget in the country. I remember you said Illinois wasn't liberal. LMAO!
You obviously haven't done much in your own state!
Furthermore, stop talking about huge political parties like everyone within them is the same.
The problem is not 2 Parties or the System.
The problem is folks don't care to be involved in their own school district, nevermind their own state.
Once you get to the Fed, 50 percent could care less.
Also, the GOP didn't pass this horrible huge new entitlement Pelosicare, so this shit about both parties being the same is GARBAGE.
And my beef with folks like Ace is they are always complaining about the greatest place to live and prosper in the world.
Go fucking whine about Pakistan! They are REALLY fucked up.
Joe Rogan is another fucking whiner. Fuck Joe Rogan.
The Argumentalizer
2011-05-30 00:34:21
The Argumentalizer
2011-05-30 00:41:48
Sacrifist
2011-05-30 03:32:32
Jesus, Im in no mood to debate 500 things with you on this cause it would take forever, way to much effort, and it will change neither of our minds lol. Lets just stick to the fact that they are one and the same with the same agendas, cause they are. Here is my question to you. With all these terrible things that the democrats have pushed through to us (and many are terrible), why hasnt the GOP reverted them? Are they incapable of doing so? No, they dont want to because without them they become worthless and unneeded. You seem to forget that I am not a democrat. I want small government and want them to stay the fuck out of my paycheck and my life, but I can not support the current GOP or Dems, as they may have seperate talking points to get votes, their agendas are exactly the same when you filter through all the bullshit. I will say that there are a few here and there that are popping up with the right mindset. Christie is one of them.The Argumentalizer wrote:Pelosi and the Democrats are the Authors of the healthcare bill!. That is why i bring it up. She is no pawn. She is the catalyst. Obama had next to nothing to do with the health care bill.
Which brings up something i should have said a long time ago.
There is NO comparison between the parties. None.
The Democrat Party authored Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, Welfare, All the Depression era Departments and programs, most of the Departments of the Fed. Gubbmint...the new Health Care entitlement...
A liberal court ruled on Roe v Wade.
Liberal Court has stood up Social Security as an unending revenue stream and nothing more.
The entitlement spending is what is threatening this country with bankruptcy.
In regards to spending, creating huge entitlements that grow gubbmint dependency, there is NO comparison between Democrats and the GOP.
THERE, I SAID IT. I challenge anyone to differ on this claim.
The future unfunded Non-Discretionary programs are what has us on a collision course with disaster.
The GOP didn't create ANY of them.
What doesn't threaten America? The wars, which will end and cost less than the Porkulus.
I am sick of nonsense about both parties are exactly the same. Current warring in DC PROVES that is nonsense.
And Illinois has a BIG Problem, not just Chicago. It's ruled by Democrats. They have majorities in both houses of the General Assembly.
And just about the worst budget crisis in the country.
Chicago is a cesspool of Democrat criminals, all with their hands in some till somewhere.
Some folks pay attention to such things. Maybe we could talk about all the Pols going to prison in Chicago!
Pernicious
2011-05-30 03:44:07
Which are unfunded?The Argumentalizer wrote:The future unfunded Non-Discretionary programs are what has us on a collision course with disaster.
The GOP didn't create ANY of them.
Heart1ess
2011-05-30 07:40:57
Va|iums
2011-05-30 10:21:15
Dear diary......Heart1ess wrote:Sacrifist i gave up debating along time ago, sooner or later like myself you realise that people will believe whatever they want to believe.
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Heart1ess
2011-05-30 11:09:19
Va|iums
2011-05-30 11:24:01
Hey ace......Heart1ess wrote:you still barking vals?
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your getting pretty beat up on these forums from what i see
The Argumentalizer
2011-05-31 02:28:18
Pernicious
2011-05-31 03:04:31
lol, ive seen a few videos of republican congressmen lying they asses off in public gatherings in town halls, and getting yelled at as a result, in one case a women was arrested for simply asking a question the guy didnt like. Which is obsurd considering these townhall meetings are usually quite loud apparently, and it didnt even get THAT far.The Argumentalizer wrote:-No differences between the Parties... Bullshit. There are many differences. Spending is just one.
-Nothing a leader can do: Bullshit. Leaders get out there and speak plainly and truthfully to the people, gather support, and change things.
Sacrifist
2011-06-01 06:23:30
......pleaseThe Argumentalizer wrote:Okay, if no one wants to take up their own claims, let's wrap it up with what we know:
-Illinois. Full of leftist Democrats, holding both houses and Chicago, Corrupt as any city/state in the union. Rednaecks outside Chicago? Who cares!? They obviously don't vote or run for office. I mean, they are fucking rednecks!
The Argumentalizer
2011-06-01 08:11:37
Pernicious
2011-06-01 08:28:23
I was calling bullshit on that statement.The Argumentalizer wrote: Leaders get out there and speak plainly and truthfully to the people.
Blasphemy
2011-06-01 11:11:14
Panic
2011-06-01 21:55:34
provost
2011-06-01 23:25:20
The Argumentalizer
2011-06-02 04:09:30
The Argumentalizer
2011-06-02 04:53:39
What an incredible collage! Excellent.Blasphemy wrote:Impala 2012
Va|iums
2011-06-02 06:25:42
roflThe Argumentalizer wrote:What an incredible collage! Excellent.Blasphemy wrote:Impala 2012
If elected, i will immediately work at closing the Depts of Education, Commerce, Transportation, HUD, Energy, and replace some of them with an advisory board plus perhaps a Tech contest to field real hydrogen cares.
Also, there will be no fraudulent Climate Change/Warming nonsense from me. Glaciers and ice melt you dumbasses. If they didn't the world would be one massive ice cube.
I am Impala, and i approve this message.
The Argumentalizer
2011-06-02 15:09:55
Sacrifist
2011-06-03 00:30:28
I agree with about 95% of that. I think you would get assassinated pretty quickly though ...The Argumentalizer wrote:What an incredible collage! Excellent.Blasphemy wrote:Impala 2012
If elected, i will immediately work at closing the Depts of Education, Commerce, Transportation, HUD, Energy, and replace some of them with an advisory board plus perhaps a Tech contest to field real hydrogen cares.
I will slash all other budgets except Defense by 25 percent, although i will bring back everyone in Korea and Europe, end any peace keeping in Bosnia or whatever the fuck, and start to leave Afghanistan, because it's fucking Afghanistan, a shithole that will never work.
I will stop any payments to the states for any reason except disaster and push Medicare to whatever the States want to run.
I will push the Fair Tax and fire the IRS.
I will stop all foreign aid to shitholes who hate us like Pakistan. Fuck Pakistan. And fuck all the Muslims. They can kiss my Pike and Shield.
I will tell the Palestinians to EAT FUCKING SAND you terror bitches.
I will take my first vacation in Israel and hang out with Benjie! He's badass.
I will work to add more restrictions to abortion and defund those Planned Parenthood assholes and those idiots at NPR.
Unions...they will never visit my WH. If Fed. Employees strike, i will fire their ass and put them in the unemployment line with everyone else.
I will work on law to force the Federal Reserve to lend dollars at a constant rate of X percent and use 1 percent to pay down debt every year. The Bank Market will then compete for your loans and stabilize rates.
There will never again be any bailouts of any kind. If you asswipes don't practice risk management and set aside assets to cover your butts, then BYE BYE!
Someone else with sense will pick up the pieces.
I will also kick the shit out the SEC and FCC and bring some sense.
I will fix Fannie Mae somehow. Maybe send them all to GITMO.
Social Security and Medicare WILL have means testing. Multi-millionaires are millionaires. They don't need shit. They are rich.
There will be a reworking of tax exempt health accounts and youngster will be encouraged to buy a high risk low premium policy and pay for their maintenance.
Health care prices will drop if folks BOUGHT the services themselves and stopped clogging ERs for boils and Alcohol poisoning and fricking Colds!
The Poor will have to start making efforts to become unpoor or fuck off. Their lives are their responsibility.
Also, there will be no fraudulent Climate Change/Warming nonsense from me. Glaciers and ice melt you dumbasses. If they didn't the world would be one massive ice cube.
I am Impala, and i approve this message.
Heart1ess
2011-06-06 08:10:53