Ideas?

Seems like everyone is recruiting, old clans, new clans, revised clans, reformed clans, renamed clans and so on. This is making it very difficult to build a good solid team of serious and qualified competitive players to go to cal. Hard to get people to commit to begin with, we know we will loose some and well.. it is making me want to throw my hands up in the air and say forget it for this cal season. Now, I often though and I have mentioned this to some that perhaps 2 small clans could get together and form a CAL team, rather than trying to recruit new members into their clan, this way the two clans could share resources, responsibilities, etc. What do you guys think?

How many people should a team be realistically be comprised of? Seems to me that you need your starter team and some back ups, what is the magic number?

POMP :evil:

all depends on how reliable your starters are. :roll:

having player trouble blas?

damn you tg!

pomp, 4 is good enough, maybe 6

I will add that as awesome as it is to have 5 enthusiastic players, when they all show up for a 4v4, someone's sitting out.

It really depends on the people, their schedules and their ability/ desire to commit to what needs to be done.

My thoughts now for Khaos is to have a minimum of 6. 4 would be the starters for the 4v4 team and 2 would be backups. The 2 backups would be the starters for a 2v2 team with the 2 more available from the 4v4 being their backups. This way everyone is guaranteed to be able to play each week if they want to. It also keeps everyone involved and enthusiastic (hopefully) if they aren't the one getting left out.

Sometimes its too hard or too much for one person to be able to be the starter for both every week.

Ill add that Khaos is still looking for at least one more to round out our 6.

That brings up another point Pomp, new teams like ours are most likely not going to attract the seasoned players. We aren't skilled enough yet and the chances of going far in the season are slim. We need to grow our own team and get our asses beat up along the way.

I have 2 home grown players that want to give it a go next season on 2v2 so I have 5 total. I need one more for 4v4 to have teams as I described above.

If I can't find the 6th either someone will have to do double duty and be a starter for both or I go with just the 4v4 again with one backup or two 2v2 teams and someone gets left out and in the case of the 2 2v2, one team won't have a backup.

I have had the same thoughts Pomp. Not sure what I am going to do yet but I am leaning more the other way right now but I can't make that decision.

I have worked too hard to build Khaos and if either myself or my co-leader leaves it is done for. It would probably take something pretty big or special for me to give it up.

I also feel the need to be able to train and I am finding that I am having trouble doing that, run the clan (and all its divisions), keep our pub busy to try to attract more new members to grow our clan and team because there are basically 2-3 of us contributing to help that process along and its not enough. I turn down scrims all the time because I don't want to abandon our pub server because I believe that to be the key to our existence as a clan/team right now. That philosophy has worked so far.

I love what we have done and I love our pub because we did it the way we wanted it.

The double edged sword is that with Khaos right now, I can't participte in CAL the way I would like, but without Khaos there would be no CAL team for me. There really is no where that I can go where I would be accepted or that would work given my time zone and schedule.

Good luck with your team, I hope it works out for you all.

Our stk team had 6 players (maybe 5) on the roster and we had trouble getting 2 people together for a match...so I dunno if that helps. But that's part of why our CAL season was so laggy and went to shit.

yes, well I am expecting it kinda all go to shit first Cal, I am prepare for failure not because of lack of trying but rather situation.

Paradox, it is impossible to do both, especially with a clan that is about to hit 40 members, all very solid. This is important to me, I simply have no fun doing just the pub, sitting there day after day with zero challenge would just drive me to drink. I am not leaving the clan to no one to run it, I think this time they are prepare to pick up the work once I am gone and if not I can't be doing stuff for other people and ignoring what I would like to do, even if I never get anywhere.. so I can say I tried. Either way I have turned in a direction MF is not happy with and will probably be happy to see and my "entourage" of bad boys go, but in good terms, I am not hating on anyone

Perhaps we reach some sort of agreement where we still have MFX but the rest of MF is not under my care, is too soon to tell right now to be honest.

POMP

Zman42 wrote:having player trouble blas?

theres always troubles my friend.

MF'erPOMP wrote:yes, well I am expecting it kinda all go to shit first Cal, I am prepare for failure not because of lack of trying but rather situation.

Paradox, it is impossible to do both, especially with a clan that is about to hit 40 members, all very solid. This is important to me, I simply have no fun doing just the pub, sitting there day after day with zero challenge would just drive me to drink. I am not leaving the clan to no one to run it, I think this time they are prepare to pick up the work once I am gone and if not I can't be doing stuff for other people and ignoring what I would like to do, even if I never get anywhere.. so I can say I tried. Either way I have turned in a direction MF is not happy with and will probably be happy to see and my "entourage" of bad boys go, but in good terms, I am not hating on anyone

Perhaps we reach some sort of agreement where we still have MFX but the rest of MF is not under my care, is too soon to tell right now to be honest.

POMP

Well next cal season if I haven't found a practice partner or what not feel free to PM me and ask if I'm still interested about being a bench/backup player for MFX and I'd love to help you guys practice for CAL.

Honestly I say just go for it several seasons $W has said I am not sure we can get enough together, your thinking what the team that has won so many? But yes that's the way it is. The funny thing is when we think we just do not have enough time or players it seems we still make it we just barely slide by. You don't lose anything by trying you just become a better player and if MF falls apart you can either recruit more or the players that are on it can join other teams. In competition no one forces you to play on a team you are in a "clan" with. So you see some guys like OFC Iowa Moe who are in clans that won't compete joining teams like Khaos who do compete. The more important thing is do take a couple extra players but take people with good attitudes cause bad ones will wreck your clan faster then anything else they won't show up even when they can and they will quti matches half way through when they are losing leaving you short handed. Also realize people have real lives that sometimes get in the way so you will see 1 player kinda become less active for a while maybe even claim to quti the game, but pretty soon they will be back. The other thing is as more new clans join other new clans will follow suit cause there will be a wider range of skills. And in the end everyone will be happier as they play more clans closer to them in skill. I think the main point I have here is that you do not need all the details worked out ahead of time you sorta just jump in the water and learn how to swim.

Also if you have more players then can play each match try to rotate them in. But more important is just try to get scrimmages jump in IRC it is getting popular and our bot is getting new features every day it can now set up pick up games and make server links. People are getting matches together on a daily basis. This is where you can keep the extra players playing even if they are not on the starting squad.

Well, I am JUMPING fearsome (can I get a hug??) I have officially quti MF as a clan leader, would have been amicable but a couple of top admins chose to get UGLY, so it's official as of today. I am now making my own CAL team (unless ~SW~ wants to adopt me and make me 2cool too) MFX will stay with MF except for those that choose to join me. I am not going to sweat it tho, if I can't get a team going, I may just do a 2v2 team for the first season, my focus right now is on training

Thanks!

POMP

last post as [MF]

good luck to you pomp! I definitely would agree with fearsome in saying just go for it and see what happens. This was flaS' first season in cal (in fact are first season in ANYTHING) and from the preseason i thought there was no way we would make it anywhere in 4v4, due to scheduling. but it just works out lol, usually just in the nick of time. so i say go for it, and sort it out when you have to.

Always willing to take an ass kicking to learn more. Hit me up for a 1 v 1 or 2 v 2 ms. pomp

Ok Cyber... I just might.. I am getting much more comfortable with my settings and working on my movement, but I have not seen ya around

Ty Z.. well I am there is no going bak now.. so I better really do this hahahah

POMP

MF'erPOMP wrote:Ok Cyber... I just might.. I am getting much more comfortable with my settings and working on my movement, but I have not seen ya around

Ty Z.. well I am there is no going bak now.. so I better really do this hahahah

POMP

Half Life 2 Deathmatch: (16%)

Well re-member this is just a game, and you should have fun with it no matter what you do,
Play with people you have a fun time with, and you'll be fine. If you want to Improve your game doing 1v1 or 2v2 against better players/teams will make you improve. I know how you feel, i had to take a break from leading a clan for a couple months, felt good having other people worry about all that stuff, now i have the energy to do it again, Gonna try and keep everything simple this time around thou.

lol cyber yeah that sucks re-doing everything from scratch.. have fun


NM, yeah I know originally I was going to take a break, this has been going on for a while and there was more stuff that just came out when things got ugly. I never wanted MF to get that big but as it is is more for socialization than anything else, which is fine, just not what I had hoped for. Had they been more supportive of me and my adventures, perhaps we could have come to a better understanding, but it is what is.

POMP

4:13PM EST (I started downloading DM at roughly noon...) and it's only 47% done.

cyber_clash wrote:4:13PM EST (I started downloading DM at roughly noon...) and it's only 47% done.

LOL. Get a new PC and fast, or a simpler way, just blow up this one, so you will HAVE to get a new one

CoNfuSed wrote:

cyber_clash wrote:4:13PM EST (I started downloading DM at roughly noon...) and it's only 47% done.

LOL. Get a new PC and fast, or a simpler way, just blow up this one, so you will HAVE to get a new one

Uh I have a good PC...

cyber_clash wrote:

CoNfuSed wrote:

cyber_clash wrote:4:13PM EST (I started downloading DM at roughly noon...) and it's only 47% done.

LOL. Get a new PC and fast, or a simpler way, just blow up this one, so you will HAVE to get a new one

Uh I have a good PC...

Your connection sucks! D:

Anyway I wish you luck with everything pomp! You'll still see me around xD

RR Lite yeah I know.