frag movie

Ghostface Killah

2008-09-10 23:47:36

ok a question is there any possibility to convert a demo in dvd ?? cuz i worked with fraps and that sucks cuz you get small movies from 20 seconds but i want to make a cool dvd so i need to convert the hole demo in 1 time.. does any of you know a good program ?/

Edge

2008-09-10 23:54:05

Wrong section, but in any case you should read holymolys video making guide.

Ghostface Killah

2008-09-11 00:19:21

yeah well im sorry for the wrong section and i saw the video guide.. but its not realy for editing i just want the whole movie from start till end on dvd qaulity to put it on a dvd you know what i mean get the demo put in a program and convert it is that possible ??

Edge

2008-09-11 00:53:55

host_framerate 30; startmovie namehere; playdemo filename

Then port it into virutaldub and mess around with compression stuff. but its not a frag video without editing its just a bunch of demos.

poconut

2008-09-11 00:58:19

A demo isn't a video file, so you'll still need to convert to avi before you can put it on a dvd. Follow the video guide (minus the editing in your case) and just start recording at the beginning and stop at the end. You'll end up with a huge huge file (depending on the length of the demo) so you had better have some free disk space.

Edge

2008-09-11 01:52:24

Yea large isn't an understatement, a full 13 min demo is about 60 gigs of pictures.

0nti

2008-09-11 04:29:07

probably at a nice resolution like 1280x720 it would be around 100 gb or more...

blutonium boy

2008-09-11 20:25:57

i took my fragvid (x264 codec), some others from you guys too ^^ and converted them to dvd. the vids have still great quality and! you can watch them on tv xD. converting was very fast. i used : convert x to dvd

Ghostface Killah

2008-09-11 23:37:28

0nti wrote:probably at a nice resolution like 1280x720 it would be around 100 gb or more...
hmm why is that a whole movie on dvd would be 4gb why would this be 100 ?? im not so good with these things so explain me why..
Edge wrote:host_framerate 30; startmovie namehere; playdemo filename

Then port it into virutaldub and mess around with compression stuff. but its not a frag video without editing its just a bunch of demos.
lol i know i want to watch them on tv and alot of people want to see them its just easy to give them a dvd so they can relax on the sofa smoke a joint and watch and see if they are interested. its not realy to make a cool action video..maybe ill make 1 in the future

Edge

2008-09-11 23:49:05

Ghostface Killah wrote:lol i know i want to watch them on tv and alot of people want to see them its just easy to give them a dvd so they can relax on the sofa smoke a joint and watch and see if they are interested. its not realy to make a cool action video..maybe ill make 1 in the future
Wouldn't you want to show off the best of best in a way to get people intrested? and each .tga file it creates is 2mb, and it creates 60 every second, that's why.

BuckyKatt

2008-09-12 02:46:17

Ghostface Killah wrote:
0nti wrote:probably at a nice resolution like 1280x720 it would be around 100 gb or more...
hmm why is that a whole movie on dvd would be 4gb why would this be 100 ?? im not so good with these things so explain me why..
The 100 GB number is either the uncompressed video or the losslessly compressed video (Huffyuv, Lagarith, etc). Modern lossy video codecs do a rather phenomenal job of converting these massive uncompressed files into something manageable while maintaining decent quality.

DVDs use MPEG-2 compression. DivX or XviD use MPEG-4 ASP (advanced simple profile), a newer standard over MPEG-2. X264 is based on H.264 which is MPEG-4 AVC (Advanced Video Coding) which is newer still.

Edge

2008-09-12 07:53:43

Wrong, the 100 GB Number is the tens of thousands of TGA files (Lossless Image Files) that it creates. He'll still have to take those .tgas and import them into vdub and compile, which will be around 400 megs or more depending on quality.

BuckyKatt

2008-09-12 23:08:09

Actually neither of us are wrong.

I assume that he is wanting to create a DVD (like DVD-Video) of the demo.

You are correct in that he will convert the demo to TGA files. These could easily be 100 GB of TGA files so you are correct.

My assumption though is that he will take those 100 GB of TGA files, run them through vdub to create an uncompressed avi. This uncompressed avi will also be nearly 100 GB (a little more cause it will also have the wav audio in it) which is what I was referring to.

I would always suggest the first conversion out of vdub from the TGAs should be uncompressed. It gives you many more options. If you compress it right away and then later need to recompress it (say from ASP to AVC) you start losing quality quickly.

From there he will take the uncompressed avi and then use something (whether it be Premiere, Vegas, or any number of other cheaper tools) to author a DVD (MPEG-2 stored in VOBs).

Ghostface Killah

2008-09-13 00:28:20

Edge wrote:Wouldn't you want to show off the best of best in a way to get people intrested? and each .tga file it creates is 2mb, and it creates 60 every second, that's why.
no man cuz it would take me alot of time for editing and stuff like that.. and its just to show the gamplay

oh and i understand it would give me 100 gb of tga files but after converting it like buckycatt explaind to divx or mpeg than it would still be 100 gb?? cant i convert just like a dvd movie like 1 and a half our of film and it would be 4 gb ?? cuz a movie is also 4 gb am i right ??

and buckycat a question wich program should i use for converting ?? maybe you got some links for me ??

BuckyKatt

2008-09-13 02:28:10

Like Edge said do this in console:

host_framerate 30; startmovie namehere; playdemo filename

This will create a bunch of TGA files and a wav file in your hl2dm folder.

Now use VirtualDub to open the first TGA. This will actually open the entire series of TGA files. Under the Video menu set Frame Rate to 30 fps. Under the Audio menu select Audio From Other File and find the wav file that was create in your hl2dm folder and change the mode to full Processing Mode. Now go to File and select Save As AVI.

Basically you are following step 4 in this guide:

http://www.hl2dm-university.com/forum/p ... f=13&t=917

From here if you are wanting free tools to assemble the DVD you could try the following this guide:

http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive ... vi2dvd.cfm

It makes use of AVI2DVD which is free.

You could also just author the dvd in something like Premiere (Elements) or any one of the Sony Vegas products. All you would really be doing is dropping the avi on the timeline and then selecting Render to DVD.

That will get you a VIEDO_TS folder that you can then burn onto the DVD using anything like Nero or Roxio or whatever.

Ghostface Killah

2008-09-15 22:45:11

thnx man tomorow im back from a 2 weeks work and ill give this a try

hope it works :)

BuckyKatt

2008-09-16 00:05:55

Keep in mind that if DVD is your final target then you only need your resolution set to 720x480 (NTSC, use this if you are in the US) or 720x576 (PAL). Also, the typical frame rate on a DVD is 29.97 fps.

It may make your life easier if you just set hl2dm to the correct resolution (720x480) and frame rate (host_framerate 29.97) from the start.

Nutri-Grain

2008-09-16 02:42:37

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Kornography

2008-09-16 17:58:12

lol i have only 100gb HD :)

ok sry for offtopic!

BuckyKatt

2008-09-16 18:29:06

Nutri-Grain wrote:13 min is 60 gigs? whaaaaaa. i have like over 400 gigs of avi :D lol. i guess ill just use them for different videos :)
If those 13 minutes are uncompressed video at 1280x720 then yes... easily 60 GB. Now, once you run it through XviD or x.264 then it will be more like 300-500 MB.

0nti

2008-09-18 05:38:33

in my case, 10 (almost 11) minutes were 80 gb @ 1280x768, but that's the final render, single frag clips will always be bigger... besides you sometimes end up not using some stuff, or just cutting whole sections of some and whatever...
those 400 gb you have will easily enter in 20 minutes if you ask me (or even less, who knows...)

Edge

2008-09-18 06:31:41

Except they plan on just using whole demos into a long movie of gameplay.