HL2DM OB Immaculate Map Pack

Since all Pre OrangeBox maps look and perform pretty bad and many are broken or half broken (not to mention not making ANY use of the slew of new features in the current engine) i've decide to take on a project of revamping and re-compiling all stock and custom maps and release in several map packs.

The custom maps i will include will initially be those i think should make the cut and i'm opened to suggestions:

If anyone thinks a certain map should be included in the project please post the name of the map and if info available; the author as well. if i don't have that map it will be up to that person suggesting it to provide a DL link.
Some maps will not be included in this like Octagon for example for technical reasons - i just can't be arsed with such a huge although amazingly done map.
I want to make it clear this project does not regard or claim authoring rights or claim permissions. in simple words - i don't care about permissions since i'm not going to put my name in anywhere or benefit from this other than enjoy them on my servers. the idea is to have a working set of maps that are making full use of the current engine and that are compatible with it as well as removing any broken entities / functionalities from maps that didn't make the port in one piece.

Any questions, clarifications feel free. . .

[EYE] Valar wrote:Since all Pre OrangeBox maps look and perform pretty bad and many are broken or half broken (not to mention not making ANY use of the slew of new features in the current engine) i've decide to take on a project of revamping and re-compiling all stock and custom maps and release in several map packs.

The custom maps i will include will initially be those i think should make the cut and i'm opened to suggestions:

If anyone thinks a certain map should be included in the project please post the name of the map and if info available; the author as well. if i don't have that map it will be up to that person suggesting it to provide a DL link.
Some maps will not be included in this like Octagon for example for technical reasons - i just can't be arsed with such a huge although amazingly done map.
I want to make it clear this project does not regard or claim authoring rights or claim permissions. in simple words - i don't care about permissions since i'm not going to put my name in anywhere or benefit from this other than enjoy them on my servers. the idea is to have a working set of maps that are making full use of the current engine and that are compatible with it as well as removing any broken entities / functionalities from maps that didn't make the port in one piece.

Any questions, clarifications feel free. . .

So are you just going to fix the ones that dont work at all?? I would think you may have more issues then originally be decompiling some of them, but most maps do well with a decompile. Im just curious what your actual plans are. You just planning to decomp and then recompile, rebuild cubemaps and make sure they work? Or are you planning to decomp, optimize it more, fix lighting and other obvious issues, recompile in ldr and hdr, rebuild cubemaps, make sure it works, then re release?

Thanks Valar..
I'm glad we can count on someone like you to make the maps we play work and perform properly and not get all caught up in rights and or bickering over necessary changes (what ever they may be) to accomplish that.

Sacrifist wrote:planning to decomp, optimize it more, fix lighting and other obvious issues, recompile in ldr and hdr, rebuild cubemaps, make sure it works, then re release?

this.

Theres a special spot in my heart for dm_7hour and even before the update it was in desperate need of optimization. I remember I tried to contact the creator of it but he never answered so if the map needs an edit then it should be fine, I dont think he'd mind anyway.

I was worried someone'll bring this up heh. but i'll give it a try.

Hey at least I was nice and didn't mention dm_morbid.. owaitaminute.

Whoops.

No worries man get to it whenever you want to. lol

remake this from scratch to truly show off your mapping skills and also for lulz

Link

Got a list of the main ones you are considering doing?

ALL STOCK MAPS
tigcrik_r2
swamplight_final
subculture
stalkward
lostvillage
joyride
greenhouse
drift_revised
caverns_r1 - will try getting in touch with meekle in case he wants to do it
bounce
backbone
avalone_b1
amplitude_r2
abyss_fixed
aim_arena_reloaded - ko is more than welcome to do it
will try to get in touch with swot about bio and LA

[EYE] Valar wrote:

caverns_r1 - will try getting in touch with meekle in case he wants to do it

GL with that, i havent seen that guy in ages. has anybody talked to him?

Ghost, you're friends with Michael. any contact?

You know, if meekle doesnt wanna mess with it, Ill retexture it and give it a theme . At least try to get the vmf from him.

I don't need the VMF i has h4x
but if he's still around i think he should at least be asked.

BTW, old topic...WTF so much shit in lockdown!!!! i mean seriously...i can't get over it no matter how many times I see it. 90% utterly useless/broken crap and 10% uber unoptimized map holly cow!!!
that hallowed area behind the shotty toilets?...that's not even from the game. this must be something that was worked on during beta, didn't make it to the final SP version yet it was just left in there!!! then they made the MP version and still left it in there (unreachable breakables, func_doors, sounds, math_counters and a slew of user groups that make no sense at all). i'd be a fly on the wall when that guy worked on LD... must've been like 10 min job lmao. ok here's your map. done. next.

best part is reading how some ppl praise this map like it's some holy grail. talk about fools' chance.

They probably just copied and pasted the shotty rooms val. lul.

Immaculate erection.

[EYE] Valar wrote:I don't need the VMF i has h4x
but if he's still around i think he should at least be asked.

BTW, old topic...WTF so much shit in lockdown!!!! i mean seriously...i can't get over it no matter how many times I see it. 90% utterly useless/broken crap and 10% uber unoptimized map holly cow!!!
that hallowed area behind the shotty toilets?...that's not even from the game. this must be something that was worked on during beta, didn't make it to the final SP version yet it was just left in there!!! then they made the MP version and still left it in there (unreachable breakables, func_doors, sounds, math_counters and a slew of user groups that make no sense at all). i'd be a fly on the wall when that guy worked on LD... must've been like 10 min job lmao. ok here's your map. done. next.

best part is reading how some ppl praise this map like it's some holy grail. talk about fools' chance.

I think its better then overwatch, but both are terrible. Btw, Im well aware you can just decomp it with vmex lol. I assumed you would ask him for the vmf though. Isnt he still in tsgk? After thinking it over, Id rather work on my map then mess with caverns lol. I will help you out with some older maps though if you want. Optimizing, fixing lights, cubemapping and recompiling isnt that big of deal. I do worry a little for you though, as some of those older maps are not optimized for shit and wont compile well unless you damn near rebuild them. Ive decomped older maps and was amazed they would even compile lol.

Someone should have the vmf its usually part of the rules of the map comps isnt it?

Helix
Feudal
Air Fusion
Octagon
Democracy
Vault

dm_suspended
http://rapidshare.com/files/423943760/dm_suspended.zip
Has a bad spawn which gets you stuck which didnt happen in old engine and crossbow doesnt spawn also too much crap laying around.

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I expect Boshed will want to remake Helix to OB engine and possibly with some tweaks.

OMG dm_democracy would be great. Good suggestion Impala. That has a bad spawn point, and could probably use some other improvements too. xD

The Argumentalizer wrote:Helix
Feudal
Air Fusion
Octagon
Democracy
Vault

i'm not going to touch a map that was made by someone who is still around and active:

helix
feudal

octagon i said i'm not going to touch. it's too damn big lol. sorry. it's a great map.

added democracy (got it) and vault (I need a DL link). thanks.

checking out suspended keefy.

Vault Link

http://www.khaosclan.net/hl2dm/hl2mp/ma ... lt.bsp.bz2

oh was just gonna ask for bounce, cool that u already had it in mind
just for the lulz, http://iwuclan.com/hl2death/maps/dm_oh_ ... v1.bsp.bz2

Update:

Most maps in the port to OB have major issues. as in, more than i've initially realized. lighting needs to be redone for the most part.
although, it is no big surprise that levels that were made by skilled and tidy mappers like Ko-Tao's aim_arena_reloaded look and play the same even after the port. big ups to you Ko. bio on the other hand is just a big mess. bigger than lockdown (yes, that's possible). the amount of illegal brushes, leaks and lighting errors is overwhelming.
this gonna take a bit longer than i first thought.

The soundscapes can get messed up too often they sound really loud and overpowering.

out of curiosity, what will you be titling the remakes you do?

"_ob"

Bio is a mess!?

The Argumentalizer wrote:Bio is a mess!?

For some odd reason I haven't been able to play bio since the update. Game freezes on d/l of graph, and then I have to kill hl2 in task manager. I uninstalled/reinstalled so we'll see what happens...

i have a shittest pc eva, all games and mods based on source 2007 are wild laggy to me - they launch 10 minutes and connect to the server about 5 minutes. FPS is very bad and game runs like a piece of shit, always fps drops to 5 , that's the worst i could imagine

idk what did he do, but Sub-Zero's mod runs even better than the old hl2dm, it launch immediately and works perfectly smooth. damm smooth...

If u want to fix fps - ask Lich aka Skaruts too, he's a real genious on that

As for me, I like if u want to fix something doesnt work anymore on the new engine, but i dont like if u remake them like put smth of yourself or make a bad fps or put the same name :0 but u made so many nice maps, so we can trust u

[EYE] Valar wrote:Update:

Most maps in the port to OB have major issues. as in, more than i've initially realized. lighting needs to be redone for the most part.
although, it is no big surprise that levels that were made by skilled and tidy mappers like Ko-Tao's aim_arena_reloaded look and play the same even after the port. big ups to you Ko. bio on the other hand is just a big mess. bigger than lockdown (yes, that's possible). the amount of illegal brushes, leaks and lighting errors is overwhelming.
this gonna take a bit longer than i first thought.

Im not surprised. You are like me when it comes to mapping. You cant handle seeing shitty brushwork, errors, leaks, and other shoddy ass work. Everytime I decomp an older dm map to look at it, it rather has tons of things that make me cringe, or it was done by someone that knows wtf they are doing. In dm, the better built maps (that are played a lot) are rare imo. So, yes, you are going to have your hands full. I'd love to split the load with you on this, but I just dont have the damn time to help you out much right now. Best bet is to start with the most played maps and go from there I guess.

Beef wrote:

The Argumentalizer wrote:Bio is a mess!?

For some odd reason I haven't been able to play bio since the update. Game freezes on d/l of graph, and then I have to kill hl2 in task manager. I uninstalled/reinstalled so we'll see what happens...

Same problem here and I know a few more people having this problem :\

Would be cool if someone could make biohazard run for everyone asap as it's an often played map in Europe at least. Can't live without mah biohazard

Kevin The King wrote:

Beef wrote:

The Argumentalizer wrote:Bio is a mess!?

For some odd reason I haven't been able to play bio since the update. Game freezes on d/l of graph, and then I have to kill hl2 in task manager. I uninstalled/reinstalled so we'll see what happens...

Same problem here and I know a few more people having this problem :\

Would be cool if someone could make biohazard run for everyone asap as it's an often played map in Europe at least. Can't live without mah biohazard

That sucks. I reinstalled and still no go on bio. Oh well. I should try it on the OB mod and see if it works.

There is a way to make biohazard run for those who freeze at the download graph.
Just set mat_dxlevel 90 in your config and it should work again.

bio (cal) and LD will be released during or right after this coming weekend