Please, help yourself to all my stuff...np!!!!!!!!

http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/89168

the "mapper" name is Krypt
got the nerve to also add the map is his "FULL DESIGN" see page
i just cannot believe this crap. can't people get their own shit together and not fuking STEAL from others?
might as well call it dm_milieu_krypt
oh sorry, he's got a better name for it: dm_purlieu_final
i ask you - seriously. is he fuking kidding me?

wanna hear the funniest part? - i've been HELPING him via PMs throughout this without knowing he is literally steeling from me. and i just know he's gonna play stupid when i confront him about it. watch this space.

val

LMAO> i love how he says.....

"Most Custom textures/models Were from maps that are in the list following..

dm_losthope - Valar.
dm_milieu_r6 - Valar.
background_mil - NykO18.

Thanks for the wonderful textures and models in these awesome maps."

and THEN says:

"......All of the map is custom stuff (textures & models). "

pathetic really

Looks like he just moved a few brushes around. I had to snicker at the roof texture in the 2nd shot. So the guy is talented enough to claim credit for this but not to align a texture decently?

Technically his comment about custom content is correct...still If I were you Valar i would get your hands dirty with rotten fruit and post a disclaimer there, or at least insist he put a game_text in the map that states you did not compile it.

There was a mainsteam rock radio hit a couple years ago by a band that completely ripped off Tool, this reminds me of that

edit: I just had to bite and have a look around. There's been worse ripoffs in history but not quite as thorough and complete as this. Sadly it seems the guy may actually have a handle on layout theory, though the performance is noticeably worse.

His propane canisters are borked white, I'm guessing you won't be helping him with that one

pathetic really

Looks like he just moved a few brushes around. I had to snicker at the roof texture in the 2nd shot. So the guy is talented enough to claim credit for this but not to align a texture decently?

Technically his comment about custom content is correct...still If I were you Valar i would get your hands dirty with rotten fruit and post a disclaimer there, or at least insist he put a game_text in the map that states you did not compile it.

There was a mainsteam rock radio hit a couple years ago by a band that completely ripped off Tool, this reminds me of that

well, the way he said it, made it sound like he did the customizing.

http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/89168#msgbox

Where is him, I will kill him

Fools Alley, Jerksville, Pathetia.

i just played the map. this is amazing. he literally ripped off whole parts of brushwork along with their textures and entities not only from milieu but also from lost hope.
no shame.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/Kryptastrophe

I dont know of any good mappers that havent had their shit stolen. Welcome to the club. Im getting the impression that this guy is acting like you pissed him off in some way and that he released this to just piss you off. If this isnt the case, then he is a real whack job. I know a couple of admins at fps, Ill get this removed.

I dont know of any good mappers that havent had their shit stolen. Welcome to the club. Im getting the impression that this guy is acting like you pissed him off in some way and that he released this to just piss you off. If this isnt the case, then he is a real whack job. I know a couple of admins at fps, Ill get this removed.

its weird that you said this, because i was actually thinking the same thing. its like he took a bunch of Valar's stuff from a couple maps, put them together is a horrible manner for no reason. i mean, i cant really think that is a map he is proud of. idk.

Isnt there a way to stop people decompiling maps?

man thats so lame.i like where he sed "This map took many moons of hard ass work," he left out the part about valar was the 1 that did the work. i hope this dosent put yuo off helping other.

I dont think this is his either.
http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/57218

i have no idea why he'd be pissed at me. its not something i'm aware of and tbh i couldn't care less. i think he simply thought he could get away with it unnoticed.

and no keefy, there is no way of preventing ppl from decompiling maps. BSP is java based and hack easy for anyone who knows Java...but having said that - there is NOTHING WRONG with decompiling. i don't care my maps get decomp'd (and i know they do more than they're played lol) hell i also decomp other ppl's maps myself. this is part of the learning process and it's a great tool for getting a handle on how some things are done. but to actually copy something off the decomp'd map is just BULLSHIT. you know, i've seen at least 20 maps ppl simply copied off my brushwork but i think the main reason was the mapper was new and didn't know how to handle the tool yet but this is like holly shit. he went too far on this one.

edit: BTW, WT, editing posts puts it in quotes in a new post

idk what the mappers "code of ethics" is, i can make an educated guess tho. couple of points that are on my mind:

1-i played this map to see if Valar had a legitimate case......he absolutely does. this is straight up, an obvious rip off of 2 of Valar's maps. if you have played millue or losthope there is no question that you would have to aggree.

2-Did the map testers in question have knowledge that Valar was helping him? the mapper could have told them that Val was helping him and gave him permission to use those ideas. if it were me testing that map i would have gone to Valar asked him if that were true immediately. but, that is because im very very close friends with Valar and I am extremely familar with his work and his mapping style. i dont know voz or beef well enough to know their relationship with Val. all i am saying is they may have been hosed here too. if i wasnt good friends with val and didnt know his style as well as i do and i was asked to play test that map and the mapper told me that Val was helping him, i prolly wouldnt have thought twice about it either.

3-does anybody know this guy? could we ask him to post here saying what his intentions were? i do know that he did credit Valar and his maps on the DL site, and Val said he is new to mapping, so b4 we bash him, we might want to talk to him. perhaps he didnt know what he was doing was so wrong. (plz dont jump down my throat on that comment) it's just what is obvious to some, isnt obvious to others.

wow...is vishty a mapper too? lol jk

too sad to see this val. hope it'll be resolved soon :S.
i hate when ppl just steal ur style and effort in making things.

How can you say that it's Valars work?? That makes no sense, If it was his work, then HE would have fuckin made the map.

His post right before he trashed it lol.

How can you say that it's Valars work?? That makes no sense, If it was his work, then HE would have fuckin made the map.

His post right before he trashed it lol.

well i guess that clears up the mystery of his intensions

well looks like the map was removed from fpsbanana, good.

You should see my new project. Its called DM FugginMudaFuga!!

I also have a DMHopelost in the works.

Still much love !!!!

I am also planning on releasing dm_ueilim, which will be one of those reversed maps. The whole map will be submerged in water, and you will need to jump up out of it to grab the RPG.

The whole map will be submerged in water, and you will need to jump up out of it to grab the RPG.

lol?

sounds like you'll need to jump up to get above the water FPS first

Ive always wanted to make Lockdown China myself where the map is fully upside down with a few jump pads

Huh?!??! What?
Sorry man, but wtheck?

Ok so you say that I "Copied" from Milieu and Losthope, No I didn't for your fucking information. How can you say that I just moved around the brushworks, etc.

While testing it, many people said that it looks like milieu, yeah, from the textures and what not, it's from those maps (well really they are all from CSS) But you can't fuckin jump to conclusion that I copied and pasted it.

I didn't know I was suppose to ask permission to use CSS textures, Its not like I made the map with Valars textures and/or models. If they were CREATED BY HIM, then i would have not used it at all.

Is it really Valar.Corporation ? no, I am pretty sure all the textures are from the makers of CSS. Hm, Yes, I am right.

How do YOU have proof that i decompiled your maps, and copied and pasted, When i posted the map, and was writing the description, I wasn't telling everyone I was COPING those maps, I was saying that i USED them for the textures/models.

You jumping to conclusions just isn't fair at all. - I asked for your help many times, and I thank you for all the times that you have helped me with all yuor knowledge.

And whoeevr said that i didnt make this map, -
http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/57218 yes, I did made it.

The text that apears annoys the crap out of me its in the way of the crosshair.

And whoeevr said that i didnt make this map, -
http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/57218 yes, I did made it.

Then how about don't fuckin play it?

to wrap this up Mr. mapper:
getting INSPIRED from someone else's work is a major part of what art is all about. but you take that INSPIRATION and elaborate and morph it into something else. something YOURS.
what YOU've done was far from it. anyone could see Milieu and Lost Hope in your map. anyone could not help not notice the variation on Milieu's name in your map.
anyone can see design ideas not only in dm_purilieu but also in dm_unraveling which has Swot's Lostarena written all over it.
I also hear you were told about the similarity to my maps WHILE playtesting. so it seems you had a pretty good idea how all this was going to end.
Point is: It's wrong and you should not only make amends but correct yourself and in the future not do this again.
Have a good life.

How about don't get fucking butthurt over it and move on with your life?

So you are saying that every fucking dumb asss killbox you make isn't copying someone else? Hm. Yeah, Exactly.

You just jump to FUCKING conclusion that I COPIED AND PASTED< MOVED THE BRUSHES AROUND AND CALLED IT MY MAP.

You have no fucking proof showing that I copied and pasted, How do you know I didn't spend months on this map? How do you know that all of this was done with every single brushwork, created by me, Oh I know, becuase since it might look like Milieu, and you say it also looks like losthope,. your lifeless body is saying that I had copied it over, moved tthe brushes around, and slapped a name on it.

Stop being suck a jew about this shit and move on with your god damn life.

jess its pretty simple its what we call plagiarism if you use someone else creative work no matter how small and do not give credit to the maker of the material you will get crap thrown into your face. Peeps don't mind people using there work but they at least want to be informed about the use of their work that they spent allot of time and hard work making it so have some respect.

If you can't understand that then you might as well quti (damn forums spelled it wrong) mapping because 1.You made your self look bad to the community you want to make maps for 2.No ones going to play it (hint whole point of a mapper in short you just wasted your time map that does not get played it pointless waste of time) 3.how about your a complete moron to shorten this list

well that me done

Stop being suck a jew about this shit and move on with your god damn life.

now that's class. thanks for showing yourself as you really are.

I did not see the map so I can't be sure, but Krypt, if what I hear is correct, and the map you made is basically a rip off of Valar's 2 maps just as Unraveling and especially its predecessor (roundarena) is a rip off of lostarea, then he has a right to be upset. Maybe you should consider being more creative and coming up with your own material instead of borrowing everyone elses.

Also beware of the flaming and bigotry policy on these forums. I think you need to be reminded of this:

http://www.hl2dm-university.com/forum/p ... p?f=8&t=19

How about don't get fucking butthurt over it and move on with your life?

So you are saying that every fucking dumb asss killbox you make isn't copying someone else? Hm. Yeah, Exactly.

You just jump to FUCKING conclusion that I COPIED AND PASTED< MOVED THE BRUSHES AROUND AND CALLED IT MY MAP.

You have no fucking proof showing that I copied and pasted, How do you know I didn't spend months on this map? How do you know that all of this was done with every single brushwork, created by me, Oh I know, becuase since it might look like Milieu, and you say it also looks like losthope,. your lifeless body is saying that I had copied it over, moved tthe brushes around, and slapped a name on it.

Stop being suck a jew about this shit and move on with your god damn life.

Dude, you did copy and paste. There is an entire section of Milieu in the map and also an entire section of losthope lol. You dont deserve credit just because you removed a few brushes, moved some props around, and retextured a few things lol. Even if you did create new brushes, they are identical in size, width, and length. Why even bother? Had I did something like that, I would of just copy and pasted it. Would of saved alot of time considering the dimensions were going to be identical lol.

The proper thing would of been to give Valar the credit and put your name on the ass end for combining his maps to create yours. Although, you would of needed permission from Valar to use his brushwork in the first place so this is all basically nil anyways.

How about don't get fucking butthurt over it and move on with your life?

So you are saying that every fucking dumb asss killbox you make isn't copying someone else? Hm. Yeah, Exactly.

You just jump to FUCKING conclusion that I COPIED AND PASTED< MOVED THE BRUSHES AROUND AND CALLED IT MY MAP.

You have no fucking proof showing that I copied and pasted, How do you know I didn't spend months on this map? How do you know that all of this was done with every single brushwork, created by me, Oh I know, becuase since it might look like Milieu, and you say it also looks like losthope,. your lifeless body is saying that I had copied it over, moved tthe brushes around, and slapped a name on it.

Stop being suck a jew about this shit and move on with your god damn life.

first you ask for his help. then you rip him off. then you insult him publically? not cool

VALAR WINS THE MATCH!

Ive always wanted to make Lockdown China myself where the map is fully upside down with a few jump pads

Fearsome already beat you to it, though he left out the jump pads for a more skill intensive movement experience.

Stop being suck a jew about this shit and move on with your god damn life.

Not cool. Enjoy your ban.

EDIT: Account appears to also be VAC banned...

I cannot believe the nerve this guy has. There are some crazy shits out there.

Proof that the Top Players of HL2DM cheat. Just look at his Steam page.

Hey, I saw a map on this: 195.131.104.140:27025 server and thought hmmm this looks a lot like xbow eye.. And I saw earlier versions of it, but this doesn't seem to be one: http://FastFreeFileHosting.com/file/370 ... p-bsp.html

holy crap.. this is so cheeky..

decompiling someones work to have a look on how things done.. is one thing
i also do it from time to time.. if i wanna try something i haven´t done before
as example a ballspawner or somewhat..
like valar said part of he learning process..

but this...

first you ask for his help. then you rip him off. then you insult him publically? not cool

damn right chem

its like happy ripping weeks @ mcdonalds..
i want bigmac sauce on a cheeseburger but don´t forget to put it in the royal ts bread

not delicious at all

"How do YOU have proof that i decompiled your maps, and copied and pasted, When i posted the map, and was writing the description, I wasn't telling everyone I was COPING those maps, I was saying that i USED them for the textures/models."

LMAO! You used those maps and used large chunks of them. And you ADMIT IT!
You did but you didn't!?!?
That is the point of this thread
And how can one say you co-opted large chunks of other folks work?
Well, many here just posted that you did and it is obvious.
Not one. More than one. And it is SO obvious.

And then you hurl that slimey ethnic epithet.
And you are a cheater to boot!
Who knew?!??!
You have made the HL2DMU's Hall of Fame DOUCHEBAG!

Congrats.

"How do YOU have proof that i decompiled your maps, and copied and pasted, When i posted the map, and was writing the description, I wasn't telling everyone I was COPING those maps, I was saying that i USED them for the textures/models."

LMAO! You used those maps and used large chunks of them. And you ADMIT IT!
You did but you didn't!?!?
That is the point of this thread
And how can one say you co-opted large chunks of other folks work?
Well, many here just posted that you did and it is obvious.
Not one. More than one. And it is SO obvious.

And then you hurl that slimey ethnic epithet.
And you are a cheater to boot!
Who knew?!??!
You have made the HL2DMU's Hall of Fame DOUCHEBAG!

Congrats.

This topic is over a year old. He is no longer here.

This topic is over a year old. He is no longer here.

That's good. But his second map link is still working.

Hey, I saw a map on this: 195.131.104.140:27025 server and thought hmmm this looks a lot like xbow eye.. And I saw earlier versions of it, but this doesn't seem to be one: http://FastFreeFileHosting.com/file/370 ... p-bsp.html

I downloaded that map while searching for "jump" in the IWU maps list. From all the maps I downloaded with keywords "tr" and "jump" I found some maps that are very well known with totaly diferent names and some of them without the original's credits. I can't remember which ones were, but that's one of them.
Man that list if full of rips from ppl maps, but they are cloaked with weird names or just simply diferent ones...

http://iwuclan.com/hl2death/maps/

"This topic is over a year old. He is no longer here."

Yeah, bored.