ptrain.

Stuck on level X.

But hey, it's progress. Thx to Neo for some tutelage on the basics.

Two things that have really helped me is reducing the resolution so I can clearly see my speed (makes the numbers bigger for my old eyes); and setting sv_cheats 1 and host_timescale .65 for practice on a listen server. Slowing the timescale makes movement a bit like slowmo so I can really concentrate on the movement. After awhile, I went back into console and set the timescale back to 1, then lowered my mouse sensitivity to 3.5. Worked well for me... but still a loooooooooooooooong way to go before applying this in everyday play.

X is a bugger, took me a while to get past it, XI is pretty much the same as X so I done that no bother now I'm stuck on XII and can't really be arsed with it anymore

Also there is a way of making your cl_showpos larger if you're having trouble seeing it

Also there is a way of making your cl_showpos larger if you're having trouble seeing it

Aye, that's what she said.

Also there is a way of making your cl_showpos larger if you're having trouble seeing it

sv_cheats 1, set_h4x_on, sv_i_m_blind_dammit, make_pos_bigger, set_h4x_off , then no_more_buddha_h4x.

And there ya go lol

sv_i_m_blind_dammit

And there ya go lol

lmao /win

rofl xD

I know that alot of people have problems at 12.. ( after seeng the poll ) and I think the reasone is, is that once you have passed 1-11 you have masterd the ground movement required, but 12 is the first one that requires air controle to pass, you need to remember to turn and strafe in mid air in order to maintain and even add to the velocity you got from the strafe jump, once you have learnd that, you will be able to pass 12.
remember that air controle is the key to pass 12 and up, with practive you will do well.

wo0t nice tip....I'll try to concentrate on that next time ;D
thx for the advice

There are already two votes for jump 15 and I haven't voted yet. Who claims to be #3?

I can get level 5. Whoopeee!
Very bad.

There are already two votes for jump 15 and I haven't voted yet. Who claims to be #3?

Seagull and Bunny?

Seagull and Bunny?

Apparently I've been out of the loop too long. Who is Bunny?

I can only do 10 because I suck.
Um if you freeze from the first second of the vid seagull posted you can read the server changed sv_cheats to 1.

Yay in a few months I moved up 2 ptrain levels. I'm awesome. Yeah 12 sucks...and I tried 15 for shits and giggles and it looks like I can get close but no cigar.

Who is Bunny?

some guy who tried a new way of doing it and worked.
He used the wall to gain speed while in mid air, and got out with it.
You can get his demo here. http://www.hl2dm-university.com/forum/p ... f=22&t=905

Who is Bunny?

some guy who tried a new way of doing it and worked.
He used the wall to gain speed while in mid air, and got out with it.
You can get his demo here. http://www.hl2dm-university.com/forum/p ... f=22&t=905

i still have yet to see him do it live

i still have yet to see him do it live

I doubt he will, it's not as easy as you think/might seem. =/

i still have yet to see him do it live

I doubt he will, it's not as easy as you think/might seem. =/

lol i dont think its easy i cant even do 13 but i gotta find someone who has seen him do it atleast

Read the poll, sir Tarkan!@

"What level can you get to on ptrain?"

I'm pretty sure everyone can get to 15 just by walking through the portal! ;o

Read the poll, sir Tarkan!@

"What level can you get to on ptrain?"

I'm pretty sure everyone can get to 15 just by walking through the portal! ;o

ROFL! Nothing like pointing out the logical.

Yeah I noticed that too. Kind of ruins the validity of the poll doesn't it? Oh well.

I think most people understood the question, but I've edited for those who seem to be having difficulty's

I've made it up to level 13, but usually can only get to twelve after an hour of trying lol

jeez I'm hating 15.... I got to 488 on the ground (didn't even know that speed was possible) and couldn't reach the other side.
I'm surely lacking a good air movement =/
I'll get it eventually

means you're not leaving at the edge, you're leaving just before :/

means you're not leaving at the edge, you're leaving just before :/

Thx for the tip seagull ... I'll keep trying !

15 is so easy


Hmm, ah only straffe jump?

Don't know, I'll record later

Maybe 6 or 7 x)

Maybe 6 or 7 x)

>.<

I've just made level 15.... With gravity 575 instead of 600 ... Pfff that's too hard, I don't understand why I always fail :/

With gravity 600, level 14


btw Seagull, did you use infinite speed ? 'Cause your AuxPower stay at the maximum. Oo

Um if you freeze from the first second of the vid seagull posted you can read the server changed sv_cheats to 1.

For infinite aux. He posted a screenshot of his console somewhere, I think @ steamforums.

Might as well use infinite aux... doesnt make the jump any less difficult or valid, just saves a whole lot of time.

I didn't speak about validity

I was just wondering if it makes any differences or not =)

What's wrong with me ?

http://rapidshare.de/files/39509378/ptr ... 1.dem.html

beaten 11 and just about scrape my shins on 12 so I reckon I can do it if i try fro long enough its just i got bored

ah i beat 12 backwards which is as much as i can do forwards... no point what so ever thought but what can everyone beat backwards

I have been practising bhop for two days 1 hour each and today (second day) got to the level 10. Is it okay for beginner or should move quicker to the new levels?

wow seems like what i told you worked lol, thats great for day 2!

Thanks Zman42

(...)

so I was wondering, whats the equivalent ptrain level?

I don't think you can say something is equivalent to the lockdown jump. The reason is the lock down jump has more complications. You must keep ducked and you have to get through a spot which is higher then the spot you jumped from.
(...)

Cheers and thanks, I didn't think about it in that way , any idea what the equivalent 'distance' is? .....like if you were to use a tape measure and measure from the platform to the window ledge. can someone find out in SDK please? I'm just curious that's all

Fearsome is right. The window is 34 units higher than the platform where you jump from. But since the window ledge is lower than the highest distance you can jump+crouch onto (56u), the only thing that matters there in the end is it's horizontal distance of 200 units, and that you jump long enough to get to the window at a hight that is >= 34 units.

But even though, your question can be answered through aritmethics. The Pithagorian Theorem can be applied to give us the Hipotenuse's value (the diagonal length).
H = Sqr Root of (34x34) + (200x200)

(34x34) + (200x200) = 41156

the sqr root of 41156 = 202.86942

Which is not much more than the original 200 units of horizontal distance and it's between 1 and 2 from ptrain.

(...)also can someone tell me the distance, in units, of 14 on ptrain?

Ptrain Jump Measures: (some comparisons (Level.jump1.jumpN))
1- 192
2- 224
3- 256
4- 272
5- 288 (Ultijumps 1/ 5.1.4/ 7/ 10.2.3.4.5 and tr_briggs 1 on 2 bhop sequence*)
6- 304 (Ultijumps 9.1 / 10.1 / 13.1 and tr_briggs 1 on 3rd sequence*)
7- 320
8- 328 (Ultijumps very last one, and and tr_briggs 1 on last bhop seq.*)
9- 336
10- 344
11- 352
12- 360
13- 364
14- 368
15- 372

* I separate tr_briggs in 4 main parts.
1 - start (w/ 1st little bhop seq.)
2 - 2nd bhop seq
3 - 3rd and 4th bhop seqs
4 - Big jump pits

Holy shit. You have too much time on your hands.

, no actually, I just did that to fulfill my curiosity some weeks ago.
And I'm "studying" jumps and distances and all that's related to try to make some jumpmaps.

Wghen making maps its good to know what distance is possible to jump and how high etc I would imagine.

Yes. And this post (as well as the map) is very helpfull in knowing what jumps are possible and what not. Despite theres only 69 votes till now, I can tell that 360 units is a distance that one can still consider including in maps. I think it's still too few votes to be sure, but maybe 364 is already close to "impossible". So I guess I won't include it in my maps.

btw, I think I voted 12, but perhaps I should've voted 11, cuz I've only beat 12 twice.

slick fro can beat level 1600 with the gravity at 1601 with no sprint, with sprint he can get to level 6.022x10^23

slick fro can beat level 1600 with the gravity at 1601 with no sprint, with sprint he can get to level 6.022x10^23

WT can you ban him for repeat offending?
Have you not been reading what we say to you scott?

slick fro can beat level 1600 with the gravity at 1601 with no sprint, with sprint he can get to level 6.022x10^23

WT can you ban him for repeat offending?
Have you not been reading what we say to you scott?

sayyy whaaaaaaaaaat?

slick fro can beat level 1600 with the gravity at 1601 with no sprint, with sprint he can get to level 6.022x10^23

WT can you ban him for repeat offending?
Have you not been reading what we say to you scott?

sayyy whaaaaaaaaaat?

Wow he really is ignorant..

I don't really et why people are so obsessed with ptrain?

I'd rather focus on beating briggs map flawlessly WAYYYY over being able to be able to get this 1 jump out of 2738 on ptrain #15

I much prefer practicing going from the barrels off the rail into charger on ld, than ptrain. much more fun much more useful.

Why don't you two get your own thread called "Maps I'd rather play instead of ptrain"??? I'm sure it'll turn into a great topic like all the other ones you spam the shit out of

Why don't you two get your own thread called "Maps I'd rather play instead of ptrain"??? I'm sure it'll turn into a great topic like all the other ones you spam the shit out of

Ow.

i'd rather play dm_conflict's secret bhop-training room.

/start bitch slap

Why don't you two get your own thread called "Maps I'd rather play instead of ptrain"??? I'm sure it'll turn into a great topic like all the other ones you spam the shit out of

/end bitch slap

Jelly just bitch slapped the zman.

I'd rather focus on beating briggs map flawlessly WAYYYY over being able to be able to get this 1 jump out of 2738 on ptrain #15

true, but I hate that map, distances aren't really good. I had to practice a lot to get from where and how to jump on that map so as to be able to do it without any mistake. Obviously, I did it flawlessly just once and don't plan to try again, what for? ;P

The best maps, in my opinion, is ultimate_jumps. Briggs is nice but it's too damn short, and style's maps are a little like you say, you must try to jump less, so you dont overjump any platform and fail.

As for ultimatejumps, there's a lot you can do there. You can either ty to do it flawlessly, or you can do it... (how can I explain this...) without stopping on any platform for adjusting your position for the next jump, for example in 5, you jump to the first platform and as soon as you land jump again imediately, and so on. I do it well on 4, 6, 7 and 13 , 5, 8, and 10 are hard for me to do it. You can also do the 1st lower part of 12 bhoping (withouth crouching).
I just don't care much for 11. The rest is really good.

I can post a demo of it if anyone's curious about it.

I can post a demo of it if anyone's curious about it.

Yes please, post it in the demo section

Here: (updated since there were no more posts after mine)
http://www.mediafire.com/?ymmnimxzgym (dead link - see next post)

It's my first render ever. I messed up in the Vegas and rendered at a lower resolution But I rendered again and there you go. 1280x720 16:9, just like watching a movie Don't forget to get some popcorn.

This video does not show me trying to achieve, but rather the achievements themselves.
There's no editing at all, I just put them together and rendered.

There's me doing the parts number:
4, 6, 7 (did 7 at first try )
8 (not achieving it)
9
12 without crouching (I have yet to stop after it cuz when I get to the higher platform I go too fast to jump right away)
and 13

Enjoy!

Ok, just made a better and more organized version of the video. Vegas is a really nice prog.

http://www.mediafire.com/?ozyw1zjgmmc

(I also posted it in the Department of Film

it says 8 people made 15 and 5 people made 14.

Highest I did was 14.

I seriously doubt 8 people from the U made 15.

And if you did, Damn I feel sorry for you to sit there for 3 hours recording lol

Lol. I voted 15. ; D

Yeah, just people being assholes and messing up the votes... congrats to you guys, I bet you feel special

or ppl that made 15 once!

or ppl that made 15 once!

there definitely arent that many people that could do it...
my list of people who have done it or who could do it in a reasonable amount of tries is:
seagull
tarkan
luke
briggs
onty
.. thats about it i think, forgive me if ive missed some strafejumping god but i think ive nailed the potentials. oh and chuck norris. he can do it without sprint.

oh and chuck norris. he can do it without sprint.

.......

what about bunny?

what about bunny?

dunno who that is, never seen him in any game or cal...

With 15 you have got to the point where its just plain luck, if your more persistent you can make 15 in less try's, but your never going to jump into a server and casually do ptrain 15. Maybe with 14 though, I did it my first try on demo :)

what about bunny?

dunno who that is, never seen him in any game or cal...

Thats sin, was with MFX as sneaky person #1 and other names... sigh so many names with that one. >.<

I don't really et why people are so obsessed with ptrain?

I'd rather focus on beating briggs map flawlessly WAYYYY over being able to be able to get this 1 jump out of 2738 on ptrain #15

Ptrain is a good (tho not so attractive) way of perfecting your strafe jumps, solely.

Briggs map is easy as hell. The only dificulty is the upper bars that slow you down or even get you stuck in some servers. Sorry to disapoint you, but it's not so skill wise.
It's not briggs fault, it's the engine..., but If you play it without them you'll be overjumping every jump in there. And besides, the last part is not so consistent, you never get the same speed every time, and it's imho not a very useful thing to train (very much like jumpstyle #5).
And... it's too short.

You really think that's the best thing you can do to train yourself?
I'd rather train in dm maps than in briggs... (if I didn't have ultimatejumps_r1/_extreme, jump_journey... and maybe academy_nubtrainer)

I don't really et why people are so obsessed with ptrain?

I'd rather focus on beating briggs map flawlessly WAYYYY over being able to be able to get this 1 jump out of 2738 on ptrain #15

Ptrain is a good (tho not so attractive) way of perfecting your strafe jumps, solely.

Briggs map is easy as hell. The only dificulty is the upper bars that slow you down or even get you stuck in some servers. Sorry to disapoint you, but it's not so skill wise.
It's not briggs fault, it's the engine..., but If you play it without them you'll be overjumping every jump in there. And besides, the last part is not so consistent, you never get the same speed every time, and it's imho not a very useful thing to train (very much like jumpstyle #5).
And... it's too short.

You really think that's the best thing you can do to train yourself?
I'd rather train in dm maps than in briggs... (if I didn't have ultimatejumps_r1/_extreme, jump_journey... and maybe academy_nubtrainer)

I'm still a fan of doing lockdown jumps for practice

I'm still a fan of doing lockdown jumps for practice

And Caverns is also a very good training map

I'm still a fan of doing lockdown jumps for practice

And Caverns is also a very good training map

Indeed. Mostly any map is a good training.
Lost Arena has some nice stuff too. Just hate the lifts...

just downloaded this map and tried.. came to lvl 7 ... BUT ... as far as i heared the movement has changed some time ago and u cant bhop anymore that fast and long?! whats up with that? and is it still possible to get through all stages in ptrain now?

the more i get to know i realize i came too late into that game^^

You can still strafe jump just as easily.
So no excuses for not making at least level 12.

k... thx... i see me allready doin this the next days

OMG, i stared at your avatar and i saw Jesus!

just downloaded this map and tried.. came to lvl 7 ... BUT ... as far as i heared the movement has changed some time ago and u cant bhop anymore that fast and long?! whats up with that? and is it still possible to get through all stages in ptrain now?

the more i get to know i realize i came too late into that game^^

I haven't played after the shitty engine update, but from what I've heard the only thing that's screwed is the fast consecutive strafe jumps, or perhaps to be more precise, strafe jumping from crouch stance. And this was exactly the most fun part of it for me, and now you can't do this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LryIBC1CR8 , and I doubt jump maps are fun now since most require you to crouch for adjusting your position and a strafe jump from there is much more effective...

My preciousssssss is ruined...