REVOTE "OFFICIAL" CAL Popular choice maps 1v1

Vote Again The first poll had a mistake.

You can vote for up to 4 maps for the popular choice maps, you should vote for the top maps you cannot live without. The top maps will be used to fill popular choice slots for this division. This is a revote the votes in the previous polls do not count.

These maps are still missing; all three were nominated, and feudal had 3rd or 4th place in the previous vote:

dm_feudal
dm_lockdown
dm_stamina

dm_lockdown and stamina being left out is my fault, not fearsome's

dm_feudal was in the list I sent IDK what happened to it.

l33thuania 1v1 ???

It was nominated Valar so its there.

The cut and paste seems to have failed or something so revote. Sorry.

LOL

dm_lockdown is still missing.

GO OVERWATCH! YES!

wheres the original lockdown, it is somehow missing again...

It was not listed in the nomination threads it was listed in the other poll threads.

Armageddon is a must. Plus arm would be pleased to see his work come to fruition.

Wasn't Arm the hacker?

thats what they say.

I love armageddon, would be ok for 1v1.. some of the other maps, I just don't see ow the got nominated... whatcha people drinkin

It was not listed in the nomination threads it was listed in the other poll threads.

http://www.hl2dm-university.com/forum/p ... =16&t=2563

The "official" nominations thread, 6th post down: original dm_lockdown (with bugfixes), nominated by me for both 1v1 and 2v2.

original dm_lockdown (with bugfixes)

Does this map even exist? dm_lockdown exists, but the original version has an assload of problems. dm_lockdown_r4 is a much improved version of dm_lockdown with numerous bugfixes and is much more suited for competitive play. So if you're not referring to r4, then you're referring to a map that does not even exist and shouldn't be included in an official list lol..

Wasn't Arm the hacker?

No it was an accusation made by one or more people(s) that I wont mention for the sake of they're own reputation that they sought to embolden.

Wasn't Arm the hacker?

No it was an accusation made by one or more people(s) that I wont mention for the sake of they're own reputation that they sought to embolden.

Uh, Arm hacked. Like blatantly. I'm saying that in public, screw anyone who thinks he was legit, he wasn't.

original dm_lockdown (with bugfixes)

Does this map even exist? dm_lockdown exists, but the original version has an assload of problems. dm_lockdown_r4 is a much improved version of dm_lockdown with numerous bugfixes and is much more suited for competitive play. So if you're not referring to r4, then you're referring to a map that does not even exist and shouldn't be included in an official list lol..

lockdown_r4 and joyride_r1 arent finished either, but they made the nominations list nevertheless and are up for voting.

Im pretty sure when future revisions of existing maps are nominated or suggested for inclusion in the league, its on the assumption that theyll be completed in time for the main season- which isnt a problem for either of the nominated maps im revising, and i should hope wont be a problem for ldr4 either.

Whether or not ldr4 is superior or inferior to a bugfixed original ld isnt the discussion here; thats what the votings for, though its obviously hard to make a choice if one of the maps isnt on the list.

CAL vote map posts = ignorance

I suggest you destroy all threads of unoffical, offical, nominate, blah blah posts and start over from scratch, with a detailed paragraph on what makes a map acceptable.

I seriously wonder why you even bother, to get the community involved in their tournament maps, but we all know what the maps will be. Same as last season, and the one before it...

oh yeah, where the hell is dm_joyride.

I vote for rachkir's post

Guys we have already restarted this once. I for one would like to see the new season start before Christmas. We can have another vote after the next season. So just vote on the maps listed and lets get done with it!!!

Well the point of this is to pick popular maps, so there was no point of spelling out what makes a good map, obviously just making a good high quality map will not make it popular. Every season the admins have selected different maps to fit different roles in the league. Some maps like lost village are there because the community probably could not live without them these maps are called popular choice and are for the most part exempt from all other critiqueing of a map that normally goes into selecting maps. The main reason the map vote happened this season instead of the admins just selecting them was because some people complained that the admins did not know what the popular maps were any more and that it was stupid of us to assume that something like lostvillage was still popular. So rather then being blamed for picking the wrong maps on behalf of the community we simply let the community vote on the maps they cannot live without. And that is what this is.

Wasn't Arm the hacker?

No it was an accusation made by one or more people(s) that I wont mention for the sake of they're own reputation that they sought to embolden.

Uh, Arm hacked. Like blatantly. I'm saying that in public, screw anyone who thinks he was legit, he wasn't.

That's funny. Each to their own. I know him on a personal basis and know that isn't the case.

That's funny. Each to their own. I know him on a personal basis and know that isn't the case.

That's funny, I have a couple demos of him blatantly aimbotting.

Well the point of this is to pick popular maps, so there was no point of spelling out what makes a good map, obviously just making a good high quality map will not make it popular. Every season the admins have selected different maps to fit different roles in the league. Some maps like lost village are there because the community probably could not live without them these maps are called popular choice and are for the most part exempt from all other critiqueing of a map that normally goes into selecting maps. The main reason the map vote happened this season instead of the admins just selecting them was because some people complained that the admins did not know what the popular maps were any more and that it was stupid of us to assume that something like lostvillage was still popular. So rather then being blamed for picking the wrong maps on behalf of the community we simply let the community vote on the maps they cannot live without. And that is what this is.

I am pretty sure the reason people were mad is because bad and untested maps like dm_cannon_R1 got forced into the rotation

I am pretty sure the reason people were mad is because bad and untested maps like dm_cannon_R1 got forced into the rotation

It has been suggested numerous times that the only maps that are picked are ones that $W does well on.

Well now people not only get to suggest maps but also to vote on them.

They didn't do too well on caverns.

Haha, I couldn't resist.

That's funny. Each to their own. I know him on a personal basis and know that isn't the case.

That's funny, I have a couple demos of him blatantly aimbotting.

That's like saying vdrei hacked. >:D

Cannon was a rotational map like Caverns, which is not a popular choice map so it has nothing to do with this poll or my reasons for running it. It is simply a map that is chosen to rotate into the season which may or may not ever return to mix things up because some people feel that the league needs variety and I think it is good for people to have to learn a new map with a different play style each season to keep them on their toes.

Arm was placed on a list of cheaters death angel its not just like saying vdrie hacked. Lots of people actually carefully looked over the demo found evidence which was beyond reasonable to doubt before making the decision. To put it into perspective neither invx or grain have achieved this.

Arm was placed on a list of cheaters deathwish its not just like saying vdrie hacked. Lots of people actually carefully looked over the demo found evidence which was beyond reasonable to doubt before making the decision. To put it into perspective neither invx or grain have achieved this.

Thanks for the backup, and it was deathangel not deathwish who was disagreeing with me, I doubt deathwish even knows who we're talking about.

In any case guys its all water under the bridge, do we really need to dredge the bottom of the cesspool right now?

i asked this:
start over from scratch, with a detailed paragraph on what makes a map acceptable.

fearsome wrote this:
there was no point of spelling out what makes a good map, obviously just making a good high quality map will not make it popular.

so the guy who nominates maps based on what he likes has a good chance they will not make the poll because he does not know the guidelines for map nomination.

Now. Where The Hell Is DM_JOYRIDE

this whole map topic stuff makes me not like CAL. It was handle like a dirty diaper by lazy parents.

kill the poll (seriously)and kill the admins(not seriously). Vote for Hillary and Tipper in 2012.

Rackir, dm_Joyride was not nominated as a 1v1 map. If you wanted it you should have nominated it.

The map nominations and polls were done because people constantly bitched about the maps so we decided to let people nominate potential maps then vote on what they wanted from that list so that people could have input into their league.

Some of us are so sick and tired of the damned if you do damned if you don't situation of being a CAL admin. We are not going to redo the damn poll again. I am not going to spend another week fucking around with this. You had plently of opportunity to get your input in. You will probably get another chance next season if this hasn't turned out to be more of a hassle than its worth. Next time we can just stick with the same damn maps end of story.

Some of you need to remember something: This is a VOLUNTEER position, we don't get paid to do this and its not anyones job. I am not going to spend all of my free time trying to accommodate people who do nothing but bitch no matter what we do. Can't make everyone happy and that's all there is to it.

i asked this:
start over from scratch, with a detailed paragraph on what makes a map acceptable.

fearsome wrote this:
there was no point of spelling out what makes a good map, obviously just making a good high quality map will not make it popular.

so the guy who nominates maps based on what he likes has a good chance they will not make the poll because he does not know the guidelines for map nomination.

Now. Where The Hell Is DM_JOYRIDE

this whole map topic stuff makes me not like CAL. It was handle like a dirty diaper by lazy parents.

kill the poll (seriously)and kill the admins(not seriously). Vote for Hillary and Tipper in 2012.

blah blah blah go /wrists already.

ah, yes I thought I did vote for dm_joyride, but I guess not, cannot find my post about that, unless the thread was deleted.

yet another good post from voxtex. god bless the U.

Maybe if last CAL season wasn't put on hold for so long, and fucked up over false accusations and family vacations, this season would've turned out better...

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not a clue..........i shouldnt be here.........




exits quietly.................

Maybe if last CAL season wasn't put on hold for so long, and fucked up over false accusations and family vacations, this season would've turned out better...

My comment had nothing to do with the events of last season, as unfortunate and frustrating as it was for many of us.

The polls were an attempt to give players (YOU GUYS) a chance to have some input into CAL, which is what we have heard that was wanted. It just seems like no matter what we try, someone complains. It makes me wonder if we should even try cause people are gona complain no matter what we do and I for one could use my time more constructively if thats the case. For the record, I didnt even vote in the polls myself.

Enough rant, moving on...

I dont wanna be an ass but i can't revote and i only had half the map choice that is currenly avaiable atm. SO say i'd be like " OH SHIT THEY ADDED X MAP" I couldnt vote for it because I already voted? Sorry if it forces a re-vote ( i dont wanna change mines ) But isnt it a bit odd?

When we added other maps, we completely redid the poll so you should have been able to vote for any of them....so WTF

yeah con I was able to vote for a second time, not sure why you couldn't.

must'vr been under the influence of alcohol, my bad

I'm disappointed and surprised that avalon only got 3 votes.

I'm disappointed and surprised that avalon only got 3 votes.

It's a bit big for 1v1.

avalon is a terrible map for 1v1. One person camps top and the other camps bottom, match ends up 1-0 or 2-1, can't remember who it was but thats what happened last season in a match on avalon.

is dm_frenzy even considered?

It was not nominated


Can a board member please lock these threads?!

yea, and avalon has way too much bugs in it, so many places you can get stuck in randomly. When I played ko tao this season on avalon, I got stuck in a random place, i think it was under the xbow bridge, and stayed there for a good 3 - 5 minutes, and 3 - 5 minutes is really important in a 1v1.

yea, and avalon has way too much bugs in it, so many places you can get stuck in randomly. When I played ko tao this season on avalon, I got stuck in a random place, i think it was under the xbow bridge, and stayed there for a good 3 - 5 minutes, and 3 - 5 minutes is really important in a 1v1.

it makes for lulz filled sourcetv though...

yea, and avalon has way too much bugs in it, so many places you can get stuck in randomly. When I played ko tao this season on avalon, I got stuck in a random place, i think it was under the xbow bridge, and stayed there for a good 3 - 5 minutes, and 3 - 5 minutes is really important in a 1v1.

it makes for lulz filled sourcetv though...

Heh ya, wasnt lulz for me though as i was down a frag or two at the time and needed to catch up... was almost impossible to see him stuck inside one of those rock models as he was. As said though, avalon has a load of bugs and some sick hiding spots, and the mapper refuses to fix it or let us do so, so its better off gone.