HL2DN 6 2/17/08 discussion

discuss.....

I will make it most likely, is there a skill requirement?

No its just to have fun and get some match experience.

Well.....what maps do we want to do?
I personally am not fussy over what maps so long as I have em on my server if its needed. The only thing is they have to be large enough maps to accomodate 8 players. I wouldnt mind trying out a non CAL map if server operators can get the map on their servers. Might be a good way to see if there are other maps that might be good for CAL in the future. One that comes to mind is dm_Octagon.

I think the start time is good (6PM eastern), We ended at 11PM last time with the final round. Some people thought that was long. I would ask that teams dont stay afk too long between rounds and matches so we can keep it flowing.

Picking the teams takes time plain and simple. If people make sure they are in Vent by 6:15 then we can have enough to start picking earlier. I dont think the system is flawed, its that alot of people showed up late and we had to start late because there werent enough people.

I was kinda ticked that the team we played the final with was not the team that started. I think 3 of them were subs. It kinda defeats the purpose of a team. Not sure what the solution is there.

just my 0.02 cents plus inflation

I would like to try caverns in a 4v4
Last time I had a great time, but I think that most of us agree in the fact that it was kind of unorganized. Hopefully we can improve that this time.
I'll most likely be able to play... but the sooner the better ...last time I went to sleep at 3 am I think, which doesn't matter now cuz I'm on vacations, but that is reaching to an end D:

well everyone that lost their match in the draft, left vent. no one went into the pool, so whoever was on that team really had no other choice.

as for maps, i've yet to play octagon (i did play A octagon, that was.. literally that, and not very well suited for 8 people), i tihnk the oen paradox means is the quake map that was converted?

We could use The Hat program for choosing teams quickly as conflict suggested.

As far as maps, I'd like to see caverns especially.

Yeah dm_octagon by Swot, not dm_octagon_v1 the arena.

I think its good to try and uses different maps on each draft night we already done caverns and Avalon and think we should do a other different map. Octagon i great map but takes time getting used to it in terms of how u move around the map and holding areas. Also would like to see people try and get the rpg on that map mass suicide ahahah.

Also would like to see people try and get the rpg on that map mass suicide ahahah.

Is it even possible?

I started working Sundays now during draft time. I'm sad because I really liked the draft. If I can catch a draft sometime I'll pitch in my two cents.

dm_octagon is a good suggestion .. the only problem I see happening is people not already having the map.. and it's 70 megs non compressed. 30 megs compressed.

I will always be happy seeing dm_caverns_r1 being played.

two other maps which come to mind which would probably work well for the draft are dm_swamplight_final and dm_vault .. both maps are being used next week for cal so it would us give some experience playing them.

MeekMeekle wrote:two other maps which come to mind which would probably work well for the draft are dm_swamplight_final and dm_vault .. both maps are being used next week for cal so it would us give some experience playing them.

Good point. I agree.

no to vault.

way to small. 1v1 at best and 2v2 is even pushing it, with 8 ppl in that map we would be better off playing aim 4v4

MeekMeekle wrote:dm_octagon is a good suggestion .. the only problem I see happening is people not already having the map.. and it's 70 megs non compressed. 30 megs compressed.

I will always be happy seeing dm_caverns_r1 being played.

two other maps which come to mind which would probably work well for the draft are dm_swamplight_final and dm_vault .. both maps are being used next week for cal so it would us give some experience playing them.

its a large map, but you have a week to download it... i dont want to discourage people from playing a map if its good because its large, its not like lostvillage_v2 or what ever, where theres an original of half the size and better textures...

vault is way to damn small, and with all the deadends.. makes a better 1v1 map then anything team based, i'm not a swamplight fan either, but it is in cal and a decent team play map.

i just think we should be introducing people to new maps, even if cals not running them, as long as they fit the bill right?

0nti wrote:

Also would like to see people try and get the rpg on that map mass suicide ahahah.

Is it even possible?

Yes, but I have got that rpg twice out of who knows how many attempts, it's definately something I don't go for in a match, the jump length is simple it's negotiating the ceiling that gets ya.

w00t draft night tomorrow I'm there! We must play dm_octagon its such a good map. Imo its one of the most underplayed great maps out there simply because of its size issue. Granted its not a map you put on a pub, but if people just download it from a third party before entering the server it wouldn't be a problem for things like draft nights or 2v2's and such like. Swamplight if fun with enough people.

Ghost Dog_TSGK wrote:

0nti wrote:

Also would like to see people try and get the rpg on that map mass suicide ahahah.

Is it even possible?

Yes, but I have got that rpg twice out of who knows how many attempts, it's definately something I don't go for in a match, the jump length is simple it's negotiating the ceiling that gets ya.

yea i can get to the rpg 2 times out of three but its getting back that i have not mastered and people say it easier getting back . I know a clan that in scrims can get the rpg every time and dominate in that map with it. There are also some orb tricks and crossbow shots you can do in that map. Its a shame that people don't play this map i guess it because u have to adjust your game play because there are few maps that are similar to this with its three levels as well with multiple ways to flank and ambush your enemy.

st00pidity wrote:

MeekMeekle wrote:dm_octagon is a good suggestion .. the only problem I see happening is people not already having the map.. and it's 70 megs non compressed. 30 megs compressed.

I will always be happy seeing dm_caverns_r1 being played.

two other maps which come to mind which would probably work well for the draft are dm_swamplight_final and dm_vault .. both maps are being used next week for cal so it would us give some experience playing them.

its a large map, but you have a week to download it... i dont want to discourage people from playing a map if its good because its large, its not like lostvillage_v2 or what ever, where theres an original of half the size and better textures...

vault is way to damn small, and with all the deadends.. makes a better 1v1 map then anything team based, i'm not a swamplight fan either, but it is in cal and a decent team play map.

i just think we should be introducing people to new maps, even if cals not running them, as long as they fit the bill right?

I'm confused. Draft Night the 17th or the 24th?

SND wrote:

Ghost Dog_TSGK wrote:

0nti wrote: Is it even possible?

Yes, but I have got that rpg twice out of who knows how many attempts, it's definately something I don't go for in a match, the jump length is simple it's negotiating the ceiling that gets ya.

yea i can get to the rpg 2 times out of three but its getting back that i have not mastered and people say it easier getting back . I know a clan that in scrims can get the rpg every time and dominate in that map with it. There are also some orb tricks and crossbow shots you can do in that map. Its a shame that people don't play this map i guess it because u have to adjust your game play because there are few maps that are similar to this with its three levels as well with multiple ways to flank and ambush your enemy.

If the easiest part is getting back O_O I need to work on that xD
I seriously consider getting back the hardest.

This map is a great choice IMO, just be sure you have HDR lighting off when playing :S I found out the hard way.

Epoch wrote:Granted its not a map you put on a pub

Why dont you think so? I run it on my pub, its popular and works fine.

yea i have it on my pub server as well but thing is not many servers have this map and people tend to not join servers that have maps that they are not familiar with.

Arg, I was all excited about draft night and then I totally forgot. Got home last night and one of my roomates was just cracking into a 24 rack and the other was cleaning the beer bong; needless to say, I lost focus lol.

Paradox wrote:

Epoch wrote:Granted its not a map you put on a pub

Why dont you think so? I run it on my pub, its popular and works fine.

I say that because the file size is HUGE, not many people will wait for 5 minutes for a map to dl that they've never played before. At least that was my experience when I put it on my pub back in the day. I'd have a full game going, map would change to dm_octagaon and the people would drop like flies, and boom 10 person ffa turns into a 1v1. Don't get me wrong dm_octagon is definately one of my all time favs, its file is just ginormous.

Missed it by 10 minutes!! Went in there and teams were alredy made =(

Play Freerunner. That map is awesome.