STX SERIES III

Hey everybody.
I wanted to give you all a heads up to an upcoming tourney. My clan is new to HL2 so we do not know any HL2 clans so I am contacting all HL2 clan I can find over the next month to make sure we have invited everyone to jam in what will no doubt be a very fun and competitive tourney.
For now, please come by our forum and let us know if you have a team interested in playing.
Homepage: http://www.timetokill.org
STX SERIES III Thread: http://ttk.fatpipeshosting.com/forums/v ... m.php?f=20

Please pass this on and I will be back to to find more links to other HL2 clans from you guys if you don't mind helping us out. We have 2 sponsors for the tourneyand I am working on more as we speak.

Wassup Peeps,

I have hosted 2 successful Severian Half Life tournies and I am now planning to host STX SERIES III. The catch is, I am new to HL2 and I dont have links to very many HL2 clans. If you have links to other HL2 clans, please post them here. If you are in a clan that would be interested in participating in this tourney, please visit http://www.timetokill.org and post your clan's name here
http://ttk.fatpipeshosting.com/forums/v ... m.php?f=20

Thanks in advance for your consideration!!!

Welcome to the DMU!
Do you guys have a server? Tell us something about yourselves.

Please put a few details about the tourney here so we dont have to hunt your forums for the info.

Thanks.

Server Name: http://www.TIMETOKILL.org[ShellShocked]
Server IP: 72.5.86.31:27025
Server stats located on Clan Home Page @
http://www.timetokill.org

STX SERIES III will be a HL2/Shellshock Mod 4v4 Tourney. I have a team trying to locate other HL2 clans so that we can invite as many teams as possible. I figure it will take a month of advertising the event to get maximum participation. 1 sponsor, usually provides HLTV and a free server to the winning clan. I have to talk with the other sponsor to see what they will offer. Also, I am looking for other sponsors for t-shirts, peripherals, and stuff like that. After that it is on to Phase 2.
We will hold a map vote to see which maps will be played each week. I kinda push the point that we want the biggest maps with alot of open room for long range sniping and close 4v4 battles where team tactics must be considered.
Here are the rules from STX SERIES II. I will be amending these to fit HL2/Shellshock
STX SERIES GENERAL INFO: STX stands for Shotgun Trumps Xbow. This tourney was started in 2006 with the desire to try something alittle different. We wanted to take a break from the standard 4v4 "run and gun" tournement being played on the same original 8 valve maps over and over. In this tourney, you will still see the 4v4 setup, but you will see those 4 players in each team armed to the teeth. You will see the battles being played out on the biggest maps available in the game. We hoped that this would make teams re-think their stratagies..There will be no holding the box room with shotguns during STX Series!!! For people that have played Sevs & AG, you will like the fact that the weapons reload fast as hell. The pace will be furious. All things considered, our 2 previous tourney were a huge success and we hope that this one will be even bigger and better than the last one.

RULES
1. Scoring - 1 point for the winning team and zero for the losing team.
2. Fraglimit 0 - Timelimit 20 minutes
3. Spawn camping/ spawn mining - Any team who gets 2 kills by placing mines or satchels at spawn points will cause his/her team to lose by default. Spawn camping will be defined as any player or TEAM who engages/kills 2 or more opponents who have just spawned, without engaging any other targets. Situation will dictate and at that point, it will be left up to STX Admins to decide if a player/players are, in fact, spawn camping. On big maps, this should be pretty difficult, but if you get 3 "spawn kills" in a row without engaging other targets, your demo will be reviewed.
4. All matches will take place in the http://www.TIMETOKILL.org server unless otherwise noted/scheduled.
5. Teams will be counted as present so long as they have 3 players. Teams will have 10 minutes after the designated match time to have their players present. Players will not be allowed to join once the match has started.
6. Disrespecting other clans will not be tolerated prior to, during, or after the match. There should be no talking at the start of the match except by teams captains.
7. Disrespecting other players/clans in the forum will not be tolerated. Players who fail to heed this warning will be banned from the forum. Injured players/clans may appeal to the STX Admins to determine if the offensive remark should result in banning the player from the tourney. STX Admin will base there their findings on the following guideline, "Does the remark disrupt the good order and discipline of the STX Series?"
8. Additions may be made to rosters, but the added player/players will not be eligible to play for 1 week (to the day of addition). No player/players may be added to the roster 2 weeks before playoffs.
9. Players must participate in atleast 2 regular season matches to be eligible for playoffs.
10. Each team will assign an AMBASSADOR TO THE MASSACRE who must provide an active email address, steam friends ID, clan forum info for contact purposes.
11. Lagging Out - You can replace a player who is lagging out, but each team is responsible for having a back up player ready to go and giving the back up player the server password.
If the lag out occurs within the first 5 minutes of play, the admin may restart the match or the teams may agree to reschedule. After 5 minutes, you can replace the high pinger at your own risk, but the match will not be stopped, paused, or resheduled.


Server configs: The only thing I have have to do is speed up the xbow reload and maybe hold a vote to see if the majority of the peeps want additonal weapons. Otherwise, the best way to get a feel for it is to jump in the server, not read about it!!

Could you perhaps give us more info on what Severian or STX is, I'm not familiar with either.

Waz up everyone - come join the festivities and peep out our forums!

"3. Spawn camping/ spawn mining - Any team who gets 2 kills by placing mines or satchels at spawn points will cause his/her team to lose by default. Spawn camping will be defined as any player or TEAM who engages/kills 2 or more opponents who have just spawned, without engaging any other targets. Situation will dictate and at that point, it will be left up to STX Admins to decide if a player/players are, in fact, spawn camping. On big maps, this should be pretty difficult, but if you get 3 "spawn kills" in a row without engaging other targets, your demo will be reviewed."

???

gl hf i guess

RE: Spawn Camping

That is just our way of saying that if you know where a spwn point is, you cannot stand beside the spawn point waiting for someone to spawn racking up kills, same thing with setting mines on spawn points..totally lame. Grow some balls, go forth and fight IMO.

lmao....gl hf I guess

You dont have to be familiar with valve or sevs, or bubblemod..That is our background. Where we come from....
This tourney, STX SERIES III, is a HL2 tourney. If you are in a clan, have your clan register so I can get a head count. If you are not in a clan, find 4 or 5 people to form your own team.
It will be a 4v4 set up. We will keep the screenshots, demos, make predictions, have fun, and depending on how many teams join, 8-10 teams could wind up in the playoffs, from that 1 team will emerge as the STX SERIES III Champions, and the winners will get prizes, a trophy to take back to their website, and some serious bragging rights.
The gameplay will be faster than the HL2DM that you are used too. Shellshock Mod does not leave you jumping around trying to save yourself while you wait on a slow ass reload. This will be guns blazing for 20 minutes per match, roughly 12-15 matches (1 per week) and when the smoke clears one team will stand victorious.
Feel Free to stop by http://www.timetokill.org to talk about it more. This will be the biggest HL2 tourney of the year.
This is a work in progress..but by the time we kick it off, every angle will be covered in great detail. I have an AWESOME group of people to help make sure that happens.

thx, but I am really hoping to hear from people who are interested. :roll:
You know, people who have a clan that are not afraid of a little tourney.

rule#3 is silly :roll:

Seagull wrote:"3. Spawn camping/ spawn mining - Any team who gets 2 kills by placing mines or satchels at spawn points will cause his/her team to lose by default. Spawn camping will be defined as any player or TEAM who engages/kills 2 or more opponents who have just spawned, without engaging any other targets. Situation will dictate and at that point, it will be left up to STX Admins to decide if a player/players are, in fact, spawn camping. On big maps, this should be pretty difficult, but if you get 3 "spawn kills" in a row without engaging other targets, your demo will be reviewed."

???

what about if you spawn and then kill someone?

Like I said, we will be making amendments as we go. But you have to start somewhere. Second, if you think it is cool to hide at a spawn point and kill whoever spawns there for 20 minutes straight, that speaks for itself.

P.S. CAN YOU STICKY THIS??

cool,
I just don't want to see somebody standing beside a spawn point, only killing the players who spawn there over and over for 20 minutes. How much skill does that require?

.::TTK::.HoLYWaR::. wrote:RE: Spawn Camping

That is just our way of saying that if you know where a spwn point is, you cannot stand beside the spawn point waiting for someone to spawn racking up kills, same thing with setting mines on spawn points..totally lame. Grow some balls, go forth and fight IMO.

so if your bhopen along and you see someone spawn you can kill them, you just dont want us to camp by a spawn and get 2 kills that way, but we can spawnkill all we want just no camping right? WHAT?

OMG SHELLSHOCK IM SOOOO IN!

add me: thefinalconflict on steamfriends

Man I feel all funneh.

You have to understand, people here at dmu have been playing in HL2DM leagues for years now, some since the day it was released. Spawn kill rules are problematic for so many reasons in competitive play. Trying to camp a spawn point for 20 minutes wont work, it will just get you killed. If you can camp a spawn point for more than a few seconds and not be in danger of getting flanked, the map probably has design issues.

Most seasoned league players consider anti-spawn killing rules and/or spawn protection to be a sign of non-competitive players or lack of experience in running leagues.

No offense intended with this post, I am just trying to explain why people are reacting the way they are.

Briggs wrote:so if your bhopen along and you see someone spawn you can kill them, you just dont want us to camp by a spawn and get 2 kills that way, but we can spawnkill all we want just no camping right? WHAT?

bhopping slows you down a bit in this plug-in, run speed is what 500 or so?

.::TTK::.HoLYWaR::. wrote:Like I said, we will be making amendments as we go. But you have to start somewhere. Second, if you think it is cool to hide at a spawn point and kill whoever spawns there for 20 minutes straight, that speaks for itself.

P.S. CAN YOU STICKY THIS??

You have, two threads running, one here and one in the league section. I will merge them and post it as announcement. Stickies are for permanent posts, and this will no longer be relevant once the tourny is under way.

Thanks for the sticky!!


Please try to understand this.
If you are running through a map, and someone spawns around you, in front of you, beside you, on top of you, shoot them.
If you crouch behind a box waiting for someone to spawn 2 feet in front of you and you do that for 20 minutes resulting in 75 kills and 0 deaths..You are spawn camping/spawn killing. If a complaint is made, the STX Admins will review the demo and render a decision.

.::TTK::.HoLYWaR::. wrote:Thanks for the sticky!!


Please try to understand this.
If you are running through a map, and someone spawns around you, in front of you, beside you, on top of you, shoot them.
If you crouch behind a box waiting for someone to spawn 2 feet in front of you and you do that for 20 minutes resulting in 75 kills and 0 deaths..You are spawn camping/spawn killing. If a complaint is made, the STX Admins will review the demo and render a decision.

Welcome.

Oh I see. Then it will be no problem for anyone here. It still seems kind of redundant as it really is a losing strategy attempting to do that, unless you plan to run a killbox with an upper catwalk spawn and a crossbow.

Walking Target wrote:You have to understand, people here at dmu have been playing in HL2DM leagues for years now, some since the day it was released. Spawn kill rules are problematic for so many reasons in competitive play. Trying to camp a spawn point for 20 minutes wont work, it will just get you killed. If you can camp a spawn point for more than a few seconds and not be in danger of getting flanked, the map probably has design issues.

Most seasoned league players consider anti-spawn killing rules and/or spawn protection to be a sign of non-competitive players or lack of experience in running leagues.

No offense intended with this post, I am just trying to explain why people are reacting the way they are.

Agreed, which is why it has to be addressed at some point. If the complaint is lodged, STX Admins have to use the rules as the standard.

thefinalconflict I will add you, you add me stxseries..Come by our forum, let me know if you plan to make a 4 man team, or you already have a clan, or you are looking to join one. Either way come by and Holla at us!!

ninojman wrote:

Briggs wrote:so if your bhopen along and you see someone spawn you can kill them, you just dont want us to camp by a spawn and get 2 kills that way, but we can spawnkill all we want just no camping right? WHAT?

bhopping slows you down a bit in this plug-in, run speed is what 500 or so?

then you should be able to bhop even faster

Hell. .::TTK::. Holy War count me in.. I'm always up for some ass-kicking..

you should post on these forums also holy

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/f ... y.php?f=46

spawn camping & spawn mines are ridiculous... let's be real...

Agreed.... Most of you should understand that we are talking about a different mod then regular hl2dm
Info on the mod: http://www.moddb.com/mods/6921/shellshock

We have been playing for 7+ years at least I have. Many tourneys and most of the rules have been because someone always tests there limits. No spawn camping is meant more for the person that camps with a xbow zoomed in at the spawn point waiting for a person to spawn(in old hl you held 5 rounds and could shoot them off really fast in sevs). If you are up and moving around it is unavoidable to nail someone in this mod as they spawn.

Anyway hope to see some people join up this is just a very fast pace mod with alot of deaths. The Shotgun is insane, faster shooting and usually one shot kills. And conflict if your teammates are as good as you then I think we might be worried.. GG's to you over the weekend.

.:::TTK::.v|per wrote:spawn camping & spawn mines are ridiculous... let's be real...

It depends on the context. I don't know anything about your mod, but in HL2DM competition I prefer anything goes with as few rules as possible.

Well Bring it!!
It was said before, #3 is just for extreme cases. I can vouch for ALOT of people, but after running 2 tournies and playing in tournies since 2001. Someone will fuck something up at some point. It never fails. It is a safe guard.
But please don't get caught up on that rule and instead redirect your focus to having fun, meeting new clans & players, watching your clan rise to the top or totally suck ass.
Spawn camping should not be an issue.

Yep lets have fun join up and get this tourney going. Shoot check out the mod the client doesn't have to download anything it is all done server side. So just join it like you do a regular hl2dm game. Just be prepaid on dying alot. That is what people hate at first but once you get used to it. Wow it keeps you on your toes lets say that.

Walking Target wrote:

.:::TTK::.v|per wrote:spawn camping & spawn mines are ridiculous... let's be real...

It depends on the context. I don't know anything about your mod, but in HL2DM competition I prefer anything goes with as few rules as possible.

Actually I'm still fairly new to HL2 - I've fragged HLDM forever it seems like and still people exploit the hell out of the spawnpoints...

Real Skill > Spawn Camping

.:::TTK::.v|per wrote: Actually I'm still fairly new to HL2 - I've fragged HLDM forever it seems like and still people exploit the hell out of the spawnpoints...
Real Skill > Spawn Camping

You get the first kill by skill. Then if someone spawns nearby, he just had to stay alive or spawn somewhere else :]

IMO.

Depends on the map rotation, some maps (like industrial or magnumxbowyard i think) are ridiculously easy to spawncamp. In most CAL maps it's most likely not going to happen that someone spawns 8 times in a row (i was pubbing on shelchock and killed someguy 9 times in a row, he spawned in the same spot 9 times in a row. Ridiculous)

I got a good buddy who can edit the maps to add more spawn points. Make suggestions, we will respond. Express interest and let me know that it's on.

Shell Shock is the opposite of competition. If your new to the game you should just play for a bit and get a feel for the game before you make a rule about no spawn killing but pick a mod that encourages it buy making almost all weapons 1 hit kill. That and the fact there are pretty much no clans that do any sort of league play who play shell shock which is probably why you are asking for some. Shell shock lags a servers to all get out another thing that is terrible for league play. It discourages aggressive play and rewards people for camping due to the noob friendly weapon damage. I will pass.

It discourages aggressive play

Not sure what you mean there. But anyway...

Most people don't like the mod cause you can't control it like you can regular. You know get all the good weapons load up on hev and health and then bounce around the map not letting the other guys get anything. Winning by 50-5 or something like that. This mod is just fair. You don't have to learn every weapon, you don't have to run around and load up on everything, and when you start at spawn you at least have a chance against the player that has all the powerfull weapons. Same with spawn camping. Heck you have just as much chance at shooting the guy that is waiting for you at spawn as he does you.

We aren't posting this league invitation to switch everyone to this professional league or anything. We merely want about 10 or more clans to come join up for just a fun, shoot the shit kind of league.

I have seen the most leet of players have a hard time playing this mod. Mostly because they like to play games where there is a way to gain an advantage over others.

Anyway don't knock the mod we are looking for people that would be interested in playing not people that want to put down the mod. I have been in two shell shock servers completely full and no lag.. LOL at why a mod running the same game engine would lag a server. TTK has hosted I think 2 tourneys in sevs(hl1) = shell shock(hl2). SSA my old clan hosted 2 tourneys as well in sevs(hl1) = shellshock(hl2). Yes there needed to be a rule for spawn camping. A few clans were doing it and said it wasn't in the rules. Trust me there is no such rule needed in regular hl2. But in the shell shock there does, more for just in case not cause everyone does it. I mean you will spawn kill there is no way around it but if you blaintly stand there waiting and doing nothing else but waiting for a spawn then yea that wouldn't be fair. This only happend I think in one tourney but that was the reason for the rule. So we kept it.

Anyway HolyWar please edit it and take the rule out so we can stop talking about the stupid spawn rule. I want some matches and good old fun. We need to go thru some maps as well.

Is shellshock the one with the auto shotty, like bam bam bam bam bam, if so, i played that once like 2 years ago(with lag), it was F@#!'in easy, if im going to get a 1 shot kill, i want it to be skillfull atleast -.-, for ex...actually having to aim at the head atleast. This is why such a game is so boring, not enough of a challenge to stimulate the mind.

Ok, we will delete Rule #3 and give everyone the benefit of the doubt.
So what other objections do I have to overcome?
Shellshock is not aggressive? Shellshock is faster and more powerful than regular HLDM, so how can that be interpreted as not being aggressive or competitive.
Ok, so your clan don't play shellshock. If you know anything about the halflife community, then you know that in the spirit of competition, a versatile clan will play in other mods.
Ex. Your Clan v .::TTK::. (Shellshock)
and when a HLDM tourney comes around..
Your Clan v .::TTK::. (HL2 or whatever mod you want)

I thought this was a good place to find gamers/ clans who like to compete for the win. We could disagree all day with the HL2DM is better than Shellshock crap. So put away your protest and come out and play.
Do we need a 2 week debate to play a 20 minute match here at HL2DM University?

Pernicious wrote:Is shellshock the one with the auto shotty, like bam bam bam bam bam, if so, i played that once like 2 years ago(with lag), it was F@#!'in easy, if im going to get a 1 shot kill, i want it to be skillfull atleast -.-, for ex...actually having to aim at the head atleast. This is why such a game is so boring, not enough of a challenge to stimulate the mind.

You find 3 players and meet me in the .::TTK::. server tonight @ 9:30 and you will have your challenge. I'll stimulate your mind with arrows from above.

.::TTK::.HoLYWaR::. wrote:I thought this was a good place to find gamers/ clans who like to compete for the win. We could disagree all day with the HL2DM is better than Shellshock crap. So put away your protest and come out and play.
Do we need a 2 week debate to play a 20 minute match here at HL2DM University?

It may or may not be, HL2DM was fading pretty badly at inception and we are working hard to generate interest in vanilla HL2DM. Getting people to try something different could perhaps be a struggle, but I can't say for sure.

Oh Shell SHock is very challanging when it is so easy to get killed. To get a good kill/d ratio would be hard. But it is possible.

Anyway lets get some peeps together and have some fun.. That is what I am looking for people that want to play and have fun.. DOn't care about dying and don't care how easy or not easy the game is.

Oh and people that are damn fast cause this mod will keep you on your toes that is for sure. Oh and it isn't always a one shot kill you have to aim close to the head usually. Trust me when I say you can't get 1 shot kills every single time you shoot.

Don't know how many clans are playing Shellshock, but seems like there can't be many if you are trying to drum up buisness. We have at least 20 active clans playing CAL right now and it looks like a few more may join us next season. No offense, maybe you guys should consider joining our crowd rather than keep a mostly dead mod (?) going. From what I undrstand, it seems to play quite abit different from HL2DM, which is newer if I am not mistaken? I am not willing to completely go to a new playing style with a new set of rules. That sort of thing ususally messes me up for my normal play and its tough enough as it is. Anyway good luck with your tourney but its not really for me.

It is a new mod, and this is a new tourney.

So where can I find other CAL clans/Forums/links?

P.S. Your community will die with this kinda of support.

No problem I understand. It is alot different. Plus every mod has to start somewhere. I mean hl2dm isn't a mod so not hard to get people to play it especially CAL leagues they have almost every FPS game there is but don't usually do mods. I will have to see what mods they do have tho..

Good idea Tweaker, lets talk with CAL admins and see if we can points some clans towards our tourney.

.::TTK::.HoLYWaR::. wrote:It is a new mod, and this is a new tourney.

So where can I find other CAL clans/Forums/links?

P.S. Your community will die with this kinda of support.

http://www.caleage.com You will find pretty much everyone in the DM league there are here including the admins.

DMU has 453 members
1100 topics
15000 posts
More coming every day.

Its doing just fine Thanks

I am not speaking for others here. I am not personally into learning a new mod, sorry.

.::TTK::. has Total posts 14047 | Total topics 1544 | Total members 215 More coming in everyday.

We will have a fat tourney. Sorry your not gonna be in it... So let hear from the other 452 members, shall we??

.::TTK::.HoLYWaR::. wrote:Shellshock is not aggressive? Shellshock is faster and more powerful than regular HLDM, so how can that be interpreted as not being aggressive or competitive.

you are really shooting yourself in the foot by saying this on a forums that supports hl2dm

I knew i should have told you this one you started the topic but i figured you would know....

Well then you should have plenty for your tourney.

No need to be offended, we aren't flaming your clan or your mod, we are entitled to our opinion same as you even if it happens to disagree. Great to live in a democracy huh?

GL HF

As stated previously by the .::TTK::. members we are new to the community. Honestly these are the first real discussions that we have had with seasoned HL2 players concerning the way HL2 is played. .::TTK::. has been an HL1 severians clan for quite a long time probably longer than HL1's shelf life was intended. .::TTK::. has taken a large step matriculating into the HL2 community and I personally am finding that .::TTK::.'s thoughts, as well as the HL1 Community's thoughts on how HL2 is viewed & played, is completely different than we could've imagined. We might as well be inviting clans in the HL2 community to join a COD tourney. We are obviously are not comparing notes written in the same language. But hey - learning about new gaming cultures, communities & playing styles may not be for everyone. That being said though, where would you be if people didn't venture out of the box? My guess is you'd probably all be playing stagnant-ass HL2DM, bored to death - instead of doing something productive like finding a way to pay for a nice pair of braces for your fucked-up Limey grillz.... pwnt

HL > HL2

v|p

And so it starts.....


*makes popcorn gets binoculars and a comfy chair*

OK forget the STX SERIES. I CHALLENGE ANY OF YOU TO COME BY OUR SERVER TONIGHT AT 9:30 FOR A FRIENDLY EGO CRUSHING MATCH.

Haven't been able to find my ego since the last time I did acid, but I'm game for some fraggin!

What time zone 9:30?

don't lag during the game because they will not be "resheduled"

(I should probably not be talking )

9:30 est ..

Thank you for showing some love..FINALLY!!

Eastern I bet. That is a bad time gets in the way of watching Numbers... Dang new episode also lol.. I try to be there for 30 minutes. Sorry I am old and like my T.V shows.

Demos pls.

IP of server?

There you go server I.P: 72.5.86.31:27025

i no has ego. just a goodsense of humor.
feel free to add me and have fun whoppin my arse like most of the people on this site.
email
[email protected]
screen name
old time no.7

i don't play that often as time is in short supply.

i have never played a mod, not really sure how to install/config etc...
i apolgize if my obstinance to play this mod seems insulting in anyway, i'm just happy with as walkingtarget appropriately puts it, "the vanilla "version of the game.

hope you have fun playing your match.

Walking Target wrote:Demos pls.

i'd like to see as well.

Shell Shock is not new unless you mean it is just not as old as HL2DM. It has been around for a very long time, years. The mod just basically changes the weapon damages, what that does is changes the usefulness of the weapons and so changes what people use in practice. The real cool weapons in HL2DM become less useful and the basic weapons you can find in any game become over powerful. The end effect is it plays real boring like basically instagib in UT or something. But new players kinda like it cause they don't have to learn anything new to play it successfully. But more or less it's not even worth playing you could play any DM game and get the same effect. If you wanna play HL2DM stock is the way to go. Otherwise you might as well just play any game.

Can we say Old AG Mod player or what. LOL.. Well then we should change the advertisement too. IF you have been playin hl2dm for a while now and still can't beat those leet players and getting tired of it.. Come play some shell shock were as long as you can aim good and really fast and strafe fast you can have alot of fun.

There can you stop knocking the mod now.. JESUS....I have never thru this whole thread said that HL2DM sucked or any other game. Heck give me some time I am going to learn HL2DM. I know I will play it. But right now we are comfortable playing a mod that feels the same as the old HL. Plus I had to do some tweaks cause my fps dropped alot lol.. Shoot funny when HL1 died Sevs mod(for hl1) was the most popular mod for like the last 3 years. There was like close to 6 tournaments. Sevs mod started out just like shell shock nobody played it but in time people started to like it.

If anything the mod will definitely improve your accuracy and quickness in aiming for sure. Cause all the weapons are available accept for the physcannon some have it and some don't.

Players spawn with a loaded shotgun, pistol, & crowbar
Shotgun power is increased (way more damage)
Shotgun reload time reduced (reloads quicker)
Shotgun firing rate increased (shoots faster)
Shotgun clip size increased (to 8 bullets, this is customizable)
Crossbow bolt speed dramatically increased (almost instant, like HL1!)
Crossbow bolt damage increased (almost insta-gib)
Frag grenades can be launched via right-click and detonate on impact
Players may spawn with any weapon combination (shotgun/melee/pistol recommended)
Respawn time reduced to 0.5 seconds so players can rejoin the fray more quickly

Only three weapons change. Xbow, Shotgun, and grenade.

Shotgun isn't a insta-gib shot. You have to shoot at the head and use the secondary fire to get one shot kill. It does shoot pretty fast. By holdingit down but good players won't hold it down it will waste shots and miss.

Xbow is insta-gib pretty much get shot anywhere you die. But heck other than the leet players we can all say that it is hard to nail someone with the xbow while there moving. The speed is suppose to be faster but I can't tell hardly. Loads little faster.

Grenade is the same no weapon damage increase or anything. You can now throw one with the sencondary that will blow up on contact.


Besides the physcannon, xbow, machine gun, and shotgun what primary weapons are the most popular in hl2dm...

Tried it out, seemed just completely silly. Running around at 400~vel with shotguns that shoot ridiculously fast one/two shotting people isn't my thing ;o

"IF you have been playin hl2dm for a while now and still can't beat those leet players and getting tired of it.. Come play some shell shock "

This is exactly the reason why I don't like it - whats the point of being skilled at all if you can mindlessly run around one/two shotting everything by holding down a button

faster xbow firing/reloading, faster shotty firing/reloading, more powerful shotty.
That's it.
Come by for fun.whatever. GLad you met me. Peace out.

regular HL2DM = Bubblemod< Severian HL = Shellshock

I never met a group of gamers so determined to avoid a match. :roll:

Sorry it was a waist of your time..

If you didn't speed it up then it would be too easy to aim at them and then it would be a waist.

But you act like there isn't one shot kill weapons in hl2dm.. Come on.. Give me a break.. You can kill people with the xbow with one shot and with the pistol too. RPG too but that is a given..

Man can anyone come in her and post one good thing about it.. JESUS it may be a mod but it is still hl2dm based...

I am done posting.. Since nothing positive will ever come of it.. Maybe I will check this for anything postive in the future.

Sorry then! I'll be happy to play you guys in stock, but for now I'd prefer not to play you in that mod - at least with the one-shot kills in stock I can control those weapons. As it stands now, whenever I jump into a shellshocked game I feel like I'm playing in a killbox where shotguns two shot everyone.

HAHA killbox maps suck lol.. in regular hl2dm.. At least in shell shock it is some intense killing and dying on killbox. WInner goes to the person that is got hella fast reflexes lol... But yea I can see the relationship. Its all good. Just getting worked up cause only one person sounded interested and that was .conflict .. The rest has just been put downs...

Anyway in time I will play you post up some servers that you play in and I will at least go in there and practice.

This reminds me of instakill in hl2dm pro, i would allways say wen ppl wanted to play it, that it sucked. Someone said, "your just crap at it", so we played, and obviously things went different to wat they thought it would.
Point being, just because a player cant be fucked playing some hell boring mod doesnt mean they are avoiding it becuase they suck...
Arcade mode in hl2dm pro = way more skilled in terms of mindless combat, just thought i'd add ^_^. Dont bother challenging me, i live in australia with a crappy wireless connection, and the tower for my isp is fucked so i can only get a very weak signal, i literally cannot even play on local servers, at all.
And seagull, play one of them >:(, im sure ur aim and reflex's are enough for just one random game.

You can find players in these pubs.

208.122.53.215:27015
208.146.44.37:27015
63.209.36.28:27015

There are others and locked servers you can go into IRC to get in touch about locked servers.

Thanks Fearsome. Yep Pernicious pretty much if you are good at hl2dm or pro you will have no problem owning it up in shell shock.. You just going to die more than you are used to.. Hl2dm pro = AG2 Tell me hl2dm pro is the xbow the same as hl2dm.. Or did they make it like old hL1

Its the same with an addition, wen u zoom in with it the bolts go much quicker.

I played that mod once .... against people that I can win against, and even though I was winning again, they killed me a lot more (plus I had like 300 ping =P)
Anyway ...we were 3, testing that mod out @ aim_arena.
IMO, it just felt dumb... you run really fast all the time, and you get killed from mid-far distance with 1 shotgun.... most used weapon was shotgun, shotgun, shotgun.
I personally prefer to stick to hl2dm. As already mentioned ...if you are good at hl2dm, you will surely do fine at ss mod, but will die a lot more.
It a less skilled way to play the game .... again IMO.
I hope nobody gets offended by what I think... anyone can try the mod and even stick to it if they like it...in the meanwhile, I'll stick to my beloved hl2dm

haha we all know what happens when a clan runs a league :roll:

If you guys want to run a solid league of any kind, dont alter shit. Run stock everything, you'll get less people bitching about whatever settings you've decided to benefit you guys.

All in all....Good Luck Have Fun, I guess.

LOL are these guys serious?!

whoa.. haven't seen you post for a while.

We like shellshock, so you wanna spend another day debating with one is better? I'd rather not. The idea is to get together and frag it up. Build a community. Not interested, I don't care.
"We all know what happens when clans run a tourney." You know nothing. I have admined MANY tournies. My clan has hosted 2 of them. Each Tourney had a representative from each clan that was given admin and we all voted on any issues that can up. We had a 9 person admin board.
So you are all too busy with regular HL2DM to play in an unfair, no skill, biased tourney. I gotcha, sorry I invited you.

.::TTK::.HoLYWaR::. wrote:So you are all too busy with regular HL2DM to play in an unfair, no skill, biased tourney. I gotcha, sorry I invited you.

Well you are posting this on a HL2DM site, and everyone here has worked together to help bring the scene back from the brink of non-existence. It was really starting to slide 2 years out from release, at least here in the US.

You put it out there and people responded with their thoughts. Are we a biased community? Yes, we are HL2DM players. As a site we are trying to keep our HL2DM leagues active and running smoothly. Some people here have taken up your offer so it was not a complete loss.

You guys are welcome to post here, just please try to keep it positive. Not getting the response you desire is no reason to get upset or sarcastic about the situation.

You know we could also say you are determined at avoiding playing us in our version of the game.

We don't want to play your mod for the same reason you don't want to play our version of the game-----we don't like it and we prefer our own OK?

Your mod basically seems like HL2DM bastardized to play more like Quake. I don't play Quake either because I like pure unadulterated HL2DM. Most if not all here agree with me.

You are entitled to your opinion we are entitled to ours...Neither is right or wrong, just a different point of view.

You probably aren't going to convert us to your way of thinking.....give it up, go play your mod and let us play the game the way we want to play it. GL HF!

This post was nothing but an invitation to come play in a tournament for shell shock mod. Maybe we should have put if interested in bold caps. I know there are people that play hl2dm and play this one too. It was you guys who thought we were trying to convert you. We posted an advertisment for a tournement for a mod and then everyone started bashing it. We posted here thinking that as many people are members to this place and since our mod is an hl2dm mod we might post it here. Why wouldn't we defend the mod we want to play in. I mean no where did we say hey come try this mod and like it or else. We never came in here with any intent of converting nor trying to rustle up arguments all week. But the people that hated it wanted to let it be known the reasons they didn't like it so we defended it.

Also we never wanted to have a tournament and have it anywhere as big or as popular as CAL. It was just for fun with rules from our old tournaments. Possibly a way to get people that liked this mod together.

And we can all agree that if you all played us in our mod we would have the upperhand and probably win. We can all say that if anyone of us comes plays HL2DM we will probably get owned as well. So lets not try to say anyone of us is better than anyone else.. Lets say right now..

IF INTERESTED COME PLAY WITH US OR JOIN THE TOURNEY IF NOT NO BIG DEAL HAVE FUN!!!

well you didn't post on these forums http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/f ... y.php?f=46

I know a few people play the mod there, but like this forums there will be a few hl2dm players that may flame it, just stay positive and try to promote your tournament. And as with this forum you may get some players/teams to join the series.

Sounds like fun to me. Super shotty!
I'll check it out.
And thanks for the invite.

Invite us to your tournies. We will play HLDM. We'll get to know you all and probably lose, but we will have fun doing it. Why can't we get that kinda of consideration from you guys? We play outside of our favorite mod all the time, b/c like you said, it's a small community. So we have taken a half hearted interest in other MODS over the past 8 years just to find friendly competition. This was all an effort to meet you guys, blast some caps in a HL2 tourney. Maybe playing each other on your homefield next time.


Thanks Imapala and Ninojman. I will post there soon.
Here is the server MOTD I am working on.
Whatcha think?

You can sign up for CAL at http://www.caleague.com/?league=dm2v&division=hl4v
Currently it is in playoffs the next season will start a couple weeks after this one finishes.

Fearsome* wrote:You can sign up for CAL at http://www.caleague.com/?league=dm2v&division=hl4v
Currently it is in playoffs the next season will start a couple weeks after this one finishes.

we have 4v4,2v2, and 1v1 going into the 4th season and hoping to get a good turn out.

If your look for something less formal and or a training for these leagues there will be an informal 2v2 1 say tournament done from IRC on the gamesurge network #hl2dm this wednesday.

Now we're talking!!

Thank buddy

Count me out Holywar..No tournaments right now to soon.. I need some serious practice for hl2dm it is way to different from old hl1. I got to learn some maps and stuff and the physcannon thing is driving me crazy. Give me about 2 months..

I don't mind a scrim now and then. Heck I played it Saturday and didn't feel I did to good. I was in the middle pretty much.

.::TTK::.TW3@K3R wrote:Count me out Holywar..No tournaments right now to soon.. I need some serious practice for hl2dm it is way to different from old hl1. I got to learn some maps and stuff and the physcannon thing is driving me crazy. Give me about 2 months..

I don't mind a scrim now and then. Heck I played it Saturday and didn't feel I did to good. I was in the middle pretty much.

Well theres not better way to practice then to play.

I agree but to jump into a tournament right away.. I will wait a bit..

:roll:

I just played Shell Shock for the second time. I couldn't believe it the first time. The second time i was all like ..."hmm, this isn't at all like DM i must adapt to this new thing. Great movement...out. Great Mag whoring...out. SUPER SHOTTY!!! And i mean crazy stupid super shotty. Hmmm. Whoever moves into position, spots someone first and gets the shot off usually wins." Well, the bow is fast also.

After gettin it used to it a little, i decided to have fun using anything BUT the shotty and camped the AR2 and Bow in Resistance! YEOOOW! Big fun there. You can always find someone cringing in a corner not moving...thunk.

Most fun was Feudal, hopping and jumping the pad, blasting folks everywhere.
THEN, some admin got stupid and started repeatedly spawn killing me. That is how they achieved a 58 and 12 score, with spawn kills~!
lame.

Anyhow, interesting for a little while. Of course most everything i love about Dm is gone and skill is sorta out the window and if you hate gettin spawn killed... well maybe not for you.

Ill play it again though, for fun.

holywar the best place to get people for shellshock tourney's will be posting it in low gravity clans

here are some of them

http://www.soulsinexile.com
http://www.maxclan.org
http://www.thedefectorspro.com/
http://wutang.freeforums.org/portal.php
http://www.primegenic.nl/dts/ -- euro clan

Thanks Strange!!

65 Impala..add me to your steam friends list
stxseries
Jump in when you see me in the server. I look forward to jamming with ya. And I am happy to hear that you "caught on" to the cooler points this mod has to offer.

Well, i like it a bit, except for admin constantly killing me.
Maps play completely different, since cover is less effective and speed is less effective. due to the spread and sheer damage of the shotty.
The large maps are not as fun and one map that was a tight office floor was the best, as ninja creeping and strafing into rooms unannounced was effective.
One thing i did notice, is that a kept trying to grab my beloved GGun and there isnt one.
So, i wouldnt play too much as it would screw my reg game up.

I was planning to hold a vote on the GGun, but I think it will be added..
Once people register, I will begin tayloring the server to the likes of the majority. So, maybe that will keep you interested, if not, thanks forr stopping by.

this thread is lame, not cause of the mod but because of shellshocked players being liek ZOMG SHELL IS TEH HAX and hl2dm peeps are liek NO STOCK IS SO G00D thats all I've seen in this thread not much about its actual topic tho...

.::TTK::.TW3@K3R wrote:I agree but to jump into a tournament right away.. I will wait a bit..

well just look for a stock player, or jump on #hl2dm and get a friendly scrim to try it out.

Or do like some stock teams do with low grav teams play one round with stock then the next with the mod'd version

PwNs3ttia wrote:this thread is lame, not cause of the mod but because of shellshocked players being liek ZOMG SHELL IS TEH HAX and hl2dm peeps are liek NO STOCK IS SO G00D thats all I've seen in this thread not much about its actual topic tho...

We are hearing from other clans out there that they are interested & yes some want Gravity Gun, some want Low G, ect. The Tourney is what it is. We are just looking for people to register a team and come play with us to find out who is the best shellshock team in HL2.
So registering your team is cool, we will have some fun.
Wanna protest STX III or shellshock, not cool. Long live the invitation that turned into a lame debate.