dm_mist_v1 // my very first map

well, here it is, my very first map for HL2DM , feedback wellcome

beta_mist_01.zip:
http://files.filefront.com/beta+mist+01zip/;118208






Soundscape version coming soon! (if I can get to handle its weirdness)

seeyas

Ill wait for the screens to comment.

Paradox wrote:Ill wait for the screens to comment.

posted, now comment!

yeah, I know, it's not THAT cool but, come on it's my first try!

Well my first impression is meh, but when i think about it that could cause intense gameplay though if you fill it up with a lot of people :O.

looks like my kinda map, small and mean ill down load give it a run about.

I think the textures look fine as far as how you fit them together. It is a small map and could provide for some intense game play with alot of people as was stated. What were you orginally thinking of designing it for? If its for a pub of 16 people you would really need to make sure there are enough weapons around. If people spawn and cant find weapon easily before they die then they wont like the map. Personally I would like to see a bit more variety in the landscape, its going to be hard to tell where you are when you spawn because everything looks very similar. That said, from a technical standpoint it looks pretty good for a first map. Good job.

Paradox wrote:I think the textures look fine as far as how you fit them together. It is a small map and could provide for some intense game play with alot of people as was stated. What were you orginally thinking of designing it for? If its for a pub of 16 people you would really need to make sure there are enough weapons around. If people spawn and cant find weapon easily before they die then they wont like the map. Personally I would like to see a bit more variety in the landscape, its going to be hard to tell where you are when you spawn because everything looks very similar. That said, from a technical standpoint it looks pretty good for a first map. Good job.

excellent review, I've found that too, testing it, when I spawn I don't know exactly where am I, I should make a v2 with the containers placed in some other way or with other colors.
The guns, yeah I was lazy I put very little gun spawns.
I made a solid ground brush and detailed the floor with a displacement of rocks.
It's supposed to be a all vs all map, teamplay wouldn't work well here.
Thanks to you and the other users who made constructive critics,

oh btw, looks like noone knows how HDR works! damn, I want to make HDR maps, but oh well it's a small detail.

See y'all around

OD_Knuckles wrote:oh btw, looks like noone knows how HDR works! damn, I want to make HDR maps, but oh well it's a small detail.

just click expert tab when you compile and you'll see hdr compile in the 'configurations' drop down list

http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki ... mpile_mode

make sure you have some env_cubemaps placed, especially where the lighting changes
and move them to chest height around 56 unit i think.
once its compiled jump in and type buildcubemaps in the console, restart load the map for the lovely hdr effect
*PS sopmetimes you may need to load another map 1st, b4 you can see the hdr effect.

as i suspected, its a great map

some suggestions:

weapon placement:
We are quite used to going into those containers to collect weapons,
seems like a logical choice for them to be as it puts players at a slight
dis-advantage
weapon count needs to go up, although its a small map so youll need
to balance it right, i would maybe add 2 mags, 2 shottys, 1 or 2 xbows, 1 ar2 + orb
1 slam and some ammo for each but no rpg, unless its super hard to get otherwise
it would kill this map.

maybe you could put it here so you have to grav gun it
gameplay:
I like the layout, dont change a thing

The only suggetsion i would have would be to allow access to the top
of the crates, there is a corner that is kinda a deadend, it would be
a perfect location for a ladder that goes above the wall, but that is
broken so only allows you access to the top of a cargo crate.
*edit* i just found you can get there from the displacement

Also player clip the fence, not a big issue but i like things to be smooth
and it can be a bit bouncy when yuo ping offf em.

Sounds:
have a look at the env_soundscape entity, you can find some nice outside
dock sounds for this map
PS you can test the sounds through the console, not in hammer unfortuantley
ill post back when i remeber or find out how i did it...

bad spawn point: ive found 2 Oo
move this away from the crate a little mate, you spawn stuck here keep it up

PS if you want somewhere to host this map just let me know

well the textures fit indeed,but i like to see more differents is texture. like the surounding walls, you can chop it up in more layers and give the top a other texture. brake the wall up a little bit with support/corner pillars. add some decals/overlays to the map. just ingeneral more detailing to give it a more realistic look.
and look out with the hdr it can be very annoting while playing if you make it to strong.

good luck

Thanks you all again, I'll start working in all this right now.

THANKS PIG POPPER!!!!!!!!!!! now I can map with HDR, mil thanks.

The weapon placement I admit I did not put much effort on it since I tought that my map would be ugly to players, but now I see some feedback and constructive critics I might start thinking seriously about weapon placement and spawn points.

OD_Knuckles wrote:Thanks you all again, I'll start working in all this right now.

THANKS PIG POPPER!!!!!!!!!!! now I can map with HDR, mil thanks.

The weapon placement I admit I did not put much effort on it since I tought that my map would be ugly to players, but now I see some feedback and constructive critics I might start thinking seriously about weapon placement and spawn points.

go for it bud, this is the fun part i'd seriously consider making that rpg harder to reach though

you can use my server for testing if you need it
add me to your friends list if you like pigpopper

for a first map this rocks. Great Job and keep it up.

a bit of correction as for HDR .. .

when you bring up the Hammer Compiler (press F9) check the box that says HDR and run the compiler.
When it finished, launch the game and load your new map
open console and type buildcubemaps
when this finishes type sv_cheats 1
type mat_hdr_enable 0
type buildcubemaps (yes, again!)
load a different map.
load your new map again now. you're done

another correction about Cubemaps height. that should be 64 units in DM. it's lower for CS:S but you plays that nowadays, right?

Ok, I've added HDR, guns, a ladder, and fixed spawning problems, the first version complete is here.

beta_mist_01.zip:
http://files.filefront.com/beta+mist+01zip/;118208




some other fixes may be added to the v2 I think, thanks for the support.
Main post edited with the new link.

OD_Knuckles wrote:some other fixes may be added to the v2 I think

just a suggestion but maybe take the name back to beta_mist_01 or similar, you dont want multiple versions
out there with the same name, you'll find ppl get the "your map differs" error they seldom take to time
to delete and update their map folder.
plus it sounds like yuo have a few good ideas to test out b4 its released again

[22g]Pig Popper wrote:

OD_Knuckles wrote:some other fixes may be added to the v2 I think

just a suggestion but maybe take the name back to beta_mist_01 or similar, you dont want multiple versions
out there with the same name, you'll find ppl get the "your map differs" error they seldom take to time
to delete and update their map folder.
plus it sounds like yuo have a few good ideas to test out b4 its released again

thanks again, yea that happens, happened to me with lockdown_v2, and some others.
I will clean up everything and change the name soon.

You any closer to finnishing this map bud?
I wanna see this map completed, should fit nicley in our small maps server



PS if youve moved on i wouldnt mind looking at it *ahem

Hdr in multiplayer maps is a waste of time, fps, and usually looks because it is rarely done right.

couldn't agree more. if you're looking for nice colors use color_correction and save FPS. BUY NOW!!!

[EYE] Valar wrote:couldn't agree more. if you're looking for nice colors use color_correction and save FPS. BUY NOW!!!

any useful linkies for us to look at Mr V?

ill tut this subject shortly.
CC rocks. and again - thanks to KoTao for reminding me of this wonderful Source feature.

actually...this is the best tut out there lol
http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki ... correction

shout me if you get in trouble.

val