Poor_Billy's Config

Poor_Billy

2009-08-05 23:47:27

CellarDweller

2009-08-06 00:03:44

i don't understand the alias parts. is it a standalone command, or dependant on something else?

actually, i don' understand the sensitivity parts of the alias's either. first time ive seen something like that.

i may try your movement binds. i use esdf and my "f" key is in a semi-permanent mashed position (not stuck so that i constantly move right, but there is no "spring-back" to the key which makes it reallllllly sensitive to touch). if i make my "f" key backwards movement, it'll get less use at least. i suppose i'll have to get a new keyboard though... sooner or later.

The Argumentalizer

2009-08-06 01:39:14

As for scrolling, i tried it, didn't work out. Do you cscroll with your middle finger and shoot with index and ring fingers?
This is the only way i can imagine Grain or others can shoot AND move at the same time.
Maybe i'll try it again. I know the fastest players scroll jump.

Paradox

2009-08-06 02:29:14

It takes time to learn and train your fingers to do. Some people use their index finger to scroll, others use the middle finger. I use my index because I could never get the damn timing with the middle finger.

I think the key to it is also having jump bound to space as well.

I use space for the first jump in the bhop or for strafe then use wheel for the rest of the hops. I also use space to jump in a fire fight if I need to which leaves all the fingers on my mouse hand for controlling that and firing only. It did take me time to get it down and train everyone to do it at the right time/sequence, but for me using space only was nothing but fail, that side was trying to do too much at once.

Nutri-Grain

2009-08-06 03:29:03

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{EE}chEmicalbuRn

2009-08-06 03:31:26

i scroll when hopping but then switch to space bar when shooting.

CellarDweller

2009-08-06 05:24:18

CellarDweller wrote:i don't understand the alias parts. is it a standalone command, or dependant on something else?

actually, i don' understand the sensitivity parts of the alias's either. first time ive seen something like that.
ah, i think i've muddled through this part with the help of a friend.

Christian

2009-08-06 07:51:53

I use scroll wheel to jump, and only the scroll wheel. I don't have space bound to jump, its bound to my crossbow. Also, I use my index finger to scroll jump and to shoot. Holding the mouse so that my middle finger would scroll and my index would rest on MOUSE1 would really mess up my movement... I can jump and shoot nearly at the same time, and don't have a problems between jumping and shooting in firefights, so I guess its just a matter of getting used to it. I think its worth it since it frees up the space bar, which a really great key to bind to your favorite weapon, since you can press it without having to let go of movement keys or anything, so you can switch to it at any time.

As for the aliases, they sort of work like variables in programming, for those of you who know enough about that. For example, his first alias is:

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alias rebel "cl_playermodel models/humans/Group03/Male_03.mdl"
If you look further up the config, you will notice this bind linking to that alias:

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bind "," "rebel"
In effect, what this does is let him switch to that rebel model, and more importantly switch to rebels from combine in one key stroke, which is better than the alternative of ESC>OPTIONS>change model>CLICK OK.

The other aliases basically link together weapon switches and sensitivity. Most regular configs bind weapons like this:

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bind "s" "use weapon_shotgun"
Instead, what he did was:

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bind "s" "pbshotty"
And later aliases the word pbshotty to

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alias pbshotty "use weapon_shotgun;sensitivity 0.8"
Which just changes the weapon to shotgun, and changes the mouse sensitivity to 0.8.

In reality, all weapons except AR2, RPG and Gravity Gun get a sensitivity of 0.8, and the ones mentioned get 1.2

I hope that explains it well.

<kyle>

2009-08-06 10:22:24

i use spacebar to jump like a normal person. please flame me now everyone.

Pernicious

2009-08-06 11:42:18

nah spacebar is leet D:

Nutri-Grain

2009-08-06 21:13:41

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CellarDweller

2009-08-06 21:17:01

haha nutri! no, its not TNG. but it is the friend who explained it to me.

Uncle Rico

2009-08-06 21:50:28

Nutri-Grain wrote:This is a New Guy post for sure, and if not, someone is trying to compete with his "I must share my knowledge with everyone" skills.
You can tell it's not from TNG by the lack of penis references.

thatguy

2009-08-06 22:52:59

space bar ftw...learn how to use it people

Paradox

2009-08-06 23:01:51

TG, sometimes space bar plus all the other keys don't work for some people. I tried literally for months but the A-D key presses screwed with getting the space bar exactly right to maintain the hop. I switched to mouswheel for that part and I was finally able to improve because it gave otherwise idle fingrs something to do besides allowing the other hand to get their part of it right.

Seriously, in the end what does it matter what key/combinations someone uses as long as it works for them? Doesn't matter one damn bit.

Pernicious

2009-08-07 05:36:59

How do u rekon u would go if u could only jump once per half second or wateva, u would still have the option of using wheel, just u would have to time it more?

Paradox

2009-08-07 05:40:30

hmm I think it would be doable, but you arent going to be able to maintain speed like we can now....why?

The Argumentalizer

2009-08-07 05:57:37

One benefit of spacebar Jumping: Carpal Tunnel Syndrome.

Sometimes i think rigor is setting in after a session.

Pernicious

2009-08-07 06:44:03

Ive never had that problem, but then i dont use default controls so dont suffer the awkwardness most ppl do.
To be more specific i use mouse2 as jump, space as sprint and shift as crouch.
My mouse hand gets fed up b4 my keyboard hand.

The Argumentalizer

2009-08-07 06:52:15

I thought Spacebar was leet!?!

Pernicious

2009-08-07 10:22:51

Anything that doesnt involve spamming jump = leet ^_^

Poor_Billy

2009-08-07 21:15:03

I've never met anyone that could come even close to as fast as the scroll jumpers with a spacebar.

also, I use index finger to jump/shoot, not too sure why you'd use your middle finger. Unless it takes your index finger 3 seconds to move from the wheel to mouse1.

provost

2009-08-07 21:36:16

I would like to point out that this post:

Was started by poor_billy.

Is made of helpful content to the U.

Has reached page 2 without turning into shits and flame.

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Poor_Billy

2009-08-07 21:49:56

takes a pretty brave person to ruin one of my threads.

but, you jinxed it. so we're all pretty much fucked now.

Nutri-Grain

2009-08-07 23:04:07

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Uncle Rico

2009-08-07 23:14:32

I'm still convinced aliens have replaced PB with a somewhat kinder, somewhat helpful clone. It's like the asshole converter on the cloning machine just couldn't put out the same amount of assholishness so they gave up and went with what they could manage.

Nutri-Grain

2009-08-07 23:18:07

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Ghost Dog_TSGK

2009-08-08 01:29:28

Poor_Billy wrote:I've never met anyone that could come even close to as fast as the scroll jumpers with a spacebar.

also, I use index finger to jump/shoot, not too sure why you'd use your middle finger. Unless it takes your index finger 3 seconds to move from the wheel to mouse1.
He's right though, I have jump bound to mouse 2 and it is something I'm good at but try cruising avalon manually jumping or tig or zeta the wheeler is gliding over hills manual can't.

Blasphemy

2009-08-08 03:12:13

Poor_Billy wrote:I've never met anyone that could come even close to as fast as the scroll jumpers with a spacebar.
ahungrymidget

Ko-Tao

2009-08-08 06:02:42

I never had trouble maintaining 500ish with space (back when i played regularly, anyway), though it became harder as ping increased, and was pretty difficult to pull off on displacements due to the dynamic timing required.

Pistol and ar also benefit from scrolling- faster firing and smoother aim for pistol, and permanent minimum cone for ar.

And that said, i dont think the lack of a delay timer on these things (jump/shoot) was a good idea, as it gives the ability to effectively macro what would otherwise be skill intensive timing etc, but its way too late in the games life to change anything now.

Pernicious

2009-08-08 06:21:58

"I've never met anyone that could come even close to as fast as the scroll jumpers with a spacebar."

u havent met the right ppl.

"He's right though, I have jump bound to mouse 2 and it is something I'm good at but try cruising avalon manually jumping or tig or zeta the wheeler is gliding over hills manual can't."

Im quite good on terrain, infact i like terrain as u can gain more speed, my only problem is that sumtimes my extreme lag fucks wit meh. And this game is quite fucked latly or is it just me? I acually played after a while and man, physics induced lag is at an all time high?

Ghost Dog_TSGK

2009-08-08 07:18:47

Pernicious wrote:"I've never met anyone that could come even close to as fast as the scroll jumpers with a spacebar."

u havent met the right ppl.
ummm no.

Is every Aussie on the internet a "one upper"?

Pernicious

2009-08-08 07:30:41

Ahh no, its just not that hard.

Ive seen plenty of scrollers, and yes its easier on terrain, but scrolling only makes wat isnt that hard to begin with alot easier.

And i wasnt refering to myself or just myself btw.

Poor_Billy

2009-08-08 07:37:59

Ghost Dog_TSGK wrote: Is every Aussie on the internet a "one upper"?
I know right?

I stop playing for 2 weeks and I already have to come back to put someone in their place. jeez.

Pernicious

2009-08-08 08:33:50

lol, how bout this, without including myself in the mix, u specifically pb, im talkin. Of all the Foreign players i have watched, regardless of success, ur movement is far from the fastest, ur own team mate grain, is faster then u, maybe he should put me in my place? im more likely to listen.
I dont get u.

Bring out the tape measure im bored.

Ghost Dog_TSGK

2009-08-08 08:46:05

Pernicious wrote:lol, how bout this, without including myself in the mix, u specifically pb, im talkin. Of all the Foreign players i have watched, regardless of success, ur movement is far from the fastest, ur own team mate grain, is faster then u, maybe he should put me in my place? im more likely to listen.
I dont get u.

Bring out the tape measure im bored.
one uppin upp in hur

Nutri-Grain

2009-08-08 20:45:45

lol. it isn't all about speed you silly kids.

Uncle Rico

2009-08-08 21:27:45

The Argumentalizer

2009-08-08 21:56:54

I laughed. My ass fell off.

keefy

2009-08-08 23:06:09

I keep all aliases in autoexec then my user.cfg is free of crap. Personal preferance of course.

Ko-Tao wrote:I never had trouble maintaining 500ish with space (back when i played regularly, anyway), though it became harder as ping increased, and was pretty difficult to pull off on displacements due to the dynamic timing required.

Pistol and ar also benefit from scrolling- faster firing and smoother aim for pistol, and permanent minimum cone for ar.

And that said, i dont think the lack of a delay timer on these things (jump/shoot) was a good idea, as it gives the ability to effectively macro what would otherwise be skill intensive timing etc, but its way too late in the games life to change anything now.
There is a delay timer in shooting pistol and jumping, the game engine does not respond if you press or +jump too fast and if yopu press + attck too fast it just fires at th minimum rate like holding the button down. those with a Logitech G9 mouse will know what I mean as the wheel can free wheel for along tiem and very very fast.

Ghost Dog_TSGK

2009-08-09 07:01:42

Uncle Rico wrote:http://www.fuzzwich.com/?_fz_aid=1030460

Holy shit you should get paid for that.

Pernicious

2009-08-09 08:11:55

"lol. it isn't all about speed you silly kids."

And yet some ppl seem to have it all.

Pern held out the tape measure for PB and measured 3 inches, was kind enough to round up.
I insulted the man and didnt even get a response from him? In wat universe does that hapen.
gg.

Nutri-Grain

2009-08-09 10:04:39

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Pernicious

2009-08-09 10:14:09

"euros take "high horse" to a whole 'nother level."

Completly irrelevant, i care not for the game enough to even have a horse, merely wanted to lure out the real PB and perhaps put him in HIS place, that statement after all, in regards to movement was the most high horse'ish statement of all.

Put me in my place?
What kind of shit is that, seriously.

lead

2009-08-09 10:59:29

Nutri-Grain wrote:
Pernicious wrote:"lol. it isn't all about speed you silly kids."

And yet some ppl seem to have it all.

Pern held out the tape measure for PB and measured 3 inches, was kind enough to round up.
I insulted the man and didnt even get a response from him? In wat universe does that hapen.
gg.
euros take "high horse" to a whole 'nother level.
:( :cry: this thread started out good

Ghost Dog_TSGK

2009-08-09 13:29:00

Pernicious wrote:"lol. it isn't all about speed you silly kids."

And yet some ppl seem to have it all.
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Pernicious

2009-08-09 14:27:10

Well that turned out to be pretty boring.

badinfluence

2009-08-09 19:50:56

Nutri-Grain wrote:hahahaha, either that or he just doesn't give a shit about not giving a shit anymore.

As for me, I'm too lazy to be an asshole anymore :thumbsup:
Uncle Rico wrote:I'm still convinced aliens have replaced PB with a somewhat kinder, somewhat helpful clone. It's like the asshole converter on the cloning machine just couldn't put out the same amount of assholishness so they gave up and went with what they could manage.

Ahh... I knew you guys would give up sooner or later. I'll take back my asshole spot back now. Thank you. ; D

Nutri-Grain

2009-08-09 21:39:52

lol, love the pic dawg.

Uncle Rico

2009-08-09 21:44:06

Pernicious wrote:Well that turned out to be pretty boring.
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Ghost Dog_TSGK

2009-08-10 00:11:01

Will read again.

Paradox

2009-08-10 00:54:56

this pic made me lol
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The Argumentalizer

2009-08-10 04:19:17

That's fuuny. Did those fellas come straight from CSS?
Look just like CS Counter-terrorists.

Pernicious

2009-08-10 06:10:40

If he had said something technical and atleast argued his point instead of saying "put someone in their place." like a retard...

ie i was going to argue how spamming jump on terrain isnt necasary as u still only need to press jump once u just have to be beter at timing it, and there are other things like sliding up terain, strafing into terain without pressing jump, bouncing b4 or on certain terrain uncrouched and crouching later in the jump. Yada yada, could have actually talked about hl2dm, but no, PB and his retarded fan club. I know more then u realise.

Nutri-Grain

2009-08-10 06:14:35

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Ghost Dog_TSGK

2009-08-10 06:22:51

Pernicious wrote:If he had said something technical and atleast argued his point instead of saying "put someone in their place." like a retard...

ie i was going to argue how spamming jump on terrain isnt necasary as u still only need to press jump once u just have to be beter at timing it, and there are other things like sliding up terain, strafing into terain without pressing jump, bouncing b4 or on certain terrain uncrouched and crouching later in the jump. Yada yada, could have actually talked about hl2dm, but no, PB and his retarded fan club. I know more then u realise.

And while you're working way too hard on timing your terrain jumps a good player is going to wheel on down and rape you.

Uncle Rico

2009-08-10 06:45:03

Nutri-Grain wrote: .ewR tactic list:

- make fun of each other because we aren't in ts
- get in ts
- ban TNG from ts
- make fun of each other
- win the match (while making fun of each other)
- ban TNG again
- make fun of the other team for losing
- ban TNG again
- make fun of each other for not playing as good as Grain/Billy
^Fixed

Va|iums

2009-08-10 07:52:58

Uncle Rico wrote:
Nutri-Grain wrote: .ewR tactic list:

- make fun of each other because we aren't in ts
- get in ts
- ban TNG from ts
- make fun of each other
- win the match (while making fun of each other)
- ban TNG again
- make fun of the other team for losing
- ban TNG again
- make fun of each other for not playing as good as Grain/Billy
^Fixed
back when I used to be in vent more I never really thought about it actually. now when I look back at my times in the ewr vent I finally remember how TNG would try to come in and start a conversation and then someone points out that TNG is in our vent and needs to get banned and gets banned. then 30 minutes later into the second round TNG comes in and says something about penises and IS THAT VAWIUMS IN VWENT?! and immediately gets banned again, after awhile I stopped notcing how many times TNG got banned from vent, kind of like breathing air eventually.

Uncle Rico

2009-08-10 08:41:03

Va|iums wrote:
Uncle Rico wrote:
Nutri-Grain wrote: .ewR tactic list:

- make fun of each other because we aren't in ts
- get in ts
- ban TNG from ts
- make fun of each other
- win the match (while making fun of each other)
- ban TNG again
- make fun of the other team for losing
- ban TNG again
- make fun of each other for not playing as good as Grain/Billy
^Fixed
back when I used to be in vent more I never really thought about it actually. now when I look back at my times in the ewr vent I finally remember how TNG would try to come in and start a conversation and then someone points out that TNG is in our vent and needs to get banned and gets banned. then 30 minutes later into the second round TNG comes in and says something about penises and IS THAT VAWIUMS IN VWENT?! and immediately gets banned again, after awhile I stopped notcing how many times TNG got banned from vent, kind of like breathing air eventually.
It's pretty much a ritual. Just get someone to give you admin so you can join in next time.

Pernicious

2009-08-10 09:07:19

"And while you're working way too hard on timing your terrain jumps a good player is going to wheel on down and rape you."

U assume too much, bunnyhoping becomes second nature after a while u should know this yea?
But atleast we are talking about hl2dm on a hl2dm forum now.

Pernicious

2009-08-10 09:09:10

"Do people actually make, study, and practice tactics when it comes to bunny hopping on different terrain? Seriously?"

Doesnt really matter wat ppl do and dont do, PB made a comment about it and couldnt follow through with a logical argument.

Nutri-Grain

2009-08-10 09:31:49

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Ghost Dog_TSGK

2009-08-10 09:52:35

Pernicious wrote:U assume too much, bunnyhoping becomes second nature after a while u should know this yea?
I dunno I only play for the best team in the game.
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Pernicious

2009-08-10 11:34:09

"I dunno I only play for the best team in the game."

And?
Were u going to say something or just brag about being part of something small in a small dead game?

And this pretty much is over, pb acted like a punk bitch, then left the building, then some lame fanboy ie ghost dog came out with some crap that didnt have anything to do with ...anything then some peeple posted pics because they had nothing else to say and pretty much no one but me and pb's faboys can even be bothered to post in this thread.

Takes 2 minutes to post and less to read though so meh

Blasphemy

2009-08-10 12:00:49

anyone wanna see my config?

:popcorn:

Nutri-Grain

2009-08-10 20:27:17

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The Argumentalizer

2009-08-10 23:20:48

Hey, i just found out Australia is not in Europe~!

Amazing.

Paradox

2009-08-11 00:36:18

The Argumentalizer wrote:Hey, i just found out Australia is not in Europe~!

Amazing.
Inoright?

Blasphemy

2009-08-11 03:26:52

Paradox wrote:
The Argumentalizer wrote:Hey, i just found out Australia is not in Europe~!

Amazing.
inorite?

Ghost Dog_TSGK

2009-08-11 04:09:23

Nutri-Grain wrote:1 of Ghost Dog's posts > All your posts on this forum put together.
This man speaks the truth.

Deathwish

2009-08-11 05:49:10

shut up pern, i used to only use spacebar to bhop for ages i used to be able to maintain 500 pretty easily, but because your trying to fine time it so much you would often only get 6 hops out of it then stop. Pern the game has changed a lot i think your still stuck a few years back, you would not stand a chance against me with my scrolling skills moving at 540+ all the time, sorry to say. Then pern after you finish finally being an ultimate non scroller you also need to learn the other elements to this game that make you good, but since all you care about is perfecting your non scrolling bhops you suck at it.

Pernicious

2009-08-11 06:19:36

omg, the most hated player in aus makes a post, in this thread, with all the videos of u whinging i wouldnt think that u would have any credibility at all. And for all your flaws i still kept peice.

"shut up pern, i used to only use spacebar to bhop for ages i used to be able to maintain 500 pretty easily"

As was discussed in another thread, u were never seen going at those speeds in dm games, just because u can did it once or twice on a lan server by yourself doesnt mean that ur consistantly going that fast all the time, even though all of this is irrelevant ill keep going cause u ppl seem to want it.

" but because your trying to fine time it so much you would often only get 6 hops out of it then stop."

Generally u dont need to, especially if u prefer free for all.

"Pern the game has changed a lot i think your still stuck a few years back,"

The day of the worrior is over! And there are less players, though a few still remain who for some odd reason want to become the leetest cunts around, why i dont know personally, the game was never competition worthy, and that statement coming from me 3-4 years ago in numurous conversations with different ppl.

" you would not stand a chance against me with my scrolling skills moving at 540+ all the time"

I speced u recently a few times and still havent seen any evidence of that, good on u if u can but still irrelevant.
This was all about PB being a turd, not who is the leetest cunt on the forums, funny how i was accused of trying to do a one upper, then every other cunt, including the accuser, does exactly that.

"Then pern after you finish finally being an ultimate non scroller you also need to learn the other elements to this game that make you good, but since all you care about is perfecting your non scrolling bhops you suck at it."

I am aware of it all, but i only take from this game the aspects that i like, as for me sucking, i do allright even with the lag, and frankly wouldnt care if i did suck, though i cannot play on those high tick servers, and i dont spam (way of the worrior) and never will, never have had any intention of playing this game competitivly.

Infact, if ur so goal orientated, why dont u go play a game where the level of competition is higher.

As for ghost dog being worth more, he might be worth more if ur asking about effective comp strats? Even though it takes more to execute then it does to advise, but in wat universe does his accumulative knowledge of the game = more then mine. Every one, on my steam freinds list, including deathwish, weather i was playing or not at the time or not(mostly not) has asked for my assistence on more then one occasion, in regards to all sorts of things, console stuff...actual game play stuff, everything, everyone on that shit. Maybe ill get a possy up in here though im not sure that i am that desperate for other ppl to fight my battles for me.


Slightly amusing, but stupid.

Tranthor

2009-08-11 06:21:23

WHY does this kid think dm is dead? It's got far more players then any sourcemod; in fact, the only (steam-based) games with more people playing them are css, tf2, and l4d. That I know of.

Then again, I know hardly anything.

but seriously, there are games (for example, PVKii) where there are only 5 servers and 50 players, and yet they don't believe their game is dead. How many servers in this?

Jesus kid, get some sense of perspective. You don't have to flame out OB and N-G just for trying to be helpful. But then again, I'll bet you know everything and we aught to all just bow down before your mighty holiness.

Pernicious

2009-08-11 06:24:03

" but since all you care about is perfecting your non scrolling bhops you suck at it."

I really dont put any real efort into it, i been doing it for years.

And just to give u an idea of how much i care, i generally dont even play with sound, if someone is stalking me i wont even know about it till i get hit/see a bolt fly past etc.

Pernicious

2009-08-11 06:28:15

"Jesus kid, get some sense of perspective. You don't have to flame out OB and N-G just for trying to be helpful. But then again, I'll bet you know everything and we aught to all just bow down before your mighty holiness."

Trying to be helpfull, LOL?
Thats not the rep i hear about.

As for bowing down, its funny, i like an argument, and am fine with ppl trying to prove me wrong and being successfull, just ask anyone i talk to, but thats not wat hapened now is it.
Im the only one up in here who has argued and not just tried to end it with a claim of holiness ie ghost, PB.

Deathwish

2009-08-11 06:49:04

You have never specced me, especially not recently because when i play a game its always in a locked server and i always check whos speccing me when they join the server im playing the match in, so stop talking bullshit. I dont give a crap if everyone hates me in aus, as i'm still undefeatable here in aus, all the other aussies can suck my dick, the internet is serious business lawl, so i dont give a crap if someone posts old sound clips of me whinging when I had had a bad day like that was done ages ago, i don't give a shit lol. It's funny how all the competitive aussie players all bunch around, then there's the ones that wished they were good or try to be as good as the other aussie competitive players and try their absolute hardest to bring down the much better players then themselves, what's that called, jealousy?

Tranthor

2009-08-11 06:52:36

who needs to play competitively anyway? I just run/jump around and throw shit. Still manage to win in pubs. Even though I'm awful at this game

thatguy

2009-08-11 06:53:42

Deathwish wrote:you would not stand a chance against me with my scrolling skills moving at 540+ all the time, sorry to say.
demos? cuz i have never heard of anyone moving that fast and maintaining it on normal settings

Tranthor

2009-08-11 06:55:26

I agree, last I clocked myself was around 400...

Paradox

2009-08-11 07:00:25

Pernicious wrote: the game was never competition worthy
If it wasnt competition worthy, Fios would not have put up $100,000 for a 1v1 tournament, they would have picked another game.

Pernicious

2009-08-11 07:25:56

"You have never specced me, especially not recently because when i play a game its always in a locked server and i always check whos speccing me when they join the server im playing the match in, so stop talking bullshit."

Its called source tv. And i recall everytime i have asked for demos of u moving at such speeds (500) u have some bullshit excuse, not like i care but u seemed pretty insistant that u could. Feel free to prove me wrong, cause i know u are a good player, but like i said, irrelevant.

Tranthor

2009-08-11 07:29:22

Will you please:
a) Use the quote button
b) Capitalize the word "I"
c) Spell "you" correctly
d) Not be so jealous of 2 or 3 people who are clearly more loved then you. No offence, though.

Cheers,
Tranthor, the Space Hippo

Pernicious

2009-08-11 07:39:01

"as i'm still undefeatable here in aus"

I saw pincus defeat u once *winks*

"so i dont give a crap if someone posts old sound clips of me whinging when I had had a bad day like that was done ages ago"

Nor do i, though frankly, it was alot more then one day now wasnt it deathwish.

"It's funny how all the competitive aussie players all bunch around, then there's the ones that wished they were good or try to be as good as the other aussie competitive players and try their absolute hardest to bring down the much better players then themselves, what's that called, jealousy?"

I wouldnt know, im not in the scene, i recall trying to calm u down in the past, as i thought u were an allright kid wen not being a dick, but u turned around on me didnt u, and for no reason at all.

"what's that called, jealousy?"

Umm, as i recall, ppl were hating u and laughing at u long b4 u actually started to win any matches(and i wasnt one of them, i actually remembered trying to defend u in some way and u call me jealous? u were talking about ME?), ur starting to remind me of an aussie player from way back called manson. Maybe u should lay off on the dexies, though those dexies are some good shit yea? i liked them myself but after a bit of experimentation stoped using so as not to cause any damage :P

I was hoping u wouldnt turn out like shunnyboy but u end up becoming something much worse now didnt u.

Pernicious

2009-08-11 07:43:16

Will you please:
a) Use the quote button
b) Capitalize the word "I"
c) Spell "you" correctly
d) Not be so jealous of 2 or 3 people who are clearly more loved then you. No offence, though.


a) No, i cant be bothered, im in and out of this forum as quickly as possible, bind bang boom.
b) No, for same reason above.
c) No
d) Jealousy isnt an issue, and i was after PB specifically...actually, as for being more loved then me, this is primarily an american/euro thing now isnt it, very few of the ppl i have played with, talked to, wateva..with in the past and present, from australia ..have even viewed this forum, mute, and thank u tranthor for not being a total ass atleast.

Pernicious

2009-08-11 07:49:23

"If it wasnt competition worthy, Fios would not have put up $100,000 for a 1v1 tournament, they would have picked another game."

U could say the same about games like css XD
But we are all going to have different opinions on that arent we, ur intitled to compete ur heart out.

As for the game being dead, im not the only one who thinks that and got the inpression from US players that is was the same over there.
IE. ppl say it directly or say things like all the servers over there have whack settings that are boring for the competitive player yada yada, some ppl dont like the dicks hanging around ie PB(OH both loved and hated?-who cares). etc

Nutri-Grain

2009-08-11 08:04:53

Deathwish wrote:moving at 540+ all the time
i lol'd

Ko-Tao

2009-08-11 08:22:26

Paradox wrote:If it wasnt competition worthy, Fios would not have put up $100,000 for a 1v1 tournament, they would have picked another game.
They chose the game because they thought it looked fun. Rough quote from one of the main fios people prior to the tourney: "...we chose hl2dm because we really liked the magnet gun". The eventual winner made it clear in one of his post-win interviews that he didnt think hl2dm was a particularly competitive game either, though the load of trash stock maps they used, all of which were in fully unclipped / unfixed forms and none of which played all that well 1v1, surely had much to do with that.

Not to say the game isnt competitive, but compared to top end, well refined games such as cpma, 1.6, ssf2t, sc and the like, its got a loooong way to go (and at this point its pretty obvious its never going to get there, short of a serious competitive mod being coded to completion).

The Argumentalizer

2009-08-11 10:06:57

Oh SHIT! An Intercontinental Flame war! And the Euros aren't even involved. A FIRST.
Poor Billy's config is interesting. It makes me wonder where some of that stuff comes from.
I have always thought there was esoteric stuff clans kept secret that made for better play.
Now, i doubt that.
So, what i gather is Scroll jumping is generally faster and more reliable.
Folks like Ahungrymidget are very good with spacebar, as is Voz and others.
GhostDog is the shit.
Rico is hilarious.
Pernicious takes the game seriously.
Grain does not, unless he loses to Voz or something (then he wants to quti).
Deathwish is the most hated player Down Under.
New Guy gets teh Ban a lot (surprise!)
Paradox has a lot of common sense.
KoTao is STILL the Buddha of DM.

A winning thread all around. A+

Deathwish

2009-08-11 10:30:41

The Argumentalizer wrote:Oh SHIT! An Intercontinental Flame war! And the Euros aren't even involved. A FIRST.
Poor Billy's config is interesting. It makes me wonder where some of that stuff comes from.
I have always thought there was esoteric stuff clans kept secret that made for better play.
Now, i doubt that.
So, what i gather is Scroll jumping is generally faster and more reliable.
Folks like Ahungrymidget are very good with spacebar, as is Voz and others.
GhostDog is the shit.
Rico is hilarious.
Pernicious takes the game seriously.
Grain does not, unless he loses to Voz or something (then he wants to quti).
Deathwish is the most hated player Down Under.
New Guy gets teh Ban a lot (surprise!)
Paradox has a lot of common sense.
KoTao is STILL the Buddha of DM.

A winning thread all around. A+
lolol

Deathwish

2009-08-11 10:32:45

Pernicious wrote:"as i'm still undefeatable here in aus"

I saw pincus defeat u once *winks*
that was over 8 months ago lawl
Pernicious wrote:"so i dont give a crap if someone posts old sound clips of me whinging when I had had a bad day like that was done ages ago"

Nor do i, though frankly, it was alot more then one day now wasnt it deathwish.
no one sound was from one day the rest were from another day
Pernicious wrote:"It's funny how all the competitive aussie players all bunch around, then there's the ones that wished they were good or try to be as good as the other aussie competitive players and try their absolute hardest to bring down the much better players then themselves, what's that called, jealousy?"

I wouldnt know, im not in the scene, i recall trying to calm u down in the past, as i thought u were an allright kid wen not being a dick, but u turned around on me didnt u, and for no reason at all.
shit happens i suppose =/
Pernicious wrote:"what's that called, jealousy?"

Umm, as i recall, ppl were hating u and laughing at u long b4 u actually started to win any matches(and i wasnt one of them, i actually remembered trying to defend u in some way and u call me jealous? u were talking about ME?), ur starting to remind me of an aussie player from way back called manson. Maybe u should lay off on the dexies, though those dexies are some good shit yea? i liked them myself but after a bit of experimentation stoped using so as not to cause any damage :P
way of those dexies for months now, so glad i stopped using them lol
Pernicious wrote:I was hoping u wouldnt turn out like shunnyboy but u end up becoming something much worse now didnt u.
some people hate me while others hate shunny, im generally nice to anyone unless they start saying stuff like spams are for noobs or i use wallhacks *hint hint* certain people. Which is why most of the aussies hate me aka the non competitive bunch, as they're all like omfg deathwish you wallhax and are big spammer you spam to win.

Pernicious

2009-08-11 10:33:05

Nice summary, but i disagree with this part "Pernicious takes the game seriously." XD

I stated that i dont and if u had played me u would know that was obvious. But one thing i do take seriously, is trying to correct someone wen i think something is wrong.

Scrolling IS more reliable, however, saying that it is faster is very inacurate. blah blah etc

Kingpin

2009-08-11 18:33:42

Deathwish wrote:some people hate me while others hate shunny, im generally nice to anyone unless they start saying stuff like spams are for noobs or i use wallhacks *hint hint* certain people. Which is why most of the aussies hate me aka the non competitive bunch, as they're all like omfg deathwish you wallhax and are big spammer you spam to win.
Well, you either hate shunny or you hate deathwish, but in the end everyone who hates shunny hates deathwish a bit more.

thatguy

2009-08-11 18:39:19

Nutri-Grain wrote:
Deathwish wrote:moving at 540+ all the time
i lol'd

Ghost Dog_TSGK

2009-08-11 23:10:56

Yeah pern I'm a damn good caller because I know what people will do in game, as for executing it yeah I haven't been playing much this year so I got some rust to shake off, a week or two of scrims would change that though I'd be right back where I left off don't doubt that.

I disagree about this being a US/Euro/Aus battle.

Paradox

2009-08-12 00:21:09

Ko-Tao wrote:
Paradox wrote:If it wasnt competition worthy, Fios would not have put up $100,000 for a 1v1 tournament, they would have picked another game.
They chose the game because they thought it looked fun. Rough quote from one of the main fios people prior to the tourney: "...we chose hl2dm because we really liked the magnet gun". The eventual winner made it clear in one of his post-win interviews that he didnt think hl2dm was a particularly competitive game either, though the load of trash stock maps they used, all of which were in fully unclipped / unfixed forms and none of which played all that well 1v1, surely had much to do with that.

Not to say the game isnt competitive, but compared to top end, well refined games such as cpma, 1.6, ssf2t, sc and the like, its got a loooong way to go (and at this point its pretty obvious its never going to get there, short of a serious competitive mod being coded to completion).

Yes its got a few issues, not denying that but why the hell did we have 4/5 CAL seasons for this game and why do people still scrim in it if its so bad for competative play and other games are so good? Wishful thinking? Blind Faith that Valve would support it? ???

Blasphemy

2009-08-12 01:13:52

i bhop @ over 9000 vel.

Ko-Tao

2009-08-12 01:26:54

Paradox wrote:Yes its got a few issues, not denying that but why the hell did we have 4/5 CAL seasons for this game and why do people still scrim in it if its so bad for competative play and other games are so good? Wishful thinking? Blind Faith that Valve would support it? ???
Well i actually did think valve would return to supporting it at one point, though time certainly proved me wrong on that one. And at this point, having seen some of their changes to cs/tf2, and how poorly some of their previous changes to hl2dm worked out, id honestly rather they just left it as is- and besides, nothing they could do for the game couldnt be done better by (a) dedicated player(s) in a mod.

And of course its competitive, probably moreso than 99% of the games out there atm. It just doesnt compare well to those games at the top.

Pernicious

2009-08-12 05:14:14

"i bhop @ over 9000 vel."

I BELEIVE!

All hail the leetest cunt on the forums.

Pernicious

2009-08-12 05:18:07

"And of course its competitive, probably moreso than 99% of the games out there atm. It just doesnt compare well to those games at the top."

I suppose, but i said it wasnt competition worthy not that it wasnt competitive *winks*

I beleive, aside from the bugs, hl2dm has major balance issues plus could use some gewderer maps. But that, once again, is personal preference.

Ghost Dog_TSGK

2009-08-12 05:20:20

Pernicious wrote:"i bhop @ over 9000 vel."

I BELEIVE!

All hail the leetest cunt on the forums.
EDIT: FFS QUOTE BUTTON
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Blasphemy

2009-08-12 07:14:14

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Pernicious

2009-08-12 08:58:28

*squints*

Paradox

2009-08-12 21:48:50

Pern, many of us agree with you that we need newer maps however the other half of the community keep voting in the same crap maps every time.

Its not the fault of the game, its the pigheaded attitude of "Noes, we can't have new maps because we will have to learn how to play them or OMGZ we might lose on a new map in a league (THE HORROR!!!!) where we don't even win anything anyway."

New maps would keep it fresh and interesting but some people just get pissed if their fav map isn't there and they whine and say "Im gona quiti and not play if my fav map isn't there" and so the same maps are voted in every time. Meanwhile, everyone else gets bored and quiti anyway. Its a no win situation.

Tranthor

2009-08-12 21:50:29

I have a map. No guns, though. Plus, you'd need like 15 files to host it

voz

2009-08-13 05:02:44

I would like new maps too :wink:

phantom

2009-08-13 18:02:53

you people need to move to a new game, this one is just tearing everyone apart

Va|iums

2009-08-13 19:08:24

phantom wrote:you people need to move to a new game, this one is just tearing everyone apart
You act as if this community is any different then any other competitive online community out there. The trash talk, divisions and ect are the same but on a larger scale in any larger game in the past I've been associated with. In fact the trash talking and devious actions were worse, people got hacked or banned from leagues just because an admin didnt like them. you can always do two games at once, even if I became a cevo p player in CSS id still probably scrim with my old hl2dm friends weekly.

phantom

2009-08-13 19:42:36

Va|iums wrote:In fact the trash talking and devious actions were worse, people got hacked or banned from leagues just because an admin didnt like them.
that dont happen in tf2 and the trash talk in tf2 is considered a joke since its a team game and one person cant win it for the team

Ko-Tao

2009-08-14 00:19:08

phantom wrote:that dont happen in tf2 and the trash talk in tf2 is considered a joke since its a team game and one person cant win it for the team
http://www.gotfrag.com/tf2/forums/170/

phantom

2009-08-14 02:11:26

Ko-Tao wrote:
phantom wrote:that dont happen in tf2 and the trash talk in tf2 is considered a joke since its a team game and one person cant win it for the team
http://www.gotfrag.com/tf2/forums/170/
i dont get it

Tranthor

2009-08-14 05:32:01

one player can easily win a game in tf2. Especially competitively, when they do 5v5 scrims. I know of players in the clan I use to be a member of (I quti because of some dumbass 12 year old mexican kid...) that would regularly snipe enemies out of midair as demoman or soldier, and go entire rounds w/o dying. they used to play tf2 basketball and rock players like 20-0 just because of this one 15 year old...well, nerd.

L2k

2009-08-14 06:13:21

phantom wrote:
Ko-Tao wrote:
phantom wrote:that dont happen in tf2 and the trash talk in tf2 is considered a joke since its a team game and one person cant win it for the team
http://www.gotfrag.com/tf2/forums/170/
i dont get it
If you check out those tf2 forums you will see it is the ultimate in trash talk / trolling, get it now?

phantom

2009-08-14 06:40:34

thats kinda why i said trash talk in tf2 in considered a joke

L2k

2009-08-14 06:53:16

eh I don't see it being anymore of a joke than it is here

voz

2009-08-15 01:35:13

yep l2k is right looks pretty much the same trash talky as in any other game , ive been gettin on tf2 and ive seen ppl trash talk enough to make a server with 20 ppl go down to 4

keefy

2009-08-16 01:58:52

Look at this WOWZA!!
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Paradox

2009-08-19 20:53:59

lol...

This thread still going?! 6 pages...lmfao!!

Poor_Billy

2009-08-19 21:04:57

Paradox wrote:lol...

This thread still going?! 6 pages...lmfao!!
and 74 downloads :)

Sacrifist

2009-08-20 01:04:19

Note to self.....

PM Walking Target and ask him to ban all Australian DM players from the U.



PS, I use a straight stock setup cause I like the challenge.

badinfluence

2009-08-20 05:26:04

Sacrifist wrote:Note to self.....

PM Walking Target and ask him to ban all Australian DM players from the U.



PS, I use a straight stock setup cause I like the challenge.

So does Holy Moly. All the way down to the mouse sens. At least.. that's what he used to tell me. O_o

Pernicious

2009-08-20 06:30:35

"PM Walking Target and ask him to ban all Australian DM players from the U."

*Stab*

Nutri-Grain

2009-08-20 06:51:54

Pernicious wrote:"PM Walking Target and ask him to ban all Australian DM players from the U."

*Stab*
FUCKING QUOTE BUTTON.

Pernicious

2009-08-20 11:37:21

eat quote button

keefy

2009-08-29 19:46:11

Do you type it out or copy + paste? It is far easier to use the quote button than do either.

Nutri-Grain

2009-08-29 20:48:53

.

Pernicious

2009-08-30 05:57:11

Honestly, i have never used it.

Panic

2009-08-31 09:18:03

Whoa am I tardy to some sort of party??

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