*OLD* Hl2dm:U 2v2 Cup: Q & A

Questions, Rules etc go here.

Admins:

Para
Zman
Cellar
Herb
ninojman

Questions, Rules etc go here.

Admins:

Para
Zman
Cellar
Herb
ninojman

wow that would be some tourney

contact for CellarDweller:

pm me here on the U (preferred choice)
pm me on irc at #hl2dm or #team_synergy
contact me on steam id CellarDweller

(i'll give out my email if necessary via pm's, but not here for the bots)

Paradox contact

IRC #hl2dm or #team_synergy most preferable

PM here as well.

Don't really like using steam chat because don't want to add a ton of peeps to my friends list and I tend to get interrupted at bad times but can be reached through the DMU steam group.

ninojman

Pm me here
or on IRC on #hl2dm
or steam

US only? where are the server?

What days/time frame are you aiming this to happen? As in will you guys aim to play this on Sundays or multiple days during the week?

Also am I allowed to use hacks?

Um thats a definite no on the hax....lol

We are still working out the details on it, but I think it is going to be closer to a CAL type format for matches.

Um thats a definite no on the hax....lol

We are still working out the details on it, but I think it is going to be closer to a CAL type format for matches.

shocker

let me guess, the maps will be:

LD
caverns
LV
zeta
amp

Um thats a definite no on the hax....lol

We are still working out the details on it, but I think it is going to be closer to a CAL type format for matches.

shocker

let me guess, the maps will be:

LD
caverns
LV
zeta
amp

that attitude will get you no where young man! go stand in the corner. and wipe that silly grin off your face.

let me guess, the maps will be:
LD
caverns
LV
zeta
amp

Caverns and milue have been mentioned so far

we need a 3rd and 4th

What days/time frame are you aiming this to happen? As in will you guys aim to play this on Sundays or multiple days during the week?

Once teams are signed up we will announce a starting date, and a deadline to report. So teams work with each other to play before then.

Actually I was trying to stay away from the other CAL maps.

I think rapidfire might be a good possibility, because a lot of people like that map.

I would like to see a map that isnt a current CAL map or derived from a current map (ie no lost village clones) up there.

Another map that came to mind was dm_feudal, but Im not sure.


Also Chemical, what I was referring to was mainly the rule set would be similar to CAL. We are trying to get this up and running ASAP. If we have to sit around and reinvent the thing from the beginning, we could be here another month or two with no competative tourny/league. It easiest and quickest to go with something we all already know.

Adding in new maps like Caverns and Mileau is definately good. As for the other maps in the rotation I'd strongly advise that you at least leave in one or two older maps, of course one of the maps I refer to is LD even though I like Lostvillage better...I can't reccomend Zeta because those who have been playing that map for years will just flat out beat a new team, even if the new team is more talented, zeta has a very steep learning curve IMO with tons upon tons of nuances one needs to learn to gain back RPG from a good team. Amp is chaotic but actually fairly balanced because the RPG is very hard to control.

Do killbox_kbh_2p...and yes i'm srs as can be .....f*cking killbox haters

I like Rapidfire....

I hope nobody forgot Lost Arena though...

Nothing else comes to mind atm...pfft

But ahh yess I lubbb Caverns and Milieu...

http://www.hl2dm-university.com/forum/p ... =17&t=3796

dm_rapidfire
dm_lostarena
dm_caverns_r1
dm_milieu

would be pretty fresh

ummm go sign-up

This will be fun like the draft and be able to play on different days and times so the people that can't make the sunday nights can also play.

We were really playing with the idea of doing a NA bracket and a EU bracket that ends in a world final. But we would need some EU admins, and I'd like to get the NA bracket going since NA doesn't have a league/ladder atm.

Yeah all 4 look to be great for league play...

Yeah I'm def. gonna sign up but I need to talk to a few friends to see whats up..

Can I sign up now and modify roster later once I get it all down?

Just read the sign-up thread...PRIZES?!?!?!?!

teehee can't wait.

Can I sign up now and modify roster later once I get it all down?

Yes, although the spots aren't going fast yet. You can sign-up and edit your post later before the cut-off (when we get close to the amount of teams that we want)

Just read the sign-up thread...PRIZES?!?!?!?!

Yes, we are talking about it and working on it as admins

dm_rapidfire
dm_lostarena
dm_caverns_r1
dm_milieu

would be pretty fresh

ummm go sign-up

This will be fun like the draft and be able to play on different days and times so the people that can't make the sunday nights can also play.

We were really playing with the idea of doing a NA bracket and a EU bracket that ends in a world final. But we would need some EU admins, and I'd like to get the NA bracket going since NA doesn't have a league/ladder atm.

Every single one of these maps are new, but are completely shotgun whore friendly, but I guess that's whats hip with being a modern, newer player, shotgun whoring that is even more effective then spam whoring... Lostarena is "newer" but is the most repetitive un-strategic maps I've come to play, the map was novel for all of 1 month in high skill player scrims. Please consider replacing LA.

2v2 lost arena? wtfffff

Lost arena can handle up to 2v2 IMO, just no higher.

Well think of replacing at least one of those maps, if Nutri and PB decide to play those are literally their favorite and best maps, map for map except they'd replace Mileau for Tigrik. They would just literally walk over the rest of us with that rotation...So yeah if you don't want to see a lopsided ewR win I'd suggest switching something up.

Well think of replacing at least one of those maps, if Nutri and PB decide to play those are literally their favorite and best maps, map for map except they'd replace Mileau for Tigrik. They would just literally walk over the rest of us with that rotation...So yeah if you don't want to see a lopsided ewR win I'd suggest switching something up.

cry about it

Well think of replacing at least one of those maps, if Nutri and PB decide to play those are literally their favorite and best maps, map for map except they'd replace Mileau for Tigrik. They would just literally walk over the rest of us with that rotation...So yeah if you don't want to see a lopsided ewR win I'd suggest switching something up.

cry about it

I learned how to cry from your clan who cried about SW dominated map choices daily, now it's the other way around with ewR favored map choices. Plus, alot of big talk from someone I beat the last time I played gg

pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase no lostarena. im casting my vote as an all powerful ADMIN or whatever to say PLZ NO LOSTARENA. its such a fail map for 2v2.

So what map instead of LA?

zeta seems to jump out at me for 2v2
Lockdown of course

we will have a vote for the order later. Valiums....sign-up

Created a group for this also...

gawd I'd much rather see lost arena over zeta any day.

Me hates rocket whoring maps

dm_pinnacles

^link

LA is fine for 2v2 in what way is it not suitable only thing missing is rpg from your version.

Lost Hope?...but it seems like everyone despises this map

I like it.

As for LA...I've played quite a few 2v2s on there and it worked out well...Just big enough for 2v2 max as said by WT.

Are any of the contest maps gonna be in rotation?...are they good enough for competitive play?...maybe in the next cup hopefully...just interested in seeing new maps in rotation..

I'm cool with LD tho if all else fails for LA..

LA beats LD & Zeta any day.

I think we should wait until the last three maps of the contest are released. With a winner decided of course.
I know dm_airfusion would be great for a 2v2 - and the others I have yet to see but are probably worth considering.

dm_rapidfire is a bit big for a 2v2, and you will barely have enough weapons unless its one of the revisions abnoksius made.
And the original had some problems with props and the speed tunnels - fixed in _r2.
But there are two problem areas in that map with FPS that still exist.
1. Standing on the smg nade's spawn and looking into the middle of the map made luke's comp overheat.
2. At the entrance near the tubes/speed tunnels - standing or rocket ammo and looking into middle of map causes a big drop as well.

Abnoksius has not had time for rapidfire with the contest going on, and currently airfusion is more demanding on FPS than even rapidfire, and he will be trying to fix that as best he can for the judges. So I am told.

Also, LA really doesn't have the weapons and shit for a 2v2, and gets crowded real easy - but rapidfire is on the other end of that spectrum.
And I wouldn't really consider milieu a ewR map - grain and pb rape at it sure, but didn't fearsome help valar out a lot with that map?
I mean it was put into the CAL (when it was still around) rotation real fast. It's more bipartisan than you think Val.

But LA should be replaced with a more non-ewR map.
Ya know, lots of props to clutter shit up - not a lot of places to move, so a person with a limited mag can still hit, spam clumped together so anyone can gather it without knowing HOW to move and use it a lot. Yeah. Maybe.

My biggest idea is that you wait, wait for some more possibly good maps to be released to the community.
And yes this is new guy, and yeah - I have seen airfusion but I was helping abnoksius make it, legally too.
Kinda like shoobie and pig-popper, but I told abnoksius to keep may name off all the work because, lets face it, my name is not too good to throw around in this place. Yeah, I know that's my fault.
He is a very nice man. Not like me in any way, shape, or form - please don't disqualify him, In case me helping him is against the rules.
I help make/tested the map but NEVER released it. Please trust me on this.

I think we should wait until the last three maps of the contest are released. With a winner decided of course.
I know dm_airfusion would be great for a 2v2 - and the others I have yet to see but are probably worth considering.

dm_rapidfire is a bit big for a 2v2, and you will barely have enough weapons unless its one of the revisions abnoksius made.
And the original had some problems with props and the speed tunnels - fixed in _r2.
But there are two problem areas in that map with FPS that still exist.
1. Standing on the smg nade's spawn and looking into the middle of the map made luke's comp overheat.
2. At the entrance near the tubes/speed tunnels - standing or rocket ammo and looking into middle of map causes a big drop as well.

Abnoksius has not had time for rapidfire with the contest going on, and currently airfusion is more demanding on FPS than even rapidfire, and he will be trying to fix that as best he can for the judges. So I am told.

Also, LA really doesn't have the weapons and shit for a 2v2, and gets crowded real easy - but rapidfire is on the other end of that spectrum.
And I wouldn't really consider milieu a ewR map - grain and pb rape at it sure, but didn't fearsome help valar out a lot with that map?
I mean it was put into the CAL (when it was still around) rotation real fast. It's more bipartisan than you think Val.

But LA should be replaced with a more non-ewR map.
Ya know, lots of props to clutter shit up - not a lot of places to move, so a person with a limited mag can still hit, spam clumped together so anyone can gather it without knowing HOW to move and use it a lot. Yeah. Maybe.

My biggest idea is that you wait, wait for some more possibly good maps to be released to the community.
And yes this is new guy, and yeah - I have seen airfusion but I was helping abnoksius make it, legally too.
Kinda like shoobie and pig-popper, but I told abnoksius to keep may name off all the work because, lets face it, my name is not too good to throw around in this place. Yeah, I know that's my fault.
He is a very nice man. Not like me in any way, shape, or form - please don't disqualify him, In case me helping him is against the rules.
I help make/tested the map but NEVER released it. Please trust me on this.

someone give this man a medal

Whoops, my bad Val, I didn't read too well.
I thought you said they would replace LA w/ tig - Not milieu with tig.
Please Ignore my previous milieu comment.
And I want to make clear that I think dm_milieu is a map that is good all-around for players new/old.

I'd vote waiting until the other maps from the map contest come out for release as well, unless those map releases are going to take weeks...I can wait a week, I'm sure others could too and by then I could add something to the prize pot. Long story short

Mileau- Good map
Caverns- Great map
Rapidfire- Enormous for 2v2, but a map that has serious potential for 3v3 and 4v4, could become a classic for 4v4
LA- Controversial map with tight spawn points, repetitive, requires no stragedy except to literally walk around with a shotgun and kill people as they spawn and take all the weapons ensuring even if you miss their spawn point they'll still be gimped.
LD- Still the most played map in scrims, even with caverns for that honor, people still WANT to play this map!
Zeta- Match is usually decided in the first 3 minutes if the team has the skill to consistently hold RPG
Lostvillage- Fun, fast cluster**** that produces the highest scoring rounds then any other map.
Amp- This map is more even then others but makes you more angry then possibly any other map

Theres my input, as Ninoj said we'll get a chance to vote so ya OH and I'll be signing up my team soon dont worry, just waiting on a certain someone to provide a contact and a final clan name

Rapidfire- Enormous for 2v2, but a map that has serious potential for 3v3 and 4v4, could become a classic for 4v4

mhm, yeah

We dont want to wait until the rest of the contest maps are out because people are yearning for some competative play now. I suspect it is going to be a month or two before the contest finalists are announced. We want to get this going now. If we want to do another one after, we can change some maps around.

That said, yea I would like to see LA changed to a map that isnt a current CAL map.

Ya sounds like a plan Para, if we have to wait a few weeks yet for new maps then let's just get this show on the road. I'll donate money for the next 2v2 cup when the new maps come out, like $100-200.

Ya sounds like a plan Para, if we have to wait a few weeks yet for new maps then let's just get this show on the road. I'll donate money for the next 2v2 cup when the new maps come out, like $100-200.

Damn right you will.

Emm how about Octagon? Peeps like that map.

ya this should be done before the maps come out.

please god not octagon...that would be worse than lostarena.

wow.. still with all the old maps

http://www.hl2dm-university.com/forum/p ... um.php?f=5

lot of new maps.. surely some of them can be used in a league?

dm_caverns_r1
dm_milieu_final

These two are pretty much a lock, yes?
And right now we are looking to find two more maps, correct?

If you go with a vote, admins, try to make as narrow as possible so that people know what they are voting for.
Quite frankly you need to make one "old-school" map a lock as well, to make this shit fair and more appealing to more players. Just one though, I do despise most of the old maps but this is the first hl2dm:U competitive event so - I would think its best not to step on any toes. Some people are gonna feel that way regardless, but its good to at least make an attempt.

I would suggest dm_lostvillage_v3 - same layout as the original, but no bad fps spots.
I am pretty sure we can accept that the lostvillage mapper is not coming back, and I don't know of the shit that went on between $W and Arm, but yall can move past that too - right?

I would suggest that if any vote is done - it is for the final map to be selected for this tourney.
Take a K.I.S.S method approach.

???
???
dm_caverns_r1
dm_milieu

need two maps


OH I know!!

Lets try dm_jaeger_rc1 i gave it high marks in the contest. Should do well for 2v2. Then go old school with lockdown_r5

???
???
dm_caverns_r1
dm_milieu

need two maps


OH I know!!

Lets try dm_jaeger_rc1 i gave it high marks in the contest. Should do well for 2v2. Then go old school with lockdown_r5

Ninoj wins GG everybody.

lockdown_r5
lockdown_r5
lockdown_r5
lockdown_r5

Yeah, I guess that works nino.
Though it wasn't a bad idea to do a vote, give people a reason to try out all the new maps then pick the one they want, however, your approach saves time.

lockdown_r5
lockdown_r5
lockdown_r5
lockdown_r5

...

Didn't you quti blast?






EDIT: okay, I went to correct my spelling, only to realize that this site is forcing me to misspell "q.u.i.t" who's idea was this?

Caverns
Milieu
Overwatch
BioHazard

Yeah, I guess that works nino.
Though it wasn't a bad idea to do a vote, give people a reason to try out all the new maps then pick the one they want, however, your approach saves time.

lockdown_r5
lockdown_r5
lockdown_r5
lockdown_r5

...

Didn't you quti blast?






EDIT: okay, I went to correct my spelling, only to realize that this site is forcing me to misspell "q.u.i.t" who's idea was this?

its been doing that for ever. did you just think everybody that posted something that included the word Q-U-I-T, spelled it wrong? lol

this is so fucking gay. we just had a contest, 21 maps submitted, atleast 10 of those are playable for 2v2 (and worthy of playing), not to mention all the great maps Valar puts out (yes i know milieu is his) and yet we make this tourny using the same god damn maps that we always use. and ppl wonder why everybody is fucking sick of this game. play all new maps. maps that have never been used in CAL or warzone b4. why the fuck not? this is supposed to be for fun right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkcoobYUu8g

BIG NO on OW.

Chem, I have not actually used this site in a long time so, ya.
Never really read anyone saying quti, or had a chance to post it myself.

All new maps is not a bad idea, some people will of course hate it but I'll play regardless.
If this thing has no prizes and is really just for fun, pb and grain probably won't play - so don't worry.
The next tourney, of which Valiums said he would put up some money, they will be present for.

I just got feeling they will.

Yeah, I guess that works nino.
Though it wasn't a bad idea to do a vote, give people a reason to try out all the new maps then pick the one they want, however, your approach saves time.

lockdown_r5
lockdown_r5
lockdown_r5
lockdown_r5

...

Didn't you q­­u­i­t­ blast?

fixed

we just had a contest, 21 maps submitted, atleast 10 of those are playable for 2v2 (and worthy of playing), not to mention all the great maps Valar puts out.

play all new maps.

Agreed entirely, anything related to the U should be to promote and reward people's efforts to make this game better. If 21 people invested their time to try and give this game more playable maps (and countless others before them), then I think we should definitely recognize that and give their maps a chance.

we will still have a vote,

forgot about bio...

which of the new maps would you use? I have one that i thought would play well in, the others i had high marks on are not released. If you shoot down a map or the maps post what you want.

with only 3 teams atm we still have time.

I can tell what maps could work and not work in a 2v2 out of what I've been playing in europe.

Bio Works well.
Caverns Works Well.
Zeta maybe okay but, turns into a camp fest.
Ld is okay. I'm not sure about r5 though, havn't really played it.
Lv is quite alright too. Depending on the teams if creative and trying to get a effective win so to say, if it turns out to be braindead rpg camping no thanks.

LA and octagon are big nonos, it's not a matter of teamwork nor thinking. It's ammatter of mag aim. If you wanna turn the cup into magwhore cup go ahead.

I'm not gonna support my statements, but numerous and numerous games played on these maps in 2v2s with tells me this. I don't even like many of the maps but they work for competetive game play in a 2v2.

2v2 on LA is just a fucking shotgun whoreing map

HL2DM is just a fucking shotgun whoreing game

Correct.

I'm with Chem, all new maps should be used.
So sick of playing all the old maps a million times, not even that interested in playing them anymore.

I'm with Chem, all new maps should be used.
So sick of playing all the old maps a million times, not even that interested in playing them anymore.

-_- Why don't you guys sign up, you'll have the chance to vote as well as play. If your not even playing to me your opinion just isn't holding as much weight...like backseat drivers.

A watchful back seat driver can see a train wreck coming a mile off .....

Yea I agree with the all new maps thing. I play all the old maps every time I pug/scrim. I'd rather play something new & refreshing, even though that means I won't know every little nook & cranny of the map like usual.

new is good, but please post what new map you want...

I've got no idea what new maps are out there that are good, mainly because I never ever look at the dept. of architecture. So, I'll just play what I'm given.

Well think of replacing at least one of those maps, if Nutri and PB decide to play those are literally their favorite and best maps, map for map except they'd replace Mileau for Tigrik. They would just literally walk over the rest of us with that rotation...So yeah if you don't want to see a lopsided ewR win I'd suggest switching something up.

"they would just literally walk over the rest of us"

sounds pretty accurate to me.

also.

lostarena
milieu_final
warlock_final
caverns

All gnu (new) maps!!

Well think of replacing at least one of those maps, if Nutri and PB decide to play those are literally their favorite and best maps, map for map except they'd replace Mileau for Tigrik. They would just literally walk over the rest of us with that rotation...So yeah if you don't want to see a lopsided ewR win I'd suggest switching something up.

"they would just literally walk over the rest of us"

sounds pretty accurate to me.

also.

lostarena
milieu_final
warlock_final
caverns

OMFG It is He who has graced our presence once more in HL2DM. The man, the myth, whom was refused at the gates of heaven for fear that he would smote God in an epic 1v1. All bow before the master of the Universe, you need grapes or my tongue to polish your shoes sir?

Well think of replacing at least one of those maps, if Nutri and PB decide to play those are literally their favorite and best maps, map for map except they'd replace Mileau for Tigrik. They would just literally walk over the rest of us with that rotation...So yeah if you don't want to see a lopsided ewR win I'd suggest switching something up.

"they would just literally walk over the rest of us"

sounds pretty accurate to me.

also.

lostarena
milieu_final
warlock_final
caverns

OMFG It is He who has graced our presence once more in HL2DM. The man, the myth, whom was refused at the gates of heaven for fear that he would smote God in an epic 1v1. All bow before the master of the Universe, you need grapes or my tongue to polish your shoes sir?

you chirping my lord?

OMFG It is He who has graced our presence once more in HL2DM. The man, the myth, whom was refused at the gates of heaven for fear that he would smite* God in an epic 1v1. All bow before the master of the Universe, you need grapes or my tongue to polish your shoes sir?

all better now

EDIT:

you chirping my lord?

by all means, chirp the bitch valiums. GO!

Is there a recruitment thread or some shit. You can add me Impala or glezzery or whatever.

Is there a recruitment thread or some shit. I'd be interested in playing. I just don't have anyone who is interested in playing *With me* and/or that i like.

You can add me Impala or glezzery or whatever.

who would have guessed

Is there a recruitment thread or some shit. I'd be interested in playing. I just don't have anyone who is interested in playing *With me* and/or that i like.

You can add me Impala or glezzery or whatever.

who would have guessed

Heh

Aight

-_- Why don't you guys sign up, you'll have the chance to vote as well as play. If your not even playing to me your opinion just isn't holding as much weight...like backseat drivers.

valid point. but i think the reason we are all hasitant to sign up is because we know what's gonna happen anyway. our votes wont pass because the majority of players that have signed up or will sign up will only play if they have a chance of winning and because of that they will only play on maps they know. LD-caverns-LV etc. so nino, by no fault of his own, will have to set it up with those maps because he knows the teams that already signed up will drop out b4 it starts or after playing one round on a map they dont know. even if he does run the "CAL" maps it will never finish because it will be delayed due to the same bullshit that goes on in CAL and it will just turn into a name calling, finger pointing thread/post war on here. the teams that arent involved in that war will drop out because they are sick of dealing with it, so one or more teams will get a bye which in turn will cause more controversy because one team will have to play a match while another gets a free advancement. even if it does some how get to the final match it will prolly be an $w team playing a team affiliated with ewr........and we all know where that goes.......nah, i think ill just sit back with my popcorn and wait for the drama. glhf tho.

-_- Why don't you guys sign up, you'll have the chance to vote as well as play. If your not even playing to me your opinion just isn't holding as much weight...like backseat drivers.

valid point. but i think the reason we are all hasitant to sign up is because we know what's gonna happen anyway. our votes wont pass because the majority of players that have signed up or will sign up will only play if they have a chance of winning and because of that they will only play on maps they know. LD-caverns-LV etc. so nino, by no fault of his own, will have to set it up with those maps because he knows the teams that already signed up will drop out b4 it starts or after playing one round on a map they dont know. even if he does run the "CAL" maps it will never finish because it will be delayed due to the same bullshit that goes on in CAL and it will just turn into a name calling, finger pointing thread/post war on here. the teams that arent involved in that war will drop out because they are sick of dealing with it, so one or more teams will get a bye which in turn will cause more controversy because one team will have to play a match while another gets a free advancement. even if it does some how get to the final match it will prolly be an $w team playing a team affiliated with ewr........and we all know where that goes.......nah, i think ill just sit back with my popcorn and wait for the drama. glhf tho.

Sheesh Chem... First of all nominate maps in the 2v2 Cup map nomination section that ninoj made. Second, we have ninoj as an admin, he's far more open to listening to complaints and restructuring league formats then any other head admins I know of. Third most of the 2v2 teams playing are mature enough to make this go smooth (most). Fourth, me and Blas, as well as people in 911 have been beating ewR and $W pretty reguarly, so far all the teams posted there so far are basically a four horse race to win, make it into a six horse race when 911 and synergy sign up their Alpha 2v2 teams. If this was 4v4 yeah, it'd be $W vs ewR but it's not a 4v4 cup.

we will play new maps chem,
caverns is still pretty new imo. But as with the draft the goal here is to have some fun games and close ones. Since not everyone can play on sunday night i figured this would be a better format.


Maybe bracket play isn't a good idea. as Only good teams have signed up. We could do pool play. So everyone gets to play at least 3 matches and should have some close matches in the pool play.

-_- Why don't you guys sign up, you'll have the chance to vote as well as play. If your not even playing to me your opinion just isn't holding as much weight...like backseat drivers.

valid point. but i think the reason we are all hasitant to sign up is because we know what's gonna happen anyway. our votes wont pass because the majority of players that have signed up or will sign up will only play if they have a chance of winning and because of that they will only play on maps they know. LD-caverns-LV etc. so nino, by no fault of his own, will have to set it up with those maps because he knows the teams that already signed up will drop out b4 it starts or after playing one round on a map they dont know. even if he does run the "CAL" maps it will never finish because it will be delayed due to the same bullshit that goes on in CAL and it will just turn into a name calling, finger pointing thread/post war on here. the teams that arent involved in that war will drop out because they are sick of dealing with it, so one or more teams will get a bye which in turn will cause more controversy because one team will have to play a match while another gets a free advancement. even if it does some how get to the final match it will prolly be an $w team playing a team affiliated with ewr........and we all know where that goes.......nah, i think ill just sit back with my popcorn and wait for the drama. glhf tho.

Fourth, me and Blas, as well as people in 911 have been beating ewR and $W pretty reguarly.

hey now don't bring me into this.

Edit: even if all new maps are played chances are the top tier players are going to dominate either way.

we will play new maps chem,
caverns is still pretty new imo. But as with the draft the goal here is to have some fun games and close ones. Since not everyone can play on sunday night i figured this would be a better format.


Maybe bracket play isn't a good idea. as Only good teams have signed up. We could do pool play. So everyone gets to play at least 3 matches and should have some close matches in the pool play.

i think pool play is a good idea. similar to the olympics. round robin in pool and then cross over playoffs

blas. lol, its impossible to read your posts with that avatar man.!!!

well as people in 911 have been beating ewR and $W pretty reguarly, so far all the teams posted there so far are basically a four horse race to win, make it into a six horse race when 911 and synergy sign up their Alpha 2v2 teams. If this was 4v4 yeah, it'd be $W vs ewR but it's not a 4v4 cup.

i lol'd so hard when i heard this

well as people in 911 have been beating ewR and $W pretty reguarly, so far all the teams posted there so far are basically a four horse race to win, make it into a six horse race when 911 and synergy sign up their Alpha 2v2 teams. If this was 4v4 yeah, it'd be $W vs ewR but it's not a 4v4 cup.

i lol'd so hard when i heard this

Why!?!?

well as people in 911 have been beating ewR and $W pretty reguarly, so far all the teams posted there so far are basically a four horse race to win, make it into a six horse race when 911 and synergy sign up their Alpha 2v2 teams. If this was 4v4 yeah, it'd be $W vs ewR but it's not a 4v4 cup.

i lol'd so hard when i heard this

EDIT:: I see how it is phantom...I know hertz/voz/vaporizer would have the chance to make it far into the 2v2 cup. Just IMO tho, guess we'll have to see. Oh and hope you get a good partner phantom cause you could do good too.

KKKKK....no LA...1v1 yesh...2v2 no....

I just want this to start...

caverns
milieu
lockdown_r5
lostvillage

sounds good to me...and they are tourney ready for pretty much everybody

hey now don't bring me into this.

Edit: even if all new maps are played chances are the top tier players are going to dominate either way.

Then let's put them up to that challenge to play completely new maps. To find completely new maps and make them play it to see if they can still win.

As long as this tourney is not for money all new maps is a fair, fun, idea.
Can someone like ...uh... put all the new maps that are up for consideration together on a separate thread or something?
I have only looked at dm_ftw_r3 and dm_jaeger_rc1, and like probably everyone else in this tourney I would like to at least see the maps I am gonna play (albeit briefly) before I play them competitively.

What I mean is all maps up for consideration be posted with a corresponding link to DL them.
Such as:
dm_jaeger_rc1
dm_yourmom_rc2
...and so on, and so forth

And don't refer me to a Department of Architecture thread, all those map links are spread out n' stuff.
All in one place please, easy to find, I have a hard enough time testing them all. People are busy.
In my case, I have exams to study for and these chicken breasts don't cook themselves.

Do it all in one post, get to work nino.
GO.

As long as this tourney is not for money all new maps is a fair, fun, idea.
Can someone like ...uh... put all the new maps that are up for consideration together on a separate thread or something? I have only looked at dm_ftw_r3 and dm_jaeger_rc1.

What I mean is all maps up for consideration be posted with a corresponding link to DL them.
All in one post, get to work nino.
And don't refer me to a Department of Architecture thread, all those map links are spread out n' stuff.
I have exams to study for and these chicken breasts don't cook themselves.

GO.

go.

Good idea, you go do it for me

I edited my post jackass. Read it.
And is this my event or yours?

EDIT: goddamn I love chicken Breast.

Good idea, you go do it for me

You making that baby gurl was a "good idea" too, and in 18 years I can go do her for ya.

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dm_yourmom_rc2

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH CLICK IT!

i prefer meatspin.

protip: if you do enough spins something pops up calling you gay on your screen.

OK so I actually sat down and tried ALL THESE NEW MAPS OMFG LETS PLAY PLAY PLAY THEMMMMMMM!!! Guess what, most of the maps can't hack it in a high skill play scenario, pig popper's two maps have the most potential to suit fast stragedic play and the rest were...unpracticle, too big, too narrow in alot of areas ect, and one had beachballs.... I was looking forward to playing Jaeger but it's literally two floors of an empty construction sight...one of the most bland maps I ever played. So yeah, this is not to encourage not having them tried out but I'm starting to see why all these new maps everyone is demanding we play didn't make it into the finals.

BTW that one new map orange_rc1 with proper guidance on how to modify the map would absolutely own.

OK so I actually sat down and tried ALL THESE NEW MAPS OMFG LETS PLAY PLAY PLAY THEMMMMMMM!!! Guess what, most of the maps can't hack it in a high skill play scenario, pig popper's two maps have the most potential to suit fast stragedic play and the rest were...unpracticle, too big, too narrow in alot of areas ect, and one had beachballs.... I was looking forward to playing Jaeger but it's literally two floors of an empty construction sight...one of the most bland maps I ever played. So yeah, this is not to encourage not having them tried out but I'm starting to see why all these new maps everyone is demanding we play didn't make it into the finals.

Sorry for not making maps up to your par Valiums. Will work on that for next time.

11 teams up, lets get 5 more quick!

admins please check out the admin forum.

The map nomination thread will close Tuesday night at midnight (est).

Then the vote will go up for the maps.

Depending on the format we choose we may need 5 maps go edit your post and add a 5th map. make sure it is at the bottom. If we use 4 map format then the 5th map will not count to the nomination.

DRAFT RULES FOR DISCUSSION

Rules are as follows:


Screenshots
The captain or designee of each team must take screenshots of 1) the initial console before each round played regardless of whether two servers are used or if the entire match is played on one server, to display the server’s sv_pure mode; and 2) the scoreboard and console status displaying the names and Steam IDs of all the participating players in the server.
All players must also take screenshots of the opposing players before each round starts and of each round’s final scoreboard. This can NOT be a screenshot of the scoreboard before the match has ended. In the event of a dispute, if the disputed party fails to provide screenshots, automatic forfeiture will result.

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Sportsmanship

Just dont be an asshat. No spraying.

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Disputes

Is this section necessary? Is this going to be a problem?

I loved how sportmanship deserved 1/300 of the attention gave to the "Screenshots" section.

Disputes section will officially be necessary if you leave the "sportmanship" section, wich is basically the only aspect that could really go wrong during this tourney, so vague and incomplete.

Yea, also put in the definition for asshat while you're at it. xD

True, the admins and I will need to focus and the rule set in the coming days. Still need some more teams I'd rather not see byes. I know there are more teams that would be willing to play.

i think if you got this thread stickied in EVERY forum, rather than just the draft night one, would help a lot. I've talked to a couple guys that didn't even know where to sign up at

this thread? or the sign-up thread?

Don't want anything other then sign-ups in the sign-up thread, this one may be of more use... I guess.

No, sticky the sign-up thread everywhere. Just put in the information about the cup that Q&A are in the HL2DM Draft Night Section of the Forums.

I find it more annoying when people shoot dead bodies than when they spray, but i wouldn't restrict them from the tournament as long as they mm2.

Conflict, it was a draft set of rules that is meant for discussion at this point. They need to be refined, but we havent had a chance to discuss it much yet as Nino indicated. And yes the sportsmanship part needs to be defined but I was not sure what direction we wanted it to go in yet.

16 teams up, If another team wants to join from now until the start please pm me.

I will get with the admins and work up some dates, finalize the rules and maps in the next week or so. Some teams need to fix their roster steam IDs etc as this will close soon.

I loved how sportmanship deserved 1/300 of the attention gave to the "Screenshots" section.

Disputes section will officially be necessary if you leave the "sportmanship" section, wich is basically the only aspect that could really go wrong during this tourney, so vague and incomplete.

there could be a 3 page section on it and it will still be a problem.

if you have any steam IDS that need to be added you need to get on that ASAP

Semi-looking for another team, since Kigha's team does not have 2 players. So whichever comes first gets in.