Hl2dn 8 3/16/08

what maps would you like to see?

Sorry i didn't stay i was feeling like shit, hope everything went ok. I was ok but then i heard stown3d voice and i got a bad headache and had to take a nap.

dm_lostvillage_v2 er w/e I name it .

dm_lockdown_r3.

Final- dm_zeta_prefinal.

dm_lockdown_r3

dm_lockdown_r3

LD and LD_r3 I think have been way over played as I think they were the 3rd and 4th and maybe 5th Draft Night picks? It's just so overplayed and some people have WAY too much experience on those maps.

lets not play zeta again for the final. I like the first two. May be overwatch or resident we have not played those as far as i can tell.

dm_lostvillage_v2 er w/e I name it .

dm_lockdown_r3.

Final- dm_zeta_prefinal.

yeah these are the maps with the most play time, while lv and ld_r3 are great i don't know if zeta is really that great for 4v4, althou it's like a revision of overwatch for team play. Have to say i hate the colors in lv_v2

I'll give this thread til thrusday, then post a poll til next thrusday for the maps for draft night 8. I'd like to see some different maps but whatever ppl want is fine with me.

dm_slammer

dm_slammer

wtf is that? D: =O

May be overwatch or resident we have not played those as far as i can tell.

If there was a revised version of overwatch I wouldn't mind I guess, but a 4v4 with 2 health packs and 1 charger? plus the few weapons on that map, that will be a "spawn and grav-nade kill people" match ..lol
Regarding resident ...sorry I never liked it =/

Maybe u guys can try the version of resident made by cartel for CU:

dm_resident_r1

http://www.clans-united.net/index.php?s ... &topic=994

I dunno how good it is because I havent tried it, but it sounds promising.

note: past maps

Round 1 Round 2 Date

1)
2) dm_lockdown dm_lostvillage dec 9 2007
3) dm_lockdown_r3 dm_lostvillage jan 6 2008
4) dm_caverns_r1 dm_biohazard_cal jan 20
5) dm_avalon_b1 dm_zeta_prefinal feb 10
6) dm_swamplight dm_octagon feb 17
7) ?

whats was played this past week?

I'd like to see amp_r1 or that other map by the same mapper.

and people like dm_resident ?

resident r1 needs an r2 and i even told them...after they made it...that the "r1" thing was cal and he said "woops" =/

but the map has some issues..

how about dm_stalk might be good for a 4v4

i wouldn't mind playing valars new map dm_warlock at some point.

I'd like to see overwatch thrown in the draft night.

i wouldn't mind playing valars new map dm_warlock at some point.

Valar said he would have a tdm version for warlock out soon, I think it'd be best to wait for that.

And dm_overwatch really turns into a spawn, and nade fest, with only one of each weapon it really sucks 4v4. little cover etc as Onti said.

Valar said he would have a tdm version for warlock out soon, I think it'd be best to wait for that.

sounds good.

amplitude has not yet been used as a week 1 map .. and can be used eventually.

amplitude has not yet been used as a week 1 map .. and can be used eventually.

i agree

round 1 you mean?

lol yeah. round 1.

thanks.

Yeah overwatch is 2v2 max IMO.

I agree, Overwatch is not a good 4v4 map. Not enough health, weaps, ammo, suit. Its also kind of small for 4v4.

dm_stalk (meh edit nevermind i thought it was a different version of this map are you sure about dm_stalkyard? i find it's to much work to get the few weapons scattered about and it ends up like overwatch. A spawn-nade + smg fest )

dm_amp

dm_lockdown_r3

dm_slammer
is what i got so far

(lv_v2 has a new version coming?)

pole goes up thrusday

well i tallied up the people that posted maps, didn't care/look at the negitive comments (ya i know i had some for a few maps aswell) The more pro comments for the maps the more it got into the poll. And put up a poll to run until thrusday before draft night.

I kinda like this format for picking maps what do you guys think?

NOTE: each person can vote twice.

resident_r1 has way too many weapons to be good for anything else but ffa.

resident_r1 has way too many weapons to be good for anything else but ffa.

someone requested it so i added it to the poll.

I'm not familar with the map, so i'm not sure which version would be best.

If it's the map i'm thinking about i really hate it.

didn't add this map into the vote wasn't sure when the full release for tdm was coming out

http://www.hl2dm-university.com/forum/p ... 9&start=40

which is a tdm version of dm_warlock it's still beta so we may what to test it still and give it a go draft 9.

Lockdown_r3 Amplitude_r1 Lostvillage_v2 sounds the best. I have the updated lostvillage_v3. I raised the skybox to an ungodly height, added a health kit, and changed a few textures. I'll post it to download in a hour or so. Gotta upload it. ;D

lockdown_r3, amplitude_r1, and Lostvillage_v3 would be an awesome draft night. Yes lockdown is over played, but thats the way its always gonna be lol. Its the de_dust of hl2dm lol. I'm actually gonna set a reminder on my cell for this draft night so I don't miss it this time. I've missed three so far, and I wanted to go to every one lol. RAWR.

lv_v3 can be downloaded in the Department of Arch.

you can use the version that's on the server now (66.55.158.70:27015). afaik there aren't any game-related issues. only a some minor visual fixes left to do.

No love for overwatch?

not for 4v4 lol.

not for 4v4 lol.

But LD and LD_r3 can be 1 v 1, 2 v 2, and 4 v 4? I'm confused and I'm personally just kind of bored with it.

I think it is because over watch only has 1 of each wep and only 2 healh packs. it's so open that every time someone spawns they are going to try to attack with a grenade right away .. and probably succeed.

Slammer is surprisingly good for a team game. Overwatch would only be good if we had a good mod for it specifically for 4v4.

...Overwatch would only be good if we had a good mod for it...

meaning. .. . ?

...Overwatch would only be good if we had a good mod for it...

meaning. .. . ?

Meaning if we used a different version of the map, I've seen a few out with some rooms on the outside buildings added, more health and more weapons also

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anyway looks like
Lockdown_r3 Amplitude_r1 Lostvillage_v3
will be the winner for this weeks draft night
make sure you upload/download lostvillage_v3 as that is the newest version

what in your opinions are the cons in overwatch? (apart from the center FPS drop as that is a given in this map)
interesting to know ppl's thoughts .. .

Cons:

Small...great for 1v1 or 2v2 but probably not more.
Many map exploits, mainly the surrounding rooftops and no draw issues on the main building.
Few pickups...again fine for 1v1 or 2v2.
Loads of props, could do with some of the less harmful ones removed imo.

what in your opinions are the cons in overwatch? (apart from the center FPS drop as that is a given in this map)
interesting to know ppl's thoughts .. .

not much help outside to clear the roof. A few extra nades scattered around would help, as with zeta. If the other team has the rpg, it can be very hard to get to the 357, 2 nades and 2 Smg nades. Only weapon you can't see from the RPG is the ar2. It's ok 1v1 or 2v2 because 1 or 2 people can't cover everything but with 4 you can lockdown the top basicly.

interesting.
um, ok what would happen...and that's only a wild idea right...if the map (or one that'd follow overwatch's theme) was doubled? as in two buildings = rooftops w/ RPG, making for a more even gameplay?
eh...?

interesting.
um, ok what would happen...and that's only a wild idea right...if the map (or one that'd follow overwatch's theme) was doubled? as in two buildings = rooftops w/ RPG, making for a more even gameplay?
eh...?

That would be very interesting . Give it a shot Valar Might be fun.

interesting.
um, ok what would happen...and that's only a wild idea right...if the map (or one that'd follow overwatch's theme) was doubled? as in two buildings = rooftops w/ RPG, making for a more even gameplay?
eh...?

I've thought i this before, It would make for an interesting game to say the least i think. Now are you thinking just having a mirror version of overwatch facing each other? Thats what i always envisioned having althou maybe the trucks would do better opening up the 357 by having to put more focus on the other side of the map. That or making some of the nearby building able to get inside and snipe from would be good for the map in 4v4 play. Althou your idea seems easy and would make things even. And it would make for a different gameplay where most is RPG control this you would be attacking a bit more with it, like 7hour.

lockdown_r3
amplitude_r1
http://www.caleague.com/?page=files

lostvillage_v3
http://www.hl2dm-university.com/forum/p ... f=5&t=1183

Now are you thinking just having a mirror version of overwatch facing each other?

eh...dunno...the lag (low FPS) you see when facing the center of the map might well increase when doubling everything...so a bit of "rearranging" may be called for...
i'll try both mirroring AND rebuilding..see how goes. my orig thought was to have everything twice + adding 3-4 more HPs and about 5 more nades.

see what happens.. thx for ure inputs for now.

Having the two buildings side by side might be better, instead of mirroring lengthwise. Optimizing a map like that shouldn't be very challenging for an experienced mapper, I've seen maps with stupid poly counts run well with proper use of hint brushes, occluders, etc.

decompile it and see for yourself. there're so many mapping errors in it its a hoot. to get over the lag you need to literally redo the map from scratch.
other than that standing almost anywhere is overwatch you get complete view of the whole map. not much to occlude here. tis a tough one no doubt.

decompile it and see for yourself. there're so many mapping errors in it its a hoot. to get over the lag you need to literally redo the map from scratch.
other than that standing almost anywhere is overwatch you get complete view of the whole map. not much to occlude here. tis a tough one no doubt.

Well when you decompile a Source map it's going to have hundreds of errors. Any change to the map beyond the entities means remaking the thing.

Overwatch and Lockdown were quick ports of single player maps, in the source file to lockdown they included in the sdk, there are still entity references to the removed soldiers, antlions, etc.

It wouldn't be a big project at all I think to remake it. That said, I'm not doing it

Well when you decompile a Source map it's going to have hundreds of errors.

not erros like brushes overlapping. source stock maps are a mess at best from a mapping pov.
you're right about ents but anyway..wasn't trying to start an argument... im just saying this is the toughest stock map to crack cuz of the way it was built (meh) AND planned (not).
other that that..heh. i believe i hijacked this thread. sry nino.

Well when you decompile a Source map it's going to have hundreds of errors.

not erros like brushes overlapping. source stock maps are a mess at best from a mapping pov.
you're right about ents but anyway..wasn't trying to start an argument... im just saying this is the toughest stock map to crack cuz of the way it was built (meh) AND planned (not).
other that that..heh. i believe i hijacked this thread. sry nino.

lockdown_r3
amplitude_r1
http://www.caleague.com/?page=files

dm_lockdown_r3 ftp://ftp.caleague.com/league_dm2v/dm_lockdown_r3.zip

dm_amplitude_r1 ftp://ftp.caleague.com/league_dm2v/dm_amplitude_r1.zip

How's this sunday, for Lockdown_r3 Amplitude_r1 Lostvillage_v2

i think we need to have a good draft since it has been a while since we did a full one and go throu each round correctly.

so i'll make dn 8 for 3/23/08 i'll be on early this time around

Remember when you guys tried to play custom maps that weren't released but a month ago? Nobody had them. I wouldn't make that mistake again.

No offense guys but its Easter, no one showed up for St Pat, you really think ppl are gona be around for Easter? LOL!

I personally cant so if there are peeps around GLHF.

yea yesterday there was only 20 of us enuff for 5 teams but we waited to long and people started to leave and yea day it was set was not right date.