Dallas / anticheat / efps - HL2DMU Forum Archive

Fearsome*

2010-08-01 08:23:22

I did not ask for you to say if you think it flag me as a cheater, I asked what the outcome would be based on the anticheat plugin that was developed. As in what will happen not what do you think should happen.

Da1

2010-08-01 11:56:41

Actually you didn't ask any of that, the way you said it made it come off sarcastic. I figured it was that way based your recent posts of complaints about how eFPS is going to be ran.

But in any case Valiums answered your question, and by the way there is a PM option and you do have my on steam friends.

{EE}chEmicalbuRn

2010-08-01 18:01:01

i think Dal's response was similar to the response you would have given to somebody who questioned your authority/admin methods when you were running CAL.

Fearsome*

2010-08-03 05:03:31

You seem to be interpreting my tone over the internet which is no possible and therefore mistake prone.

Second as a person who maps and a person who runs a league you should know that it is very likely and legitimate for people to have those commands bound. That you do not or think that no one has any reason to is very odd dont you scan demos for cheaters? Don't you use commands to see through walls and to tweak the performance of your maps when developing them? Would it not be easier just to bind those commands to keys as many people do?

Da1

2010-08-03 06:06:29

And you would know for a fact that many people do bind those keys right??

Okay Fearsome, you still make no sense.

Neolinkster

2010-08-03 06:48:51

Fearsome* wrote:You seem to be interpreting my tone over the internet which is no possible and therefore mistake prone.

Second as a person who maps and a person who runs a league you should know that it is very likely and legitimate for people to have those commands bound. That you do not or think that no one has any reason to is very odd dont you scan demos for cheaters? Don't you use commands to see through walls and to tweak the performance of your maps when developing them? Would it not be easier just to bind those commands to keys as many people do?

just as easy to place those commands into an easy to remember cfg Fearsome so you can just type exec haxerwatch.cfg without having to worry about accidently pushing the wrong button

Fearsome*

2010-08-12 22:58:28

I know for fact that some people do bind those keys and that no one should be banned for running them or accidentally running them unless they bypass . Which was contrary to what you seemed to think. And if an anticheat was to detect them it would be the duty of any honest admin to know this and disclose it to anyone involved in the league with fair warning.

Think of it like this I design an anticheat to ban people if they have any player footstep sounds or models replaced in their directories. This should not matter if I was on a pure 2 server but it would have banned you dallas even though you were unable to use them during league matches with sv_pure 2 enabled.

And as I said the troubling part is not so much that some random hl2dm player made that statement but that a league admin and mapper did it.

Da1

2010-08-13 10:49:20

People shouldn't have those keys bound, end of story.

Thanks.

Shoobie

2010-08-14 02:46:19

It's not like having it bound making you a cheater? There must be a better way to detect some a hacker the see what commands they use? r_drawothermodels 2 isn't a hack. I don't see the point banning people for it. The method of the plugin it's questionable as it isn't certain at all. Therefore you shouldn't use such device as a judge of hacking as typing r_drawothermodels 2 isn't a hack. It's a built in cheat code, it's not illigal to type it in. Ofc it will be if you bypass the game but typing it isn't.

Therefore your plugin is invalid as proof of hacking, it is not constructed correctly.

Da1

2010-08-14 02:59:34

To make things clear one last time. The plugin DOESN'T ban a player for typing any of those commands in console, only if they are using a LUA script to do so.

Fearsome*

2010-08-16 09:14:42

People shouldn't have loud footsteps for rebels PERIOD.

Va|iums

2010-08-16 09:23:59

Shoobie wrote:It's not like having it bound making you a cheater? There must be a better way to detect some a hacker the see what commands they use? r_drawothermodels 2 isn't a hack. I don't see the point banning people for it. The method of the plugin it's questionable as it isn't certain at all. Therefore you shouldn't use such device as a judge of hacking as typing r_drawothermodels 2 isn't a hack. It's a built in cheat code, it's not illigal to type it in. Ofc it will be if you bypass the game but typing it isn't.

Therefore your plugin is invalid as proof of hacking, it is not constructed correctly.

Well for about the fourth time I've stated in other threads just the commands alone will not ban. You must execute a LUA script FIRST. Go try our eFPS servers and try any of the impulse or console cheats, it wont ban for it.

Da1

2010-08-16 18:36:36

Fearsome* wrote:People shouldn't have loud footsteps for rebels PERIOD.

Okay seagull. lawl. I don't and never did. get over yourselves (:

srslyNOTnewguy

2010-08-17 00:59:00

Da1 wrote:Okay seagull. lawl. I don't and never did. get over yourselves (:

Easy Dallas. It's OK. Lighten-up

Fear is just building material for his act, but I don't think he needs to.
When I saw the photos of the SW lan I seriously laughed at fearsome for a good 20 minutes.

All he would need to do is just stand on the stage and the crowd would just erupt at the very joke he is.

Hell, him and seagull both should get HBO specials.

zeik

2010-08-17 03:32:31

srslyNOTnewguy wrote: When I saw the photos of the SW lan

Link please.

srslyNOTnewguy

2010-08-17 10:27:29

http://s36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/T ... _luke.jpg&
Pic 2 of 329, from left its fear, conflict, luke.

To luke + con + other con: I love you.
To fear: get over yourself.

Va|iums

2010-08-17 10:39:19

srslyNOTnewguy wrote:http://s36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/T ... _luke.jpg&
Pic 2 of 329, from left its fear, conflict, luke.

To luke + con + other con: I love you.
To fear: get over yourself.

LOL WTF. Sooooo luke looks exactly like I expected, wiry, tall, smart, slightly conceited but loveable. Consti looks EXACTLY like I expected, a little shorter, energetic and brash. Conflict looks like a fucking bear jesus, if Luke is supposed to be about 6'2-6'3 that would make Conflict 6'5 about. Remind me not to fuck with conflict if I go to Canada.

Also ninjins lawl, he acts like a douche, looks like a douche but I still love him. Edge, yeah pretty normal.

@fearsome..... yeah what can I say, thats unfortunate. Still he's not the 40+ year old guy corpse I thought he was lawl.

zeik

2010-08-17 11:12:47

hehehe.

REJECTED

2010-08-17 19:37:05

Jesus, I didn't know we were all in grade school. Grow the fuck up.

Mr. Nervous

2010-08-17 20:48:38

oh damn, edge looks just like some pro tf2 player (forgot his name lol)

koncentrate

2010-08-17 20:50:26

REJECTED wrote:Jesus, I didn't know we were all in grade school. Grow the fuck up.

Va|iums

2010-08-17 21:58:30

REJECTED wrote:Jesus, I didn't know we were all in grade school. Grow the fuck up.

Ye, sorry I got excited to see people I've been playing against for 4 years for the first time in an actual photo. You'll also realize people don't grow up, appearance is everything. Go to a dinner with millionaires and find out how much people care, they care more then gradeschoolers trust me.

Also if me, bahlk, blas have a LAN next summer we'll post up our pics if anyone cares. I'll be sure to wear tight clothes for fap material in case anyone here is gay.

the_big_cheese

2010-08-17 22:21:04

God you are such a pretentious prick Valiums

REJECTED

2010-08-17 22:37:50

Va|iums wrote:Go to a dinner with millionaires and find out how much people care...

As if money is everything; I'm talking about showing others respect, and showing some decency. Hanging with millionaires who seem to have everything going in life, does not mean they are what everyone should strive to be. They can be just as much of a prick as you've shown to be here, in this thread, and many other places.

I'm saying, just because you don't particularly agree with Fearsome, or you may not like him, does not mean you have to stoop to those levels, of attacking him. This, is why, I am saying grow up, because it's the kind behaviour you see most of the time in kids from grade school, who are insecure and trying to show everyone how awesome they are.

That's all.

Va|iums

2010-08-17 23:08:16

the_big_cheese wrote:God you are such a pretentious prick Valiums

I love you too. Glad to see you're still my biggest fan.

Believe me I've been around an invester who degraded his trophy wife right in front of everyone for a dinner joke, there's alot bigger pricks then me once you get out in the big bad world.

CellarDweller

2010-08-17 23:48:42

Va|iums wrote:
the_big_cheese wrote:God you are such a pretentious prick Valiums
I love you too. Glad to see you're still my biggest fan.

Believe me I've been around an invester who degraded his trophy wife right in front of everyone for a dinner joke, there's alot bigger pricks then me once you get out in the big bad world.

someone needs to make val a tshirt...

not the biggest prick
bigger prick ------->
average sized prick
not a big prick, because size does matter

Da1

2010-08-17 23:57:28

And so does spelling.

Investor* (:

Hang with the big shots you gotta know how to spell what they do

Va|iums

2010-08-18 00:21:00

Da1 wrote:And so does spelling.

Investor* (:

Hang with the big shots you gotta know how to spell what they do

I think the man in my avatar disagrees with you

Shoobie

2010-08-19 13:22:35

So if it doesn't ban people executing the command what's the problem with having it bound then?

Paradox

2010-08-19 21:26:32

People are people no matter how much money they have or dont, what religion, nationality, whatever.

I know several people that are millionares and you would never know that they have more money than God. Many of them are the most down to Earth people you would ever care to meet. There are others that the money and power go to their head and they stomp on everyone they feel are beneath them. By the same token I know people with no money that can be just as big or bigger assholes than the rich ones, and other lower income people that would give you the shirt off their back if you needed it.

Money or the lack of it has nothing to do with personality or heart and for the most part it doesnt change who you are although I am sure there are some exceptions.

Va|iums

2010-08-19 23:52:13

Shoobie wrote:So if it doesn't ban people executing the command what's the problem with having it bound then?

There is none. This thread was basically a useless pissing arguement between dal and fearsome even though I believe Fearsome already had his answered question well before this thread.

@para, I didnt mean to generalize like that, yes its very true the upper class isnt full of soulless people. I'm speaking from my own personal experiences about appearences when my dad dated the former executive vice president of Rockwell corp. that the dinners we went to people would judge you on how your fucking pocket square was folded or how you held your silverware. I still hold to my guns I've never met some more soulless, heartless people then some of those people. But hey, after some painful lessons if anyone needs tips on when sport jackets with gold buttons are appropriate or not, or why 2 button coats are more fashionable then three button coats give me a hollar son.

zeik

2010-08-20 03:16:29

Shoobie wrote:So if it doesn't ban people executing the command what's the problem with having it bound then?

Exactly lmao.

sisterFISTER

2010-10-23 09:04:22

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Blasphemy

2010-10-23 20:27:52

The Argumentalizer

2010-10-23 21:06:04

the_big_cheese wrote:God you are such a pretentious prick Valiums

Ahahahahahaha...
Hilarious.
True.