whats your key config?

ive read through the curriculum and can do most of the advanced movements now i feel like i am limited by my key config. i have mostly default [wasd] with surrounding keys set as weapons,
also i am having some problems with speed skating. do i hold strafe key on initial jump or only on the overbounces?

all default
Well, I use a few weapon binds- C for mag, F for xbow, X for rpg, and Z for pulserifle. I find that this config lets me instantly switch to any weapon I want....or need at least.

You hold strafe key on the initial strafe jump in combination with forward, then use both strafe keys to steer while bouncing, depending on which way you want to go. If you havent watched seagulls vid yet I recommend it (see training vids).

use strafing as much as possible, One thing to remeber is to let go of foward after you take off

Completely custom except WASD.

WASD=movement keys
Q=mag
z=nade
c=xbow
v=shotty
caps lock=sprint
shift=duck
2=ar2
3=smg
mwheelup=RPG
mwheeldown=jump
space=jump
f=gravgun
g=timeleft
1=pistol (I've found that crowbor is useless in scrims and 1v1s unless you are completely dominating someone and just want to humiliate them. And I don't need a second key for grav gun.)

custom for the most part

started with custom and just worked my keys to the point where each has it's own place. I moved them one by one while pubbing and increased my killing power and movement speed, each time i got use to the key.

wasd - movement
e - duck
r - use
q - slot 5
cap lock - slot 1
shift - sprint
f - crossbow
1 - pistol
m - Combine Model
n - Rebel Model

mouse
mouse3 - reload
mousewheelup - 357
mousewheeeldown - shotgun
mouse4 - slot 3
mouse5 - GGun

Mine is pretty much the HLDM University config with some added extras.



Also:

Numpad_Enter - Show scores
Ctrl - Voice chat
Y/U - Chat/Team chat
M - Combine model
N - Rebel model
I - Timeleft

Mouse:
Mouse 1 - Primary fire
Mouse 2 - Secondary fire
Mouse 3 - Use
Mouse wheelup - AR2
Mouse wheeeldown - SMG
Mouse 4 - Sprint
Mouse 5 - Prev Wep

That's whack man?

Why W as crowbar?!?!

and 1 looks so far away for the pistol.

And why m3 as use?!?!

Man..Bhop would be hard with that set..
I have all default, except for weapon binds around the WSAD movement keys.

Q=Magnum
X=Xbow
C=Shotty
Z=Pulse Rifle
4=RPG
3=Nade
2=SMG
v=Slam
F=Lastweapon
G=Gravity Gun
6=Other pistol
Mouse sensitivity is 4.0

Remember it's not config so I don't know why weapons have been assigned where they have been, all I know is I like it

maybe Walking Target will be able to answer your questions more in-depth.

badinfluence wrote:That's whack man?

Is thats a question? what does it mean?

Why W as crowbar?!?!

Why not?
it could probably be used for a more effective weapon, yeah! but it's good for rabbit punching (yo-yo-ing) while moving, don't forget I'm still learning so if you've got a better suggest let me know

and 1 looks so far away for the pistol.

Yeah it is quite far, but my pinky finger can get it no problem, also 2 is still defaulted to wep cat 2 so I can still get the pistol with that.

And why m3 as use?!?!

I find it works quite well in instances where you need to act quickly, like being ambushed while charging up your suit, seen as your fingers are still sitting on the movement keys and your thumb on the sprint, whilst you've got a radiator in the GGun.

epic wrote:Man..Bhop would be hard with that set.

Really? How come?

epic wrote:Man..Bhop would be hard with that set..

it's all what you get use to

and jelly is w crowbar or slot1 ?

i find slot1 slot3 and slot 5 to be easier then having these 3 buttons be 7 buttons , but thats me, because i only need to pull out the 357/xbow/shotgun on the fly , althou slot1 is still straight to the crowbar/stunstick and if i need a nade i must not have any other weapons so it goes striaight to it.

SMG/AR2 is easy enough to toggle threw and a quick double press lets me know how many smg_nades/CBs i have


althou jelly has moved his movement keys so he has more buttons to use on the keyboard. Just a thought, i switched it up like this so i could move some movement keys to a better place for me.

badinfluence wrote:That's whack man?

Why W as crowbar?!?!

and 1 looks so far away for the pistol.

And why m3 as use?!?!

Read the course. It was written by me, and I scoured several clan websites looking for config info before writing it. I tried to compile the most logical config I could based on all the info I had about advanced play and reducing reaction time.

http://www.hl2dm-university.com/hl2dm_102.htm

I am happy to change it if you can give me logical reasons for why those positions are bad. M3 for use is actually very smooth. For example, you can strafe jump towards a door and hit use to open it all without taking your fingers off any of your movement keys. You also have full access to all movement keys while charging. If you use default "E" for use, you cannot strafe right without moving your finger back first. The only reason I can think of for not putting it on M3 is that you might want to use your mouse wheel for some other purpose.

1 is not so far away when it's a direct bind with fastswitch on. How many pistol kills are you getting in a real match anyway?

The course recommends slot 1 with fast switch for melee, which Jelly likely has. Why not use W if it's free and your movement keys are ESDF? Melee is one of the weapons you absolutely need to be able to draw quickly if you are going to use it at all. The course assumes you have either a standard mouse, or a mouse with only the extra thumb button. If you have more you can put it on your mouse, just bear in mind that if you ever play in a competition where you are not allowed to bind those extra buttons, you might be screwed. This config is written with that in mind.

WT

W - Crowbar
1 - Piston
2 - Slot 2

Also by moving the movement keys you can feel where F is with your index finger so you'll never (well...I say never) get mixed up with what keys are where.

Ok, I do have logical reasons for why W should not be crowbar around that config.

Please tell me when you are going get close enough to use a crowbar against a good player. Considing pistol does 29 damage for headshot and you can use it farther away. That's 4 more dmg than crowbar and a lot more lenghth.

That use idea is actually very very good idea. I'm too use to E though.

1 is not so far away when it's a direct bind with fastswitch on. How many pistol kills are you getting in a real match anyway?

You'd be suprised when you hit someone almost directly with a nade and they are too far for SMG. Plus, I'm just not a big fan of SMG in general...a perference for me...I would also like to see how many melee kills you get!

I just don't see a point for melee in a scrim.

About Jelly Fox, I don't see why pistol is all the way at 1 when X is open. I think RPG is too far away too.

Melee is one of the weapons you absolutely need to be able to draw quickly if you are going to use it at all

I don't see why anyone would use melee if it isn't for fun.

All in my opinion.

Hehe, look for the double stunstick kill in my upcoming frag video from a CAL 2v2 match. Hmmm now who were we playing? Oh that's right...Axon!

Of course it's all personal preference and play style. The HL2DMU courses stress that these are recommendations and you should adjust to taste.

pish posh, you didn't get me!

you should play tmx they are crazy good with the stunstick

and boneless has stunsticked every good player in NA

once i moved my melee key to caps lock i'd get at least 1 melee kill per round

badinfluence wrote:pish posh, you didn't get me!

Pish posh?

It was the season amp match that you did not participate in. Ko was keeping em busy in the rpg area so I was able to drop in and say hi.

Ah good you didn't get me.

Prepare to go like "HOLE SHIET NO WAY!"


Movement: ARROWS!!!
Shotgun: Num4
Gravgun: Num1
Sprint: Num0
Reload: Num7
Use: Enter
Jump: R shift
Crouch: R CTRL
Lastweap: PgDown
Mag: Del
Xbow: End
Smg/Ar2: mouse3


i got big hands, works good for me :]

WASD: Movement
Shift: Aux
Ctrl: Crouch
Space: Jump
Alt: Zoom
2: Pistol
3: SMG
Q: Gravgun
E: Shotgun
R: RPG
F: AR2
G: Grenade
X: 357
C: Crossbow

Mouse1: Primary Fire
Mouse2: Secondary Fire
Mouse3: Primary Fire
Mouse4: Slot 1
Mouse5: Use
Mouse6: Slam
Mouse7: Reload
Mouse8: Timeleft
Mousewheel Up: Lastinv
Mousewheel Down: Lastinv

Btw, pistol damage is 8 body / 24 headshot (still beats smg though, with better damage, accuracy and range). And melee does have its place- it just happens to be useless on most open maps. The broken crowbar on linux servers doesnt help.

this is out of memory, if i miss something let me know.

wasd - Movement
q - smg
e - use
r - reload
1 - weapon slot 1
2 - ar2
3 - frag nade
4 - rpg
5 - slam
z - zoom
shift - sprint
control - crouch
spacebar - crossbow
v - shotgun
f - magnum
g - grav gun
jump - mousewheeldown
pistol 9mm - mouse4

.conflict wrote:Prepare to go like "HOLE SHIET NO WAY!"


Movement: ARROWS!!!
Shotgun: Num4
Gravgun: Num1
Sprint: Num0
Reload: Num7
Use: Enter
Jump: R shift
Crouch: R CTRL
Lastweap: PgDown
Mag: Del
Xbow: End
Smg/Ar2: mouse3


i got big hands, works good for me :]

HOLY SHIT. NO WAY!

kurtz had a crazy cfg

ctl was primary fire

all movement on the mouse everything else on the keyboard

WASD = movement
1 = crowbar
2 = pistol
3 = smg
4 = shotgun
5 = grenades
q = last weapon in inv.
c = rpg
v = crossbow
b =ar2
n = magnum
m = slam
g = gravity gun
shift = sprint
space = jump

mouse 1= primary fire
mouse 2 = secondary fire
mouse 3 = zoom
mouse 4 = crouch
mouse 5 = use
mouse 6 = team speak
mouse wheel down = timeleft

I think thats all =P

ninojman wrote:kurtz had a crazy cfg

ctl was primary fire

all movement on the mouse everything else on the keyboard

See if you could get his cfg, I would love to look at it.

i think his demo is still posted somewhere

Good old Hl2dm pro 1.51 bug will change your cfg to it then you can check it out lol

badinfluence wrote:Ah good you didn't get me.

Haha just reviewing the footage. You are in my video after all. Arrow up the ass crawling into the vent... XD

Yeah, r3 ftl.

That vent sucks ass, during our match, I tried to crawl out THREE times, and when I hit the wall, I got pulled back. Lame.

badinfluence wrote:Yeah, r3 ftl.

That vent sucks ass, during our match, I tried to crawl out THREE times, and when I hit the wall, I got pulled back. Lame.

Can't blame em for trying to fix it, but yeah, sucks that it does that. Still, I got a good laugh outta that frag, so its not all bad

ninojman wrote:kurtz had a crazy cfg

ctl was primary fire

all movement on the mouse everything else on the keyboard

I talked to rhideon and he said that he didn't have ctl as primary fire. =/

[GoTg] Mean Old Canuck wrote: What is the strath key? And what does it do? :

Strafing is basically just sidestepping to the left or the right. Default keyboard settings has A as left strafe and D as right strafe.
These keys are powerful when you combime them with sprint and jump, so learn them well

Np mate

This is my config, some old and experimental stuff in there, etc.
http://files.filefront.com/HL2DM+cfg+Pe ... einfo.html
Im gunna have to do some work on it though, old thing.

I remember some girl named BoardinGrl who's config was something like this.

Left Mouse: Move Forward
Right Mouse: Move Backward
Ctrl: Fire
Shift: Secondary Fire

It was really bizarre.

Mine:
Left Click: Fire RPGs
Right Click: Spam like a nub with orbs/smg nades
WSAD - Moving
Shift - Sprinting
Ctrl - Crouch
G - Gravity Gun
V - Zoom
Z - RPG
X - Magnum
C - Shotgun
B - SMG1
3 - AR2
1 - Melee
2 - Pistol Section (Fast switch on)
4 - SLAM
5 - Grenade (Fast switch on)
6 - Bugbait
F - Flashlight
T - Spray
R - Reload
E - Use
Q - Last weapon
J - Kill
F1 - Male_07
F2 - Female_04
F3 - Police
F4 - Super Combine
F5 - Screenshot
Mwheeldown - Jump

lol , Boardin'Grl . ex-cartel leader.


Meh , All my main keys are default cept

Mouse 4 - Zoom

Pretty much all default except:

C - Crossbow
V - Magnum
F - Ar2
6 - Flashlight

1 - Melee (I still play a lot of pubs)
2 - Mag
3 - Pulse Rifle
4 - ... I forgot what was here.
5 - Default (Explosives)
Q - Quick Switch
E - SMG (As a last resort, of course)
R - Shotty
F - X-bow
G - Something, it's been a while since I've played.

It's fairly standard (WASD), but it works for me. I'm surprised I've already forgotten what the other slots were.

wasd - move
q - shotgun
e - 357
f - gg
g - grenade
mouse4 - smg
mouse5 - ar2
1 - crowbar
2 - pistol
4 - crossbow
5 - rocket
r - use key
t - reload

W A S D - Movement
Shift - Sprint
Ctrl - Crouch
Space - Jump
Q - Crossbow
E - Shotgun
F - Magnum
C - Gravgun
2 - Pistol
Mouse4 - Use
Mouse5 - Ar2
WheelUp - Smg
WheelDown - Handgrenade
Mouse3 - RPG
R - Reload
T - Transparent Walls Hack
B - Aimbot League Mode

invx001 wrote:W A S D - Movement
Shift - Sprint
Ctrl - Crouch
Space - Jump
Q - Crossbow
E - Shotgun
F - Magnum
C - Gravgun
2 - Pistol
Mouse4 - Crowbar
Mouse5 - Ar2
WheelUp - Smg
WheelDown - Handgrenade
Mouse3 - RPG
R - Reload
T - Use

You forgot to list your hax button!

E S D F - movement
w - slot5 (handgrenade, RPG, slam)
r - reload
t - 357
g - xbow
b - shotty
v - ar2
c - rpg
x - flashlight
z - zoom
a - smg
shift - sprint
ctrl - slot1 (for stunstick/crowbar)
mouse back thumb - crouch
mouse front thumb - use
scroll click - (extra) attack
scroll up - grav gun
scroll down - pistol

Mine is:

ZQSD - Movement
SHIFT - Sprint
CTRL - Crouch
MOUSE1 - Primary fire
MOUSE2 - Secondary fire
MOUSE3 - GG
MOUSE4 - Jump
WHEELUP - Previous Weapon
WHEELDOWN - Next Weapon
MOUSE5 - Use
DELETE - Reload
END - Suitzoom
KP_INS - Shotgun

That's right, not a lot of weapon binds, I mainly use fast weaponswitch anyways...

rh!deon_ once told me I have a weird key config, I wouldn't know why he thought that though... xD

W A S D - Movement
Shift - Sprint
Ctrl - Crouch
Space - Jump
mwheelup - crossbow
wheeldown - smg
m3 - zoom
m4 - 357
q - crowbar
z - pistol
c - slam
f - gg
e - use
r - reload
1 - rpg
3 - shotgun
caps - handgrenade
tab - ar2

ESDF - movement
q-mag
c-ar2
z - zoom
shift - duck
mouse3- sprint
t -nades
g- grav gun
r - reload
w -use
v -xbow
numbers -default

thats all I can remember now.

Wasd - Movement
Shift - Sprint
Space - Jump
2 - Pistol
Mouse3 - Stunstick
F - Grav gun
T - Ar2
G - Grenades
X - 357
C - Shotgun
V - X-Bow
B - Smg.

WASD - movement
Shift - sprint
Space - jump
Ctrl - crouch
F - grav gun
G - flashlight
V - grenades
Z - magnum
J - suit zoom
C - AR2
Mouse3 - shotty
1 - melee slot
2 - pistol slot
3 - smg/ar2 slot
4 - shotty/xbow slot
5 - nades/rpg slot

4.5 sensitivity

the shotty and mag keys are brand new, just set em today and they've already saved my life twice.

I like your sig THE END.

I'm saving it. :)

Yeah BI, but you gotta change it to a square smiley.

rdfg - movement
x - crouch
mouse3 - jump

t - mag
y - shotgun
h - xbow
b - rpg
v - slam
s - nade
a - ar2
5 - crowbar
7 - 9mm
scrollup - GG
scrolldown - smg

6 - reload
u - use

when i get a mouse with more buttons i'll change my use key for sure.

wasd - movement
q - grav gun
shift - sprint
ctrl - crouch
space - jump
e - use
f - vent / teamspeak
c - voice comm
r - teamsay
t - say
o - flashlight

weapons - scroll (thats right bitches)

Be aware of some crazyness this is my config:

Movement: esdf
Jump: space
Sprint: shift
Duck: Back thumb button (mouse4)
Magnum: B
Shotgun: N
X-bow: G
AR2: A
Melee: Q
RPG: C
SMG: Front thumb button (mouse5)
Nade: Press scroll (mouse3)
Pistol: Mousewhdown
Gravity gun: Mousewhup
Use: R
Reload: T
Lats inv: W

Slam: Lol never use em but if I have to I press 5 the right amount of times.

Shoobie wrote: Magnum: B
Shotgun: N

Do you use your thumb for these?

Yes I do Thumb goes for: Space, C, B, N. I personaly think this is the best. I don't have to move the hand at all, its stays at the position I first put it. Exceptions when I'm typing. I could film it lol

My biggest handicap to playing this game properly is my key setup.......

arrows for movement.
Enter - Sprint
R Shift - jump
CTRL - duck
Delete - use
Keypad 0 - reload
keypad del - melee
keypad 1 - mag
keypad 4 - Nade, RPG, Slam
mousewhl up - shotty
down - xbow
mouse thumb - g'gun
mousewhl left - ar2
mousewhl right - smg.

I really must change to wasd, but am too long in the tooth to be bothered to relean the game.

Shoobie wrote:Be aware of some crazyness this is my config:

Movement: esdf
Jump: space
Sprint: shift
Duck: Back thumb button (mouse4)
Magnum: B
Shotgun: N
X-bow: G
AR2: A
Melee: Q
RPG: C
SMG: Front thumb button (mouse5)
Nade: Press scroll (mouse3)
Pistol: Mousewhdown
Gravity gun: Mousewhup
Use: R
Reload: T
Lats inv: W

Slam: Lol never use em but if I have to I press 5 the right amount of times.

w00t!! another esdf'er Jelly we're slowly but surely taking over.

That config is quite similar to mine Shoob. Movement keys are all the same, only diff being various weapon bind locations.

ESDF FTUMFW

I'm still using ESDF but I've changed my config slightly, once I've ironed out the problem keys I'll post it up.

[AgC] Flushthetoilet wrote:My biggest handicap to playing this game properly is my key setup.......

arrows for movement.

I really must change to wasd, but am too long in the tooth to be bothered to relean the game.

No problem with Arrows, I believe thats what .conflict uses and he's hamazing

Yeah.. Noodle also used arrows as did Boydy.

I'm still crap though

Jelly Fox wrote:ESDF FTUMFW

I:o

Whatever that means lol

A note about key setups.

I have changed mine multiple times. It really is not as hard as people make it out to be, I would do it after the end of a season or the beginning of a season rather then before playoffs but you can do it and it is worth it. I suggest not being afraid to move your config around for other reasons. For one it teaches you a skill, how to learn something, some of your decade old gamers who have never moved your config have also not learned to learn in a decade either. You do things 100% without thinking or trying because you have done it so long and in fact you may have never learned how to increase your skill at something quickly. Second I have seen players who are real good like conflict change their config around and become a monster like LukeGT421. The point was that for a long time they were hitting a glass ceiling based on their config. And getting things set up right raised the bar and unleashed them to achieve their full potential. It did take about a month for them to get back to where they were, but in an extra month they were well past that.

Anyone can be pretty good at the game with literally any setup. The problem is they will have weakness in certain situations because they either cannot do some key stroke, it takes them longer, or it inhibits them from doing something else while they are doing it.

Here is an example: When I am charging I must move my index finger off of right strafe and so I cannot strafe left and right to minimize the chance of a headshot from someone who heard me charging. So I work around this by moving my middle finger down to right strafe. Then when I am done or interrupted I need to replace my fingers to the right keys. If I am not in good practice I will mess this up and usually get killed. Perhaps end up on the wrong keys or just not move quick enough. This is probably not worth moving my keyboard config around for but for other people something much more important could be inhibited. Something they may need to do constantly.

The problem with the Arrow keys is that they have a whole bunch of dead space and large keys near them. This means that you are limited in the number of keys you can press quickly. Currently I run an ESDF config, previously I ran an RDFG config but due to crap keyboard problems I had to move closer to the alt keys. The main point is if you have more keys with in quick reaching distance of your finger you will be able to do more tasks with binds and do them quicker. Perhaps some time later I will write up a more in depth look at how to design a keyboard layout and why you would place things in some area.

This is my current config

Wow talk about comprehensive! Thanks for the great list Fearsome*, lots of commands in there I had forgetten, mostly misc. console binds and the like. This will make setting up me config once I'm back a breeze, won't have to go looking up commands. Might have to try switching to esdf movement, so many keys to work with, and shift and ctr are still in reach so I can still do the default sprint/crouch bhop. Default bhop FTW!

Great post Fearsome, thanks for sharing that with us.

Jelly Fox wrote: No problem with Arrows, I believe thats what .conflict uses

Actually I made the change to WASD after my last CAL season, I'm very impressed and glad by the results, it was hard the first week as I couldn't pull out a nade from my pocket while walking through a door at the same time.I had to concentrate on my fingers dealing with 2389407 keys, wich isnt the case of arrows since you have huge gaps all over the place.

Changing the config around is indeed a really good thing, Lets say you play with WASD, why the hell should I let the scoreboard clogging my TAB key. My scoreboard is`bound to K, damn far from anything useful, i rarely check the scoreboard when i'm in a rush with an orb flying all over the place I felt a huge difference in the way i play and the way i move since i changed my config, i can bunnyhop way faster and jump considerable distance. I'm not saying its bad, I was learning way faster and easier when i was using arrows since I couldnt rely on anything else but being creative and using the maximum of my knowledge. But now it's a different playstyle relying on speed (weapon and movement) and alot of more things but, the way the game is played really changes depending on what you can and cannot do, and that, in my case, was determined by the config.

I'm still looking for a comfy spot to place my gravgun, i was used for it to be on mouse`s thumb button and now i switched it to F, and now sprint (wich used to be on NUM_0 is now on mouse thumb button). In other words, yea like Fearsome* said ;p

sensitivity "1.49" //12.2cm logitech g5, cpl_mousefix.reg, enhanced pointers off winxp, 1360x768
//sensitivity "1.45" //12.2cm logitech g5, cpl_mousefix.reg, enhanced pointers off winxp, 1184x852
//sensitivity "2.0" //12.2cm logitech mx518, cpl_mousefix.reg, enhanced pointers off winxp 1184x852
//sensitivity "7.9" //12.2cm logitech mx510, cpl_mousefix.reg, enhanced pointers off winxp 760x480?

Might sound ignorant, but has the screen resolution any effect on mouse sensitivity? I think I recall being told that but never felt a big difference. =/
Not that I change my resolution every day though =P.

Changing the config around is indeed a really good thing, Lets say you play with WASD, why the hell should I let the scoreboard clogging my TAB key. My scoreboard is`bound to K, damn far from anything useful, i rarely check the scoreboard when i'm in a rush with an orb flying all over the place Razz I felt a huge difference in the way i play and the way i move since i changed my config, i can bunnyhop way faster and jump considerable distance. I'm not saying its bad, I was learning way faster and easier when i was using arrows since I couldnt rely on anything else but being creative and using the maximum of my knowledge. But now it's a different playstyle relying on speed (weapon and movement) and alot of more things but, the way the game is played really changes depending on what you can and cannot do, and that, in my case, was determined by the config.

Yeah a clan mate used arrow keys, and I made him move to WASD.
He couldn't do shit at the beggining and felt useless, but ended up thanking me for making him change everything.....his old config was so limited =/

I'm just WAY to lazy. I have ESDF movement and all my weapons keys were posted earlier. May have changed but yeah just ask if you wanna know.

BEWARE LONG BORING POST AHEAD
This is my new config. I'll explain after:

left click- primary fire
right click- crouch
mouse wheel- jump
mouse thumb- secondary fire
mouse thumb2- spray

rdfg- movement
space- sprint

y- reload
alt-toggle zoom
shift- use

t- nade
h- shotty
b- xbow
v- rpg
c- slam
x- mag
s- smg
e- ar2
a- pistol
z- ggun
caps lock- crowbar

Now for the rant:
I’m using an mx518 with my middle finger resting on the wheel and my thumb in the groove below the shoulder buttons. Switching from the two finger to three finger grip was a bitch, but now I got it down and I love it. I switched my secondary fire to the shoulder because crouch is really a lot more important and needs to be held down continuously, plus I wanted to keep my keyboard fingers open. I also had to bind my weapons for the first time because I wanted to move jump to the mouse and I decided on the scroll wheel. BTW, take it from me, scroll jumping kicks ass and is taking my bhop to a whole nother level.

My left hand's home position is as follows-
pinky-z-ggun (that's the weapon bind, not phys-swap)
ring-d-left
middle-r-up (screw you I still hold it down when I'm hopping)
pointer-g-right
thumb-space-sprint

My pinky does most of the reaching on the right side. Binds are turning out pretty good; the only ones that are slightly still awkward are slam(c) and crowbar(caps).

Pros:
way better jumping
better grav gun response, faster orbs
Cons:
I don't get to scroll through my weapons and see what I picked up

Ok I'm tired of writing.

A default config would be limiting because you only have 5 fingers. The important thing is that you need to select at least 1 of the 3 (sprint,duck,jump) to move over to your mouse so that you can press all 3 at the same time and use 3 fingers for movement. Beyond that you should be fine.

EDIT: This assumes that you do not have common keyboard problems where you cannot press certain combination's of keys which could mess up any config no matter how good.

Does anyone have any idea how I can improve my config? I'm fine with everything apart from the RPG being on capslock, I think Tabs even easier for me to press then caps.

Heres my current config (work in progress)



It's pretty easy to work out what is what:

Movement is blue
Weapons is red
Orange is spectate and also join combine or rebels (these also switch your model)
Yellow is comms and misc

Most of the other keys are binded to quick chats (hello, ty, n1, gg, etc etc) or to change my name.

Mouse is:

Scroll up: AR2
Scroll down: Jump (I use for bhop)
Right Click: alt fire
Left Click: primary fire
Middle Click: Reload
Thumb 1: Sprint
Thumb 2: Use

I don't see it bad... but noticed you didn't use much numbers... why not setting rpg on one of the numbers?
Apart from that...i don't see toggle zoom being too comfortable up there... but you also have the normal zoom xD so what gives..
Anyway I just looked at it fast... if you think it doesn't limit you at all then keep it

Thanks, not really sure why I don't use the numbers, I guess I find them difficult to press as I almost always have my little finger on shift/duck.

As for Zoom, I hardly ever zoom so I might swap RPG with one of them, I find 5 the easiest to press with my index finger which is why it's set to toggle_zoom.

Thinking about it, I might move:

Tab or 5 = RPG
Z = Scores

and get rid of zoom... or maybe even make toggle_zoom = capslock, which would stop me from SHOUTING all the time as well.

OR maybe put the RPG on my mouse and have USE as a key....................

q-mag
f-gg gun
z-pistol
c-crowbar
v-slam
1-rpg
2-shotty
tab-nades
caps-ar2
mwheelup-smg
mwheeldown-jump
mouse3-xbow
mouse4-duck
shift-sprint
g-gg gun script

Jelly Fox wrote:Does anyone have any idea how I can improve my config? I'm fine with everything apart from the RPG being on capslock, I think Tabs even easier for me to press then caps.

Heres my current config (work in progress)



It's pretty easy to work out what is what:

Movement is blue
Weapons is red
Orange is spectate and also join combine or rebels (these also switch your model)
Yellow is comms and misc

Most of the other keys are binded to quick chats (hello, ty, n1, gg, etc etc) or to change my name.

Mouse is:

Scroll up: AR2
Scroll down: Jump (I use for bhop)
Right Click: alt fire
Left Click: primary fire
Middle Click: Reload
Thumb 1: Sprint
Thumb 2: Use

Um,
How do you bind timeleft on a CAL config server w/out mani?

please help ya thanks.

I had:
so it displays it 3 times, so it doesn't get lost if people are chatting.

or you can add it to TAB so every time you check the score it also displays the time left, like so:
I've just done that and moved my RPG to y, works a treat

WASD movement

1 - 9mm pistol
2 - RPG
3 - SMG
4 - AR-2
5 - S.L.A.M.
Q - reload
E - Shotgun
R - Magnum
T - Flashlight
F - Use
C - Xbow
scroll down - grenade

shift - crouch
space - jump
MB5 (thumb) - sprint
MB4 (thumb) - Gravity Gun

Any other thoughts I've had...well. Trying to make myself scroll down for jump... may take sprint off my mouse for that. Also, you'll find your index finger more dexerous and faster than ring and middle finger so I put a majority of my primary weapons surrounding it. My middle finger tends to post "w" as a place keeper even when depressed so reaching under and behind with my ring or index finger forces my hand to contort and lose place... for that reason I don't bind any keys to my ring finger except reload "Q" and my pinky stays planted on crouch most all the time "shift" for bhopping/speedskating so tab is left to score and caps lock is disabled because I hit it too often. z and x aren't used for the reason that I have to tuck fingers under my middle to get it.

As an edit to this I've switched up my config as follows... First, I wanted to try moving my grav gun to my mouse 4 button to get that quicker on the draw while already having my keyboard hand moving to another weapon key, so with that I've moved "use" to the F key. Second, I changed my grenade to scroll down instead of mb3. It's just faster and basically the same. Also, I've had problems where in game I seem to be mashing MB3 and it doesn't even draw the nade... pain in the ass. I still have scroll up if I think the scroll down works for me... may move a primary weapon there also.

Also, I wanted to give a heads up to G5 mousers. You may have had trouble setting your mouse buttons to stay configured in game. To overcome this I've set mouse buttons 4, 5, 6, and 7 to keystroke asignments in setpoint, such as, 7,8,9, and 0. This works out well to program your scroll left and right keys to stuff. I used mine like this. MB4 zoom, MB5 sprint, left scroll USE, right scroll reload, MB3 middle grenade. Having the middle button for those 3 never conflicted for me in game. FYI I now have a Razor Lachesis and the 2 buttons on the right side of the mouse are useless to me and disabled...

Zman42 wrote:wads-movement
shift-sprint
ctrl-crouch
space-jump
1-pistol
2-slams
3-rpg
q-ar2
tab-grenades
caps lock-xbow
c-crowbar
f-ggun
g-flashlight
r-reload
mousewheelup-shotty
mousewheeldown-357
mouse4-suitzoom
z-smg1

anyone have any thoughts? ive had this config since i was a nub and im now wondering if maybe its holding me back a little...

shift-sprint
ctrl-crouch

get those separated from keyboard.
have either one or the other. the way you are using it now gives u delay between the jump and the crouch ... which even being minimal, isn't good. Delay is never good
Some use sprint on the mouse, others use crouch. I personally use crouch with my mouse 4 (or 5 lol)

mkay ill try that, thx!

mouse1 attack
mouse2 crouch
closest thumb button g gun
the other thumb button secondary attack "pick up with the ggun / smg nade u know"
WASD movement
jump space
sprint SHIFT

really recommend this movement setup feel akward for some people maybe in the start but i swear i can do everything lighting fast and not feeling akward at all

mag q
cross e
nade 5
shotty 4
smg 3
pistol 2
crowbar 1
ar2 B
rpg X "Bad one just dont feel like putting the energy on changing it"
slam N

why would you have a button binded for slams?

phantom wrote:why would you have a button binded for slams?

1v1 tigcrik?

phantom wrote:why would you have a button binded for slams?

You think thats odd... ive got a button bound for rocket!

Jelly Fox wrote:Mine is pretty much the HLDM University config with some added extras.



Also:

Numpad_Enter - Show scores
Ctrl - Voice chat
Y/U - Chat/Team chat
M - Combine model
N - Rebel model
I - Timeleft

Mouse:
Mouse 1 - Primary fire
Mouse 2 - Secondary fire
Mouse 3 - Use
Mouse wheelup - AR2
Mouse wheeeldown - SMG
Mouse 4 - Sprint
Mouse 5 - Prev Wep

I use ESDF too! wow, someone that has a different movement cofig!

"You think thats odd... ive got a button bound for rocket!"

Lawl, for quite a while i couldnt use rpg cause one of my mouse buttons screwed itself, surprising how long a time i went b4 noticing that button was used for rpg XD.

I dont use ESDF because only the elite use that.

I use default movementbut move reload and use right one key to free up space( T and G).
I then have:
Q-Crowbar
E-Shotty
R-crossbow
F-Magnum
C-RPG
1-Slam
2-Pistol
3-Smg
4-Rifle

Rear right side mouse is GGun- you need that shit quick
Front is previous weapon for switching

I like Grenade on scroll back and next weapon on scroll forward.
Put flashlight anywhere, who fucking cares.
Zoom? who fucking cares.
All that other stuff commo, who cares, put it wherever or just don't.

wasd

r=rpg
f=smg
q=9mm
caps=ar2
c=xbow
x=shotty
e=use
ms scroll push down=mag
ms scroll down=crowbar/stunstick
ms scroll up=jump
ms side button closest to me=gravgun
ms side button away from me=nade
ctrl=crouch

wsad movment

1=smg
2=mag
3=shotty
4=x-bow
q=ar2
z=rpg
c=crowbar/stunstick
f=nade
g=gravgun
shift=sprint
ctrl=crouch
space=jump
e=use
v=mic
r=reload
tab=scoreboard

<kyle> wrote:wsad movment

1=smg
2=mag
3=shotty
4=x-bow
q=ar2
z=rpg
c=crowbar/stunstick
f=nade
g=gravgun
shift=sprint
ctrl=crouch
space=jump
e=use
v=mic
r=reload
tab=scoreboard
j=SHOOT IT

Fixed.

well seems the topic I created has already been done so I might as well repost also with text since this is what this thread is about hang on it KEY config not complete config I think there a difrence there anyway here we go.

I saw poor billy's config topic and thought thats a good idea lets share our config so new players see what players use in their config and hopefully get them into the game to a flying start.

So I think I will start this off by sharing mine. I may not be a leet but my config has served me well in many wars and has actually not changed much since it was created when I was rookie with the help of choc.

http://www.filefront.com/14219711/SND%27s%20config.rar

//Movement//


bind "MWHEELUP" "+jump"
bind "SPACE" "+duck"
bind "a" "+moveleft"
bind "d" "+moveright"
bind "w" "+forward"
bind "s" "+back"
bind "ALT" "+walk"
bind "SHIFT" "+speed"

//In Game//


bind "MOUSE1" "+attack"
bind "MOUSE2" "+attack2"

bind "`" "toggleconsole"
bind "TAB" "+showscores"
bind "ENTER" "+use" (note enter is bind to my sensitivy up button on G5)
bind "ESCAPE" "cancelselect"
bind "r" "+reload"
bind "z" "+zoom"
bind "y" "messagemode"
bind "u" "messagemode2"
bind "MWHEELDOWN" "timeleft"
bind "1" "invnext"
bind "PAUSE" "pause"

bind "." "combine"
bind "," "rebel"
alias rebel "cl_playermodel models/humans/Group03/Female_01.mdl"
alias combine "cl_playermodel models/Police.mdl"

//other//

bind "F3" "askconnect_accept"
bind "F5" "jpeg"
bind "F6" "save quick"
bind "F9" "load quick"

//weapons//

bind "f" "phys_swap"
bind "g" "use weapon_crowbar;use weapon_stunstick"
bind "q" "use weapon_rpg"
bind "2" "use weapon_pistol"
bind "c" "use weapon_smg1"
bind "e" "use weapon_shotgun"
bind "n" "use weapon_ar2"
bind "x" "use weapon_crossbow" (binded to side button on mouse)
bind "MOUSE3" "use weapon_frag" (wheel pressed down)
bind "MOUSE4" "use weapon_357"

//training//
bind "l" "impulse 100"
bind "t" "npc_create npc_combine_s"

//mouse//
sensitivity "0.900000"

//graph//
net_graph "3"

//hud//
hud_fastswitch "1"
cl_ragdoll_collide "0"

//net settings//
rate "100000"
cl_cmdrate "100"
cl_updaterate "100"

cl_allowupload "1"
cl_downloadfilter "nosounds"
cl_allowdownload "1"
cl_timeout "65"
cl_lagcomp_errorcheck "1"
cl_lagcompensation "1"
cl_smooth "1"
cl_smoothtime "0.1"
cl_forcepreload "1"
cl_interpolate "1"
cl_interp "0.01"
cl_interp_ratio 1

fps_max 141

//stuff//
cl_defaultweapon "weapon_frag"
cl_autowepswitch "0"
hud_quickinfo "0"

//sound//
r_mmx "1"
r_sse "1"
r_sse2 "1"
r_3dnow "1"
dsp_slow_cpu "0"

voice_modenable "1"
volume "1"
voice_dsound "1"
snd_pitchquality "1"
snd_digital_surround "1"
snd_async_fullyasync "1"
dsp_enhance_stereo "1"

//screenie//
jpeg_quality 100

"cl_defaultweapon "weapon_frag""

That shits me XD
Ko knows wat i mean -.-

Ghost Dog_TSGK wrote:

<kyle> wrote:wsad movment

1=smg
2=mag
3=shotty
4=x-bow
q=ar2
z=rpg
c=crowbar/stunstick
f=nade
g=gravgun
shift=sprint
ctrl=crouch
space=jump
e=use
v=mic
r=reload
tab=scoreboard
j=SHOOT IT

Fixed.

I call this config computer blue.

WASD - Movement
Mouse1 - prim. Fire
Mouse2 - sec. Fire
Mouse 4 - GravGun

MWheelUp - SMG
MWheelDown - Shotgun
MWheelLeft - Magnum
MWheelRight - AR2

Q - Crowbar/StunStick
E - LastInv
R - RPG
F - Pistol
C - Grenades
X - SLAMs
Tab - Scores
Shift - AuxPower
Ctrl - Duck
Space - Jump
Alt - Use

The Reload, Xbow and Zoom are on a HatSwitch close to my Jump (15) and Use (16) button, see here:

This thread is old... but:

WASD - Movement keys
Shift - Sprint
CTRL - Crouch
t - Magnum
g - Gravity Gun
f - SMG gun
c - Pulse Rifle (ar2)
v - Crossbow
1 - Also crossbow
q - Last Weapon Used
e - Use
b - Pistol
6 - RPG
8 - Crowbar/Stunstick
7 - SLAMs

Mouse 1 - Primary Fire
Mouse 2 - Secondary Fire
Mouse 3 - Voice communication
Mouse Wheel Up - Grenade
Mouse Wheel Down - Shotgun

TAB - Show scores

ASDF - Movement keys (A - Stafe Left, S - Back, D - Forward, F - Stafe Right)
E - Jump
Space - Crouch
Mouse 3 - Sprint
Q - R0cketz
W - XBow
T - Pistol
C - AR2
V - Gravity Gun
B - Magnum
G - Shotgun
1 - Crowbar/Stunstick
2 - SMG
5 - SLAM

Alt - Use
R - Reload
Z - Toggle_Zoom
X - Flashlight
U - Impulse 201
Shift - Voice Communication

Mouse 1 - Primary Fire
Mouse 2 - Secondary Fire
Mouse 3 - Sprint
Mouse Wheel Up - Grenade

TAB - Show scores
F1 - Timeleft
F4 - favorite 1v1 model
F9 - Rebs
F10 - Combine
F12 - Spec

The only minor problems I have with this config is that every once in a while I'll flick MWheelUp on accident, which will select nades and also, that the movement I use (ASDF), does not work well for Quake where consecutive strafe-jumps require the player to hold forward, HL2DM does not and so I get away with it here.

IDK if I already replied to this but..

WASD Movement.

Space - Jump
Crtl - Crouch
1 - Nades
2 - Mag
3 - Shotgun
4 - Smg
5 - AR2
6 - Xbow
Mouse4 - 9MM
Mouse5 - RPG
Scrollwheel Button - Spray
? . , m n - All name binds.
9 and 0 - Spectate and Jointeam 3
Q - Crowbar
And I havent used it in a while but I'm pretty sure I have a rebel aliase set to backslash.

Everything else is default.

Out of curiosity, I'm I this one guy who tought score on TAB was a fucking waste of a good key? Tab is a weapon key for me, scoreboard is far away, usually check when i`m dead.

space: sprint
wheel up: jump
mouse 3 (push in wheel): use
1: crow
2: 9mm
3: xbow
4:shotty
r: frags
t: reload
q: last weapon
e: RPG
c: AR2
x: smg
b: mag
v: voice
< and >: scripts to spin quickly in either direction
L: snd_restart
f: ggun
g:flashlight
everything else is default.

Oh, and keys for change teams and for spec, but I forget which ones

provost wrote:Out of curiosity, I'm I this one guy who tought score on TAB was a fucking waste of a good key? Tab is a weapon key for me, scoreboard is far away, usually check when i`m dead.

am I the only one that uses rdfg for movement to have a ton of good keys all around me?

I don't see why you would need that many keys unless you have a 2-button mouse AND you script like shit

because your pinky is a finger you don't need for movement...so why not use it for everything?

I'm clearly better than you, so do as I say. thx.

There are a few people that use esdf for movement to give them extra keys on that side.

Wolfclaw or G13 pwn all this shiz.

Most people do not use rdfg because most keyboards do not allow simultaneous key presses with all the keys you need in that area. Putting things on esdf allows you to keep more keys on modifier keys (shift, ctrl, alt) which are less often limited. rdfg is more common in other games where you do not need to be constantly pressing 6 keys at a time.

Poor_Billy wrote:

Fearsome* wrote:Most people do not use rdfg because most keyboards do not allow simultaneous key presses with all the keys you need in that area. Putting things on esdf allows you to keep more keys on modifier keys (shift, ctrl, alt) which are less often limited. rdfg is more common in other games where you do not need to be constantly pressing 6 keys at a time.

get good before you reply to my post. thx.

naw Fearsome speaks the truth.
I use rfdg and it worked fine on my old Dell keyboard and even my laptop keyboard.
Then I just recently bought a decent gaming keyboard ABS M1 and I find out I can't press r,g, and space at the same time.
Long story short, my bhop is ruined until I remap my whole key config (which I use in every fps that I play now).
shits lame man. Means I'm gonna have to go back to using the number keys for some of my weapon binds. God I hated that.

what kind of a shitty keyboard won't let you push multiple buttons at a time?

Tranthor wrote:what kind of a shitty keyboard won't let you push multiple buttons at a time?

Every usb keyboard ever made.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollover_%28key%29

What kind of a shitty keyboard plugs into a usb port?

Very few kbs (a tiny handful of ps2 and no usb) have infinite rollover, and they tend to cost 3 figures. Ive seen only 1 gaming kb that has it (steelseries 7g iirc); most gaming kbs are glizty, overpriced / overhyped garbage. Youll get the same mileage out of a 5 dollar generic model and not have to care about maintenance or spilling shit on it etc.

Well I'm on a laptop...

What kind of shitty laptop has a PS/2 port?

I'm pretty sure my free dell keyboard, while not having infinite rollover, certainly allows me to push more buttons than I have even needed to push at once. So, at least 5 or 6 no problem

Dell actually makes pretty good free keyboards and kotao speaks the truth I have no problem spending money on things but the gaming keyboards have yet to sell me.

Now lets clarify. Not all keyboards are made the same so particular key combos may work for one person and not the other. Most people do not even realize they are the victim of this keyboard flaw since the extra keys they want to press are weapon keys and they usually just think it was user error. So you may want to test your keyboard out if you notice that you thought you pressed something but nothing happened. Some people just do not hit enough keys fast enough to notice and many do not even bunny hop.

The reason that companies do not fix this problem is that most people do not need to press lots of keys all at the same time even in most games. For some reason valve always makes their games with tons of unintended exploits or advanced techniques which lead to the need to hold down various keys at the same time. If you think about what you need to do in an average game of HL2DM without scripts you must dedicate a finger to 6 keys. So the chances you are going to be hitting some combo that won't work are higher then other games where it's mostly just movement and jump. There are some groups of people who notice this problem though if you search you will find that blind people actually suffer they have to hit combinations of sdf and jkl to write braille and cannot do it on certain keyboards.

One test that can get you a better keyboard is this. Pick the keys you plan to hit all the time and put fingers on them all. Then press them all down at once, repeat 4 times and press enter. Do that process 10 times. If your keyboard is capable you should have all the letters in each row forming perfect rectangle but the order of them will be somewhat random. Like this:

sdlkfjsfldjksfldkjsdfjkl
sdljkfljksdfdfslkjdfsljk
ldksfjlsdfkjlskdjflsdfkj
lsdkfjsdlfkjsdfljksdfklj
skldfjsdfljkdsfkljsdfljk
sldfjksdfljkdklsfjlsdfkj
lsdfjkkljsdfkljsdfkjlsdf
sdfjkldfskjlsdklfjsdfkjl
dsflkjsdflkjklsdjfkljdsf
skdjflsdfkljslfkdjlksjdf

If your results look like below you have issues with your keyboard. And they can look alot worse than this too.

sfdkljsdfjklsdfkljkljsdf
sdfklksldfslfkdjsdflk
sdfljksdfljksdfkjlsdfjkl
sdfljksldfkjsfkldjsdfkjl
sfldksfdljksfldjksdfjkl
sdfjlksfjklsdfjlsdfjkl
sdfjlklkjsdfkljsdfsdfklj
dslfkjjkdlsfsdfljkksdfl
sdfljklsfkdjskljfdsfkdlj
sdfjkjklsdflsdfkjsdflkj
sldjkfksldjsdfkljsdfkjl

It is hard to make sure your keyboard works since this issue is rarely talked about in reviews or keyboard specs outside of some gaming keyboards.

uawdkgwgukadwuagkdwadukg
ukgwadwkguadwdakguwadukg
ugkawdwdkaugukwdgawdaukg
kguwadukgwadukwgadwaukdg
kugwadukgwdawadukgwaukdg
kugwaddkuwgadukgwadwukag
kguwadwdkaguwaukgdwuagkd

There's 6.

Like I said; free dell keyboard

(it's too bad the dell PCs kinda blow...)

Pressing keys down at same time my keboard does nothing. But addign oen at a tiem does this.

qwerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 4
asdfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 4
zxcvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv 4

Well maybe you should have gotten a free dell keyboard

I can confirm what Fearsome is saying. I'm left handed and use the numeric keypad for all my binds. I must have tested 6 or 7 keyboards using a test similar to the one Fearsome describes, and none of them had n-key rollover on the numeric keypad. I finally found one online, and it was expensive. I did a search recently for n-key rollover, and there seem to be a lot more options now than 5 years ago.

http://rollover.geekhack.org/

Press all the keys in the combination you want to test simultaneously. If keys accepted = number of keys pressed, and they all display, kb passed. If keys accepted = zero, and the text box remains blank, kb failed. Make sure to press backspace between tests to reset the app.

8, what now?

...Free dell keyboard

Razer Lycosa
$80 U.S. Best Buy
Usb
5 simultaneous keys max
EPIC FAIL

blue backlights look cool tho

i use default controlls, and no special binds
using some random logitech keyboard, but the old R20($3) i had was far better
i never have any real probs holding down multiple keys ingame.

i use a standard HP keyboard... wouldnt change for a so-called gaming keyboard... rather spend my money for a good mouse
my current bindings:

WASD = Movement
SHIFT = Sprint
CRTL = Duck
Q = Crowbar
E = use
R = Reload
T = RPG
F = SMG
G = AR2
X = Zoom
C = Crossbow
MWheel up = Magnum
MWheel down = Shotgun
MButton 4 = Gravgun
Mbutton 3 = Nades