Framerate issues in vdub

Ade

2011-05-23 16:54:49

Hi, hope I'm not pissing anyone off by asking noob questions but I've googled and even read the n-year-old video guide with missing links and images bla bla and can't get this to work properly.
It's not the first time I recorded stuff and put it together with VirtualDub and so far I didn't have any issues - framerate wise, atm not interested in quality and editing, I just want proper frames. I'd just record a demo, play it and record the movie then idk what magic tutorial on youtube I followed but worked like a charm! I'd open the first tga, change audio and video to full processing, select Audio from other file.., change video->framerate to 30 ( I think that's what I did last time) and it would just WORK!
Now I twist and turn it, play with different framerates and nothing.. I get a slow choppy vid with a choppy sound. If I remove the sound, it's still a crappy vid. I tried host_framerate 30 in console and made no difference.
I then tried to decimate the frames, by 3 or by 5 (by 2 was still crap) and finally it was at normal/slightly higher speed and sound was good except, of course, it skips some frames so now the flow is gone like I'm lagging in game.
Help?

Ghost Dog_TSGK

2011-05-23 22:06:10

Seems like you got the basic settings close enough for a final product that's not choppy and stuttering.

The question is are you rendering 1280 x 720 for HD?

If so then your PC is going to need a lot of power to play a raw HD video, if it doesn't have that power it will freeze and stutter like you said.

Open sony vegas and try watching your raw HD video through the preview using low draft settings, if it's smooth you know you need more power. You can still edit and render your clips but you will have to review everything through vegas previews.

Another test you can try is render the raw footage into any select codec (xvid, wmv, mp4) and see if it plays smoothly. Again if so your PC can't process raw HD fast enough.

Mr. Nervous

2011-05-24 02:18:06

It's most likely because it's raw footage. It will come out smooth once you render it. If you're using Sony Vegas, put the clip on the timeline, highlight it, and press Shift + B (or CTRL + B, can't remember) which will prerender it and you will see it smoothly on the preview.

Ade

2011-05-24 16:58:44

That's all fine and dandy but I never used sony vegas, never rendered my previous vids and they worked fine before. I'm guessing now I'm doing something wrong in the record phase or vdub phase..?

EDIT: I noticed I can see the proper vid after I convert the avi to mpeg but.. I don't want to do this eeeverytime I want to check an avi output :|

Ghost Dog_TSGK

2011-05-24 23:26:45

I don't know man were you doing HD videos smoothly?

What you're describing is textbook lack of performance, be it hardware or software something is not right.

EDIT: Don't let VDUB steer you wrong, you can screw up the settings pretty bad and still get smooth results, I don't think you caused this problem.

zeiken

2011-05-27 05:27:57

add me on steam, ill fix this in a blink of an eye.

steam : z4kx

Ghost Dog_TSGK

2011-05-27 23:32:07

No he won't.

Ade

2011-05-27 23:47:40

Ghost Dog_TSGK wrote:I don't know man were you doing HD videos smoothly?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4XdQeVRLYI&hd=1 Apparently yt sees that shit as HD..

Hey zeik, didn't know u still play
Dog, don't jinx it :| btw ur sig is rly disturbing (me) lol

zeiken

2011-05-28 00:49:28

Ade wrote:
Ghost Dog_TSGK wrote:I don't know man were you doing HD videos smoothly?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4XdQeVRLYI&hd=1 Apparently yt sees that shit as HD..

Hey zeik, didn't know u still play
Dog, don't jinx it :| btw ur sig is rly disturbing (me) lol
yeah i dont play lol, but i still edit :)

Hey ghost, what do you know about editing?
you dont know shit.

Ghost Dog_TSGK

2011-05-28 21:23:52

Neither do you nor any of us kiddo, quti striving to be pro at anything you can.

@ade that looks like youtubes idea of HD to me.

zeiken

2011-05-28 23:36:47

Ghost Dog_TSGK wrote:Neither do you nor any of us kiddo, quti striving to be pro at anything you can.

@ade that looks like youtubes idea of HD to me.
You're a pure fucking ignorant bitch, look at my video in my sig.
Im on a whole new level, no one in DM can do what i can do, only Dark Soul can because we work/edit together and im showing him some stuff.
I doubt you could do the same or even try to do it, dumbass.
L2edit.

Ghost Dog_TSGK

2011-05-29 03:54:49

Cool, I forgot Pixar and Universal were chomping at the bit to get you on the team. Clearly a professional. You couldn't even make infprod

zeiken

2011-05-29 08:29:02

Ghost Dog_TSGK wrote:Cool, I forgot Pixar and Universal were chomping at the bit to get you on the team. Clearly a professional. You couldn't even make infprod
1.Infprod is dead.
2.Back in the days when it was active, i didnt know shit about editing.
3.Learn to fucking edit THEN come back to me, and you know that you enjoyed my video.

Ghost Dog_TSGK

2011-05-29 10:07:39

So you're saying when infprod was active you didn't know shit about editing? Interesting.

I didn't watch your video, I hope it's about a mediocre source player hopping from game to game cheating and making an ass of himself in each community still not realizing everyone thinks he is full of shit. Otherwise what experience could you possibly lend to it?

zeiken

2011-05-29 10:41:56

Yo, the thing is, you fucking cry about me cheating, then you bring up infprod? lmao.
You're better than me in editing? prove it or shut the hell up, mister TSGK member.

Ghost Dog_TSGK

2011-05-29 13:49:31

Just stating the facts is all.

phantom

2011-05-29 21:24:44

dont you dare talk to ghost dog like that idiot

Ghost Dog_TSGK

2011-05-30 00:20:42

Phantom Punch

zeiken

2011-05-30 00:54:19

damn man, i wish you guys could set up a LAN party so i can come and see how much shit you can talk in front of me, cause i know for a fact that you won't fucking say shit to me.

But yeah dude if you still want to talk shit, go ahead tough guy, keep doing it. That monitor of yours gives you balls isnt it?.

Ghost Dog_TSGK

2011-05-30 03:31:07

Yeah I'm not at all a total asshole irl and wouldn't beat the shit out of your pretentious angst filled ass. You don't realize I use gaming to keep my rowdy ass off the street, all the people I see bragging about getting wasted and being tough fighting people makes me smirk.

The fact that you announce that you want to fight is all the proof I need that it's foreign to you, people like you used to stop and watch people like me beat the breaks off of habitual line steppers, you are a nervous spectator, By all means come whoop my ass. Get mad at phantom I assure you he gives 1/4 of a fuck, he also thinks it's stupid to let a pretender like you paste this site with your bullshit.

Lets summarize:

Zeik: I'm pretty pro gamer

Us: No you cheat and are terrible still

Zeik: Oh I pro hack coder none stop me

Us: You're getting them from another person and we have proof

Zeik: Oh well than I pro troll I troll you and claim to be anonymous on an account with a username

Us: No you're awful at trolling

Zeik: Oh then I pro editor better than u and him

Us: ?

What's next?

Uncle Rico

2011-05-30 21:17:19

zeiken wrote:damn man, i wish you guys could set up a LAN party so i can come and see how much shit you can talk in front of me, cause i know for a fact that you won't fucking say shit to me.
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Ghost Dog_TSGK

2011-05-30 23:24:39

The man can do it all

zeiken

2011-05-31 07:55:26

Does not make sens at all. Thing is, i wanted to help Ade, and you start shit.
You do realize are few people think i still cheat? Yes, the number decreased, i bought all my games back + other expensive games (brink, bo, mw2, etc), why would i hack on a new account, to get myself vac banned? Does not make any sens to me.
I wasnt here to start shit with you, i told Ade i could help him and for some reason you replied with a bad comment.
I dont understand, really i don't.
Okay, i will be mature this time, if you wanna make peace with me, and forget all the crap that i did or said, let's do it now.
Your choice.

Pernicious

2011-05-31 09:29:57

zeiken wrote:damn man, i wish you guys could set up a LAN party so i can come and see how much shit you can talk in front of me, cause i know for a fact that you won't fucking say shit to me.
Rofl, not that anyone would have any reason to go to a lan party with u, but seriously, i doubt that.

Ghost Dog_TSGK

2011-05-31 22:16:12

I'm okay with that. My comment was there because you practically insisted you could fix a problem you don't really know if it's fixable, it's a bad way to approach things.

zeiken

2011-06-01 03:12:09

Ghost Dog_TSGK wrote:I'm okay with that. My comment was there because you practically insisted you could fix a problem you don't really know if it's fixable, it's a bad way to approach things.
Actualy, it is fixable, but the problem isnt the programs or w.e, Ade is lol, i mean he does not want to install vegas or even record on 1280x720. I guess i can't help him unless he installs vegas and do all the other things.

Ade

2011-06-08 05:37:01

mk
hate it when err1s on vacation and i start threads that no one cares to answer or the 2 ppl that cared to answer this 1 clearly didn't understand my issue but tried to help nonetheless (TY!) and ended up like 2 kids fighting over who edits the prettiest sandcastle. and no parent around to send them both in timeout or delete this fkn thread lol
no offense
my q was if i missed a step in vdub since it was fine before and now it's not. it's that simple. answer was no. maybe my gfx card is going to hell since it's crashing more n more often. moving along now.

pwetty pweeease close this thread.

PS: zeiken for the last time, i'm a SIS

Ghost Dog_TSGK

2011-06-08 06:49:12

Meanwhile both of us still offered to help you.

Shut up.