*NEW* Round of 2 Group B Results

Va|iums

2010-07-03 01:14:14

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Mr. Nervous

2010-07-06 04:42:49

Divinity

2010-07-12 07:13:29

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the_big_cheese

2010-07-12 08:40:40

aim arena...
rly?

Pernicious

2010-07-12 09:10:48

lol i had the same thought.

Va|iums

2010-07-12 09:14:50

Pernicious wrote:lol i had the same thought.
So did I when ewR picked it. Just when I thought team mexican fucked up terribly by picking overwatch against ewR, ewR goes and takes the cake for bad map pick. BTW this map is banned for the eFPS league for 2v2, they could pick it because I never explicitly banned it in the rules beforehand.

GG lucky Xs baddies.

phantom

2010-07-12 20:46:06

the_big_cheese wrote:aim arena...
rly?
just wait till you see the map me and blas are gonna pick

phantom

2010-07-13 03:19:11

bad league, terrible admins

the_big_cheese

2010-07-13 03:31:48

Just one terrible admin

Blasphemy

2010-07-13 03:32:10

RIP dm_sonic_mario_land

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the_big_cheese

2010-07-13 03:55:19

Va|iwuUums __: stfu calling me terrible
Va|iwuUums __: dont give me that shit
Va|iwuUums __: im being fair
Va|iwuUums __: want to see me not be fair?
Va|iwuUums __: and overturn the ffw to you?
The_B!g_Cheese: suck my weiner
Va|iwuUums __: ok
Va|iwuUums __: match just got overturned
Va|iwuUums __: go fuck yourself

Va|iums

2010-07-13 03:59:23

the_big_cheese wrote:Va|iwuUums __: stfu calling me terrible
Va|iwuUums __: dont give me that shit
Va|iwuUums __: im being fair
Va|iwuUums __: want to see me not be fair?
Va|iwuUums __: and overturn the ffw to you?
The_B!g_Cheese: suck my weiner
Va|iwuUums __: ok
Va|iwuUums __: match just got overturned
Va|iwuUums __: go fuck yourself
Match to 911 awarded by FFW in 911's favor. I was incorrectly pointed out the wrong thread. The rules can be found here http://www.hl2dm-university.com/forum/p ... =17&t=5143, fanom did not follow them.

phantom

2010-07-13 04:00:10

oh noes i didnt follow teh rules, apparently you guys didnt either

Blasphemy

2010-07-13 04:04:29

CoNfuSed wrote:Demos here: I think I forgot to press enter on second round :S so my demo didn't record. sry..
why didn't the pcek match get overturned then?

Va|iums

2010-07-13 04:05:13

phantom wrote:oh noes i didnt follow teh rules, apparently you guys didnt either
That's why I briefly considered overturning the FFW. I was overruled by Holy on a map. I should just throw this entire match out but I wont. As far as pceK, I will overturn their win too then. Fair is fair right?

Blasphemy

2010-07-13 04:10:12

Va|iums wrote:
phantom wrote:oh noes i didnt follow teh rules, apparently you guys didnt either
That's why I briefly considered overturning the FFW. I was overruled by Holy on a map. I should just throw this entire match out but I wont. As far as pceK, I will overturn their win too then. Fair is fair right?
shame about the pcek match getting overturned.

here are our demos btw

http://www.filefront.com/17046641/blaspov.rar/
http://www.filefront.com/17046545/vapor ... ncavs.dem/
http://www.filefront.com/17046567/lolgayleague.dem/

gg we win

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Va|iums

2010-07-13 04:25:15

Blasphemy wrote:
Va|iums wrote:
phantom wrote:oh noes i didnt follow teh rules, apparently you guys didnt either
That's why I briefly considered overturning the FFW. I was overruled by Holy on a map. I should just throw this entire match out but I wont. As far as pceK, I will overturn their win too then. Fair is fair right?
shame about the pcek match getting overturned.

here are our demos btw

http://www.filefront.com/17046641/blaspov.rar/
http://www.filefront.com/17046545/vapor ... ncavs.dem/
http://www.filefront.com/17046567/lolgayleague.dem/

gg we win
Match re-overturned to team mexican. I'm getting sick of the games and taking advantage of my loose rules on both sides. I thought you could handle loose rules but I guess people need to be your daddy all the way. Grow up.

the_big_cheese

2010-07-13 04:28:34

Va|iums wrote:
Blasphemy wrote:
Va|iums wrote: That's why I briefly considered overturning the FFW. I was overruled by Holy on a map. I should just throw this entire match out but I wont. As far as pceK, I will overturn their win too then. Fair is fair right?
shame about the pcek match getting overturned.

here are our demos btw

http://www.filefront.com/17046641/blaspov.rar/
http://www.filefront.com/17046545/vapor ... ncavs.dem/
http://www.filefront.com/17046567/lolgayleague.dem/

gg we win
Match re-overturned to team mexican. I'm getting sick of the games and taking advantage of my loose rules on both sides. I thought you could handle loose rules but I guess people need to be your daddy all the way. Grow up.
quoted so you don't delete your post again

ninojman

2010-07-13 05:16:36

Blasphemy wrote:
Va|iums wrote:
phantom wrote:oh noes i didnt follow teh rules, apparently you guys didnt either
That's why I briefly considered overturning the FFW. I was overruled by Holy on a map. I should just throw this entire match out but I wont. As far as pceK, I will overturn their win too then. Fair is fair right?
shame about the pcek match getting overturned.
Mr. Cevo-P forgot to run his demo! Amazing.

Zman42

2010-07-13 06:17:13

So wait, you decide to not overturn our match at first, and then due to a post by a player on a team not involved in our match you decide to overturn it at a later date? alright..

CoNfuSed

2010-07-13 06:22:53

nino pm me any time to scrim, you can pick any cevo p guys you want. I'll stick with my team and let's see what happens.

MondaySunshine

2010-07-13 06:51:56

Let me say a few words.

Blasphemy and Fantom lost to ewR on dm_organic_b5. Organic is a small map best suited to 1v1 play. In response to this perceived injustice, Blasphemy and Fantom attempted to force Cheese and Vaporizer tonight to play on dm_sonic_mario_land - a map with secret areas, random teleports, and a very loud Mario theme song blaring the background. I fully understood that this was a sort of protest against the fact that ewR was allowed to play on Organic.

However, the differences between dm_organic_b5 and dm_sonic_mario_land are stark. Organic is a small map. But it is a league map. It is played competitively. It does not have secret areas, teleporters, or background music that makes hearing footsteps impossible. In short, Team Mexican attempted to force 911 to play on an unplayable map. I told them their map choice was unacceptable and requested them to choose a new one. After Fantom called me a bum looker about ten times, they chose dm_avalon_b1.

This summer tournament was meant to be a test-run for eFPS Season 1 requiring each player to take POV demos. Some teams have followed this practice religiously. Some have not. Tonight, Vaporizer found out that Fantom did not record demos. He thereafter chose to dispute the match, probably because he was angry that Team Mexican attempted to make him play on Sonic Mario Land. The letter of the rules requires that Fantom and Blasphemy forfeit the match if they did not have demos. Fantom did have demos, however, and was simply attempting to create more drama by lying to Vaporizer.

Because he was angry that he thought he had to forfeit the match, Blasphemy demanded that pcek forfeit their match in which Confused said that he didn't record demo files. Confused says he forgot, and I believe him. But the rules require that his match for forfeited. At least, in this case, neither pcek nor Team Mexican stood a chance of advancing to the championship since they had already lost a match.

This tournament was designed to have looser rules to see how rigid eFPS rules would need to be. Three people tonight have convinced me that I cannot give teams the benefit of the doubt and expect them to play reasonably. Blasphemy and Fantom deliberately attempted to make 911 play on a map that everyone knew was unplayable because they were upset at ewR. Vaporizer attempted to force a forfeit win after he lost the match based upon the score. Fantom falsely claimed that he forgot to record a demo, and Blasphemy responded by forcing pcek to also forfeit their match. This type of behavior is mean-spirited. While it is in accord with the letter of the rules, it doesn't capture our intention when writing the rules that all teams would behave civilly and simply play to have fun competing.

This tournament is almost over. But eFPS Season One is coming soon. The lessons we've learned from this tournament will be taken to heart and these problems will not recur.

Let me finish by saying this. I understand that many people are upset about what happened tonight. But throughout all of this mess, both Valiums and I have attempted to be honest, compassionate, and understanding to everyone affected by this. We will edit the rules for eFPS Season One and these issues won't crop up again.

Edit: I'd like to emphasize that both teams were at fault tonight. This isn't one team's fault or the other. It's the general interaction that they had and the mean-spirited results were a product of both team's poor attitudes.

ninojman

2010-07-13 07:01:39

CoNfuSed wrote:nino pm me any time to scrim, you can pick any cevo p guys you want. I'll stick with my team and let's see what happens.
you miss the joke

Va|iums

2010-07-13 07:08:21

For the record;


|911|'s behavior tonight was also not acceptable. Vapor stated he would not play unless it was a "normal" map (as he said like caverns, lockdown, lv) before blas even made his map pick. Vapor then asked for Fan's demo's without even requesting a demo review. He did it sheerly out of spite and vengeance to get a FFW. I was pretty disgusted with both clan's behavior tonight, and obviously yes, its a good thing we have rigid rules setup for actual eFPS. It seems people are too childish to handle a less regulated community.

the_big_cheese

2010-07-13 07:20:23

yes, childish..

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Va|iums

2010-07-13 07:26:33

Cry more, your team disrespected me first. I had to listen to Vapor cry about how I was rigging the tourney when I singlehandidly caused team mexican to lose in the first place. I was trying to be fair and you rag on me for it. You still are a terrible player last time I checked.

MondaySunshine

2010-07-13 07:29:36

Let's just take this down a notch and watch a song about two rainbows.


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Pernicious

2010-07-13 07:56:02

I watched "fanoms" demo on cavs and i am curious as to wat rates are being forced by the server for this league shit. There was some pretty horrid hitreg the most obvious being wen vaporizer was getting his face raped by AR2 at close range and didnt seem to take shit all damage from it.
I experience this shit everytime i play hl2dm but i would think u would set up ur servers better for league play?

Just curious.

Da1

2010-07-13 08:13:54

Basically none of the last 3 comments are necessary, there was a bitch fit between 911 team mex and vals....in the end team mex won. kthx.

Edit: Not counting perns i was posting as the time he was

Va|iums

2010-07-13 08:15:10

Pernicious wrote:I watched "fanoms" demo on cavs and i am curious as to wat rates are being forced by the server for this league shit. There was some pretty horrid hitreg the most obvious being wen vaporizer was getting his face raped by AR2 at close range and didnt seem to take shit all damage from it.
I experience this shit everytime i play hl2dm but i would think u would set up ur servers better for league play?

Just curious.
The rates enforced are the ones you come in with. You are unable to switch between different rates once the match starts. It could be the server, or it could be the plugin causing hitreg lag.

@ da1, I agree, I pleaded to keep this all private and leave it that team mexican won.

Zman42

2010-07-13 08:17:32

I understand we violated the rules when confused forgot to record a rd 2 demo in our match, and understand that we rightly forfiet due to that.
Blas: Pretending not to have demos and then bringing us into this, only to show you DO have demos once you've made us ffl, is pretty unfriendly.. not sure where that came from :/

L2k

2010-07-13 09:13:35

boy I never saw any of this coming.......
At least CAL admins never talked shit to the players afaik, and obviously loose rules don't fly.
Hopefully the eFPS league can learn some things from this, things CAL learned already in the past.

Va|iums

2010-07-13 09:19:29

L2k wrote:boy I never saw any of this coming.......
At least CAL admins never talked shit to the players afaik, and obviously loose rules don't fly.
Hopefully the eFPS league can learn some things from this, things CAL learned already in the past.

Games too small now... Just because I'm an admin doesnt mean I'm going to wakeup and stop talking shit tomorrow, the only difference is I do it in your face instead of doing it behind your back. Its all over and done, we came to agreement on the outcome and I think most of this page will be deleted by tomorrow. I'm the first to admit im confrontational here, I think anyone knows this.

Pernicious

2010-07-13 09:30:01

Hmmm shouldnt a minimum and maximum be set by the server <.<

Va|iums

2010-07-13 09:36:47

Pernicious wrote:Hmmm shouldnt a minimum and maximum be set by the server <.<
The efps server config enforces the cmdrate to 67-67, cl updaterate 67-67. Not the client.

There's a more specific answer for you.

voz

2010-07-13 10:49:47

Wut dem bitchez kno bout diz

Blasphemy

2010-07-13 18:24:10

L2k wrote:boy I never saw any of this coming.......
At least CAL admins never talked shit to the players afaik, and obviously loose rules don't fly.
Hopefully the eFPS league can learn some things from this, things CAL learned already in the past.
I rather would have an admin who talks shit and is fair than someone who doesn't say anything and is clearly bias to their team.

@holy

Pretty much this is how it went down. I was testing out a bunch of maps, found one called dm_sonic_mario_land thought AWESOME NAME uploaded it to a server fanom, saw me playing it joined and we decided to make it our 2v2 map for the lulz.

can we do dm_peaches_castle for our next game?

on a serious note. you guys should upload dm_dgc_finca_v2 on the efps site it was one of the maps i was testing out and a really solid pub map.

phantom

2010-07-13 22:14:13