MY first frag movie- UNDERCOVER

Hello!

I've seen a lot of great videos like unwonted 2,addicted to kill2 by perfect gamers,and I decided to make one.
I tried out Sony Vegas before,but I couldn't do anything with it.But now, I did something.I made my first fragmovie,on my own.
I've tried to make the editing good,I put in some classic frags that from 1on1s,2on2s,3on3s and cu wars.

so, i dont need say more, hope you can enjoy my first frag movie;D not the best i think but good luck x)
-scaryboy


FPS @ 30
LENGHT: 6:18

USED PROGRAM:

CORELDRAW X4
Photoshop
sony vegas pro 8


Music:

Sonic mayhem rage
NIN 1,000,000
POD if it wasnt for you

Thanks to:

-badfeeling
-shunnyboy
-MY CLAN!
-zidar
-darksoul
-Darkhead
-freestyle


HF;D

dowload link: http://www.2shared.com/file/4710643/62a ... COVER.html

I usually don't comment on videos and dislike it when I read negative comments, but since I wasted my time/bandwidth downloading this I feel as if I have some right... First of all what's with all the spawn kills? If you're going to make a video to showcase your skills then at least show that you have some skill, not make a video with about 20 spawn kills in it, they're all really really really lame and boring.

The first section reminds me of watching an old VHS with the extreme brightness/blurriness and the tracking going funny every minute, pretty poor use of effects. There is no consistency either, every section seems to look different, at some points is looked like Aim was full bright

Did you really need to add that RPG kill against Luke? or did you just add it because it was Luke? I know it was round a corner (kind of) but to anyone that's seen Blow Away this is nothing.

Sorry if this is all a bit harsh, but I after seeing Onti's and SW's videos I expect something a little more creative and this just didn't do it for me.

And the nodding with the mouse... sigh!

Jelly Fox wrote:And the nodding with the mouse... sigh!

I do that :/ in a friendly way

Jelly Fox wrote:I usually don't comment on videos and dislike it when I read negative comments, but since I wasted my time/bandwidth downloading this I feel as if I have some right... First of all what's with all the spawn kills? If you're going to make a video to showcase your skills then at least show that you have some skill, not make a video with about 20 spawn kills in it, they're all really really really lame and boring.

The first section reminds me of watching an old VHS with the extreme brightness/blurriness and the tracking going funny every minute, pretty poor use of effects. There is no consistency either, every section seems to look different, at some points is looked like Aim was full bright

Did you really need to add that RPG kill against Luke? or did you just add it because it was Luke? I know it was round a corner (kind of) but to anyone that's seen Blow Away this is nothing.

Sorry if this is all a bit harsh, but I after seeing Onti's and SW's videos I expect something a little more creative and this just didn't do it for me.

would have to aggree with jelly's comment 100%, the aim spawn killing was stupid, not sure why you would put that in a frag vid. the rest was just meh, after all the frag vids, seeing the same types of kills(xbow bank shots, rpg round the corner shots) this didnt stand out much. 2 things i did like tho. 1-the rpg shot on aim that bounced the mag right to you, (assuming that was an accident) 2-you rocked NIN.

EDIT:

cba

It was your first video. The editing wasn't great. Some of the frags were not so great. We didn't need to see so many spawn kills. A couple here and there is fine if you do something after the spawn kill like in a 2v2.

Quite a few decent frags in this video I thought. But c'mon what's with the constant effects, are we watching a frag video or are we tripping acid? I can barely see what's going on sometimes.

Trompe-la-Mort wrote:Quite a few decent frags in this video I thought. But c'mon what's with the constant effects, are we watching a frag video or are we tripping acid? I can barely see what's going on sometimes.

He must have went to shunnyboys school of over effects

Constructive critisism coming!
-don't use the clockwise transition on a black background as u did several times
-@ 0:33 you can see the xbow upside down (demo bug). You gotta delete that frame on virtual dub or sony vegas.
-Be careful with the color settings you use. Many frags were either too dark or too brigtful, making it hard to enjoy the video.
-Don't change between song with the black background and such big pauses!
-between 1:15 and 1:23, u did a smooth on lockdown and later showed a frag on aim arena. That has no coherence. It would have worked much better if you smoothed around aim arena and ended up reaching the same place where you were in aim, and transitioning from the smooth to first person.
-Don't use that wave effect on frags (which u overused btw).
-I like spawn kills, cuz I really never learnt the spawn points and I tend to remember them when I see them on a video ;P , however, they would have fit so much better if you speeded them up and synced them with the music.
-in the song "if it wasn't for you", every strong "you" on the chorus should be synced to something! You only did that on the first one with a mag shot, which is slightly out of sync btw ;P

Understand I gotta tell you all this to help you improve, don't take it wrong.
See my lsd video, compared to my last one is a complete disaster, but hey! that's how you learn :>
Some pretty good shots on the video, you just need to present them better
Learn masking! it's really important. Here you go http://www.infprod.com/index.php?site=t ... orialsID=8
And well I'm on a trip and I gotta return to my house now, so that's all you get from me hahaah. Later ^_^

Ahm, hello again

Sorry guys (( i was very amatuer at frag movie making, onty ive lost you from friends list lol, i try to add you but this is the problem : "This user's profile settings prevent you from contacting them at this time." its like you blocked me ? lol

Btw i will create my second video, i know what i need fix now, and onty thanks about the masking, i will use it

Bye

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So you'd prefer it if I bit my tongue and said something generic like "Cool vid, 8/10 " as most people do? I said sorry if I was harsh and all my comments were justified, now scaryboy knows where he's gone wrong he can improve on them in his next video. win win

and btw I also liked the RPG shot to get the mag on Aim :

Nutri-Grain wrote:Gah, I feel so bad for this kid...haha.

Onty is good at telling him what he needs to fix without being a douche-bag...some of you other guys...i dunno. Scary put alot of his time into this vidoe, and just because he may have gotten ahead of himself in the effect department, doesn't mean that he should be lol'd at. Nice try man, I'm sure that your second video will be much better

Also, any of you people that have never tried to make a frag video, but like to make fun of any videos that aren't Onty quality can stick your douche-bag remarks up your goatse asses.

I'm horrible at making stuff look good and the only thing that saves my vids from being complete waste of time is the somewhat humourous content. Making good vid is damn tough, kudos onty you're one good helper

lol i must be retarded cause I cant seem to get the download to work. is something supposed to pop up asking me if i want to download when i click the link? is there something im not seeing? cause it sure as hell aint downloading.

Yeah you may want to upload somewhere else, I tried and it said some limit had been exceeded and to try later.

under "File URL" theres a link that says:
Save file to your PC

.conflict wrote:


I'm horrible at making stuff look good and the only thing that saves my vids from being complete waste of time is the somewhat humourous content. Making good vid is damn tough, kudos onty you're one good helper

Aha, but you're the king of the anti-frag video. You used Elvis Presley! By the outset you prohibited any kind of syncing, any kind of coherance with the music. That was like art, man.

Omg I cant say how much Im disgusted to see so many bad and hard comments about your vid scaryboy

All these guys are just fucking bored of everything. And lol, each time they see a new post they hope to see THE hl2 movie of the year. But sorry guys but with the very good ones we had like unwonted 2 or addicted to kill 2 or also the SW's one, now its gonna be really rare. You really expect too much ^^


And well I post here cuz I did a HL2 vid one day (which is on the site btw) and I know some comments are from players who did 1 too, but Im not sure its the case for everybody. So bad comments from lazy guys who do nothing except bringing their stupid comments like "omg I have wasted my time" (whereas the guy lose 50 hr / week on HL2) or "omg I have wasted my bandwith" (whereas their internet provider make them pay the same ammount of money each month cuz it doesnt depend on bandwith in most of the countries). Well all that make me laugh when I realise how stupid it is and all that make me not laught when finally I see some good frags, a vid which is made for fun and manage to do it, a work behind too, but so fucking sensless comments disrespectful after.


So yes man your vid is not the best ever seen. But you already know it. But I dont have any shame to say its a good one. I appreciate it. Ok the wave effect is used too much time but there was some good ideas and nice frags. I appreaciated the kill with the 357 which was just thrown previously at you. Excellent 1. I appreciated the good serie of HS at a moment too. And the respowns are not boring at all, they just prove how much you know the maps.


/P!raT\ **DDF**
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HL2 Player for 3 years
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PS : and I prefer a little vid like that, which is released, that a supposed good one foreseen from half a year and never released.... Dont you agree, SND ?? :]

I'd rather see a frag vid with awesome frags and hardly any editing than a shit frag movie with good editing.

Deathwish wrote:I'd rather see a frag vid with awesome frags and hardly any editing than a shit frag movie with good editing.

well my next video will be like that

Dark Files 2 is coming Doodz!! hope to finish it next month

ohh cant wait it dark files2 yay!

**DDF** wrote:Omg I cant say how much Im disgusted to see so many bad and hard comments about your vid scaryboy

All these guys are just fucking bored of everything. And lol, each time they see a new post they hope to see THE hl2 movie of the year. But sorry guys but with the very good ones we had like unwonted 2 or addicted to kill 2 or also the SW's one, now its gonna be really rare. You really expect too much ^^

Not everyone is hard on people's frag vids. It can be discouraging at times, but it is also good to get honest feedback sometimes, even if it is hard to hear. The nature of this forum is one where we try to make better frag videos, so you kind of have to have thick skin in order to post your movie here.

I thought your movie was pretty good DDF, I wouldn't have uploaded it otherwise, and it had some unique elements in it. The idea is not to get upset, but to take the criticism in stride and go away and make an even better video (assuming you plan to make more than one).

Walking Target wrote:The idea is not to get upset, but to take the criticism in stride and go away and make an even better video (assuming you plan to make more than one).

naturally, criticism's like these are really useful.

SND wrote:cba

Poor_Billy wrote:EDIT:

L2k wrote: He must have went to shunnyboys school of over effects

**DDF** wrote:Omg I cant say how much Im disgusted to see so many bad and hard comments about your vid scaryboy

All these guys are just fucking bored of everything. And lol, each time they see a new post they hope to see THE hl2 movie of the year. But sorry guys but with the very good ones we had like unwonted 2 or addicted to kill 2 or also the SW's one, now its gonna be really rare. You really expect too much ^^


And well I post here cuz I did a HL2 vid one day (which is on the site btw) and I know some comments are from players who did 1 too, but Im not sure its the case for everybody. So bad comments from lazy guys who do nothing except bringing their stupid comments like "omg I have wasted my time" (whereas the guy lose 50 hr / week on HL2) or "omg I have wasted my bandwith" (whereas their internet provider make them pay the same ammount of money each month cuz it doesnt depend on bandwith in most of the countries). Well all that make me laugh when I realise how stupid it is and all that make me not laught when finally I see some good frags, a vid which is made for fun and manage to do it, a work behind too, but so fucking sensless comments disrespectful after.

bla bla bla...

Darkology wrote:SND wrote:
cba

yea not like me to do that I usual give a pretty indepth review bit in truth i cba to download it seeing that shunnyboy was the mentor on this and first review was not all that great so i did bother downloading it. I may of had a look it there was a stream there is utube hd now and other sites. I decided only to download stuff that is worth the away time from my playing to download the movie.

**DDF** wrote:with the very good ones we had like unwonted 2 or addicted to kill 2 or also the SW's one, now its gonna be really rare.

Don't agree they great movies but they are not the ceiling of what can be achived if you look at css movies there is a very high level of editing and if had actaul looked at watching play footage of css its boring but yet editing is a such a high quality that it entertains.
I think what other guys where telling is that if this was posted before let say game over then yea it would be get good reviews but its here and now that matters and the standard of video coming out are getting better that because knowlage being spread between video makers. Plus with after effects and list of tuturials you can make it look good but there is of course taste which realy can't be taught but there is does and don't.
anyway all reviews should taken postive way its very hard to pull of a good frag movie and as a movie maker you got to listen to your audience it is to entertain thats the whole goal of it. Listen and learn and improve.

ohh btw A1 about to release more than a game 2 can't wait for that.

any1 got a mirror?

BlackRaven wrote:any1 got a mirror?

I have one in my bathroom

Jelly Fox wrote:

BlackRaven wrote:any1 got a mirror?

I have one in my bathroom

lol!

Jelly Fox wrote:

BlackRaven wrote:any1 got a mirror?

I have one on my ceiling

Fixed.

I'm surprised you remember that night, considering the amount of rohypnol I put in your shandy

thats a terrible joke ( ) but never mind, i managed to download it eventually... kinda wish i hadnt

Jelly Fox wrote:I'm surprised you remember that night, considering the amount of rohypnol I put in your shandy

Touche.

Ok, just watched it. I think people are being a little hard on it. Effects overdone I agree, but the quality was good and there were some interesting kills in there. Nothing wrong with a bit of spawn monitoring either IMO, it is how competitive games are played after all.

Overall I'm giving it 7/10. Not the greatest movie released, but also a solid first effort and I can tell a lot of time went into making it. -1 for no credits/closing clip also.

My advice scary is that if you make another, ease back on the effects and try to make them stand out less. In other words, you notice the effects more than you can see the kills. Save the fancy effects for slow motion replays or transitions perhaps.

If people could look past the effects they would see that this could be a solid little vid. I liked the opening especially, right into it and the intro words stamped on the map walls looked way cool.

Walking Target wrote:Ok, just watched it. I think people are being a little hard on it. Effects overdone I agree, but the quality was good and there were some interesting kills in there. Nothing wrong with a bit of spawn monitoring either IMO, it is how competitive games are played after all.

Overall I'm giving it 7/10. Not the greatest movie released, but also a solid first effort and I can tell a lot of time went into making it.

LOL It's not at all what I was saying man.. Not at all. xD (read again my post and your answer :"people have to be hard if its to say the truth'")

Well it's ok, np np ;D

**DDF** wrote:

Walking Target wrote:Ok, just watched it. I think people are being a little hard on it. Effects overdone I agree, but the quality was good and there were some interesting kills in there. Nothing wrong with a bit of spawn monitoring either IMO, it is how competitive games are played after all.

Overall I'm giving it 7/10. Not the greatest movie released, but also a solid first effort and I can tell a lot of time went into making it.

LOL It's not at all what I was saying man.. Not at all. xD (read again my post and your answer :"people have to be hard if its to say the truth'")

Well it's ok, np np ;D

Huh? That part was not directed at you, it was my review of the video. If I misunderstood your original post I apologize.

He probably didn't understand properly, he's from europe ^_^

@ Walking Target : I know it was not directed at me.

@ Deathwish : I know also that english is not my native langage but t doesnt mean I have not understood too xD


WT It's just in my 1st post I say I'm disgusted about the hard comments cuz I thing the vid remains good. Then you answer me that the truth has to be said even if it's hard to hear. And then you watch the movie and say here that the comments were hard and it remains a good vid...

It has not been exactly said like that but I just give you the idea :]

But well no matter.



And I can understand that people (not you WT) who have never been able to create something nice are frustated enough to post silly comments on the work of the other.
^____^

Ok I think I understand what you are saying now.