"OFFICIAL" CAL Popular choice maps 4v4

You can vote for up to 4 maps for the popular choice maps, you should vote for the top maps you cannot live without. The top maps will be used to fill popular choice slots for this division. This is a revote the votes in the previous polls do not count.

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Fearsome you might want to add a comment on how long the polls will be open.

Can someone explain why this thread ever existed? The votes were pretty much ignored, so why did we bother?

top four got in, although top 4 would never really be in question. The older maps that are in that look like they have ran there course is what the poll shows, avalon and swamplight.

I'm confused too. Milieu a map we never voted for is in twice, and the most popular voted map, LV is in the rotation once, the second most popular caverns, once as well. The maps you mentioned that failed the vote are in the rotation anyway.

It's called the illusion of a democracy. Pacify the masses with a vote, then put in what you want. They won't notice, they're too stupid. Right?

lol wtf is swamplight doing in cal still?

Va|iums wrote:I'm confused too. Milieu a map we never voted for is in twice, and the most popular voted map, LV is in the rotation once, the second most popular caverns, once as well. The maps you mentioned that failed the vote are in the rotation anyway.

Milieu is a preseason map because it is new. The same thing with dm_lockdown_r5. It gives people a chance to play it once before they have to play it officially. It took dm_cannon's place, would you rather play that, I wouldn't?

There are 8 weeks of regular season, so 8 maps, 8 weeks, no repeats during those weeks. The semifinals and finals have not been posted yet.

lol wtf is swamplight doing in cal still?

Kinda wondered this myself considering both icepick and Octagon got more votes. I am guessing, because the top 4 took 4 spots the rest were left as is?

Paradox wrote:Milieu is a preseason map because it is new. The same thing with dm_lockdown_r5. It gives people a chance to play it once before they have to play it officially. It took dm_cannon's place, would you rather play that, I wouldn't?

There are 8 weeks of regular season, so 8 maps, 8 weeks, no repeats during those weeks. The semifinals and finals have not been posted yet.

lol wtf is swamplight doing in cal still?

Kinda wondered this myself considering both icepick and Octagon got more votes. I am guessing, because the top 4 took 4 spots the rest were left as is?

I thought preseason was to weed out the crap teams? So really people will not get a chance to play since preseason is for forfeits.....

Fearsome always wanted to do this 4 maps by public and 4 by admins deal.

dm_carverns
dm_lostvillage
dm_zeta
dm_lockdown

then by admins

dm_amplitude
dm_milieu

and the crap left over

dm_avalon
dm_swamplight

just wanted to note that

dm or tdm_warlock

there is only dm_warlock_r4

rest should be ignored.

Well I don't know what preseason was originally intended for, but I see that it can have several purposes

To weed out BS teams. I wish I was a mind reader and could know which teams will play and which won't and get them out ahead of time. I also wish we had locked main to only teams that had played before to avoid the problem with that division.

To introduce new maps so that people can try them
To get new people used to having to take ss and demos and getting the whole bloody procedure down

To allow the not so new
teams to refamiliarize themselves with the bloody procedure

To make sure the damn buggy CAL site is working

I can't speak to how the vote factored (or not) into the map list. I can only speculate because it was pretty much out of my hands.

ninojman wrote:Fearsome always wanted to do this 4 maps by public and 4 by admins deal.

i was not consulted.

Paradox wrote:To make sure the damn buggy CAL site is working

still a big fail.

Preseason has always been used to playtest new league maps. Thats nothing new.

The voting was partially ignored in 1v1 as well- feudal got more votes than zeta or drift, but they made the cut and feudal didnt. Not sure what the point of a top 8 vote was if half the results werent going to be used... could just as easily have done a top 4 vote, used those and had the admins choose the final 4, as that seemed to be the plan in any case.

Ko-Tao wrote:could just as easily have done a top 4 vote, used those and had the head admin choose the final 4, as that seemed to be the plan in any case.

fixed

As previously stated, the lower level admins did not pick any of the maps. I was asked if there was one map that I would want to see but I thought the one I would have chosen was going to be in anyway. I apparently also misunderstood how the maps were being done. Had I realized, Icepick would probably have replaced Swamplight and I would have picked Icepick because of the number of votes it had. As far as I am aware, the head admin, whomever they were, has always chosen the maps since season 1.

Paradox wrote:As far as I am aware, the head admin, whomever they were, has always chosen the maps since season 1.

I chose most of the 1v1 maps for the length of my adminship, though i did have the occasional decision vetod. Cant recall if the 2v2/4v4 admins ever had any say in the maps; i believe not, but then those divisions were also running prior to my time as admin.

Thanks for the clarification. Like I said, I was not sure. All I can say is that this is my 3rd season as admin and I have never had any decision making ability on the maps with the exception of being able to pick one map per season starting my second season as admin. I made a poll between two maps and the winner got in: dm_Joyride.