G5 sensitivity problem...

I made a new config to set my pistol to one of my side mouse buttons and for some reason it changes the sensitivity/dpi in my game. This totally F*cks me up. Can anyone help me fix this?

disable game detection.

What he said. Game detection is a FAIL.

Don't use the drivers, i installed my G9 drivers to initially set it up but soon after unistaleld them becasue all my settigns ar stored on the mouse its self buteven with my old 518 i never used the drivers.

The G9 is different than the G5. The G5 does not store settings on flash memory inside the mouse like the G9 does.
I personally use the set point software with my G5 and it works fine.
The key is to do this:
Figure out what sensitivity you like and want to use, set it and make sure the light is on the top sensitivity position.
Assign keystrokes to buttons 3-9 leaving 1 and 2 as left click and right click.
I use keystroke assignments that are far away from keys I normally use such as o,p,[,],\,k,l,;,' ect
So by assigning keystrokes to buttons 8-9 you disable the ability to change sensitivity on the fly.
Game detection you can leave on ( i had it on for a long time, but prolly best left off) or off but if on you need to check keep mouse acceleration, keep mouse speed, keep right /left hand button assignments and leave *unchecked* keep other button assignments.
Also check set point implementation on the same page. I personally use NO pointer acceleration, leave enable smart move unchecked as well as enable pointer trails unchecked. pointer speed I leave right in the middle of the slider. Under advanced game settings I set my number one DPI as 2000 and number 2-5 dont really matter to me(just let them be whatever but it might not be a bad idea to set them to something very close like 1995,1990,1985 just incase a malfunction happens ingame) as I have it locked on that setting and by assigning the keystrokes to buttons 8-9 that wont ever change. Make sure the sensitivity light is on the top notch on your mouse under the man running before you start setting it up and it will always stay that way. Report rate I have at 500, messed wit setting it at 1000 but don't see a difference. In game I use a sensitivity of 2.5 and I'm really comfortable with these settings.
No software is perfect and once or twice in the last year the sensitivity light moved down from the top notch, not sure what made it happen but the way to fix it is to reboot your computer and as soon as you see the lights come on your mouse you start pressing the number 8 button (sensitivty +) and it will go back. The trick is to do that before the setpoint software can load on your OS and over ride the default mouse programming. Lastly I would not use the set point that came on the CD with your mouse, go to the site and download the newest version.
I have something bound to all 11 possible buttons (via keystrokes saved in my autoexec.cfg) on the mouse, and use everything frequently with no problems.

I tried messign with report rate on my G9 but it made me use up to 20% processor on AMD x2 4800 when moving very fast like a quick 180flick shot, it is only for a brief second though.

half-past wrote:disable game detection.

That's what I did. Works fine now.

i put my pointer speed at 7 point and at 6point it feels like dead as a log. mine is 1800dpi with in game sens of 1 feels good at those settings.

SND wrote:i put my pointer speed at 7 point and at 6point it feels like dead as a log. mine is 1800dpi with in game sens of 1 feels good at those settings.

Pointer speed 6, 2000 dpi and sens of 1. Works for me.

This has been helpful to me.

I'm still taming my new g5.

I find what works best is if you sneak up on the g5 during pregame, then jam your thumb roight in it's rear, then you will subdue it.

i hate to revisit this issue. maybe you have some other suggestions l2k. my g5 has started acting up within the past 2 weeks. it's the on-the-fly dpi that seems to be the issue. and the problem began the very night i updated setpoint to the latest release.

worked fine with these following settings upon initial setup. in game detection is off. mouse sense is 6. report rate 500. dpi 2000. here are the things i've tried so far:

1. unchecked setpoint and checked OS mouse operation (didn't fix)
2. changed 2nd and 3rd dpi settings to 1995 and 1990 (dpi still changed on its own and felt like it reverted back to the dpi settings of 800 and 400)
3. reassigned m7 and m8 to "do nothing" (still didn't fix)
4. removed 2nd and 3rd dpi settings entirely (dpi still changed on its own and felt like it reverted back to the dpi settings of 800 and 400)
5. uninstalled setpoint and reinstalled the older software version from cd (this reduced how often the dpi changes occurred, but it does still happen)

at one point last night, the g5 went completely dead. no buttons at all worked. a reboot of the pc corrected that, but it still continued switching dpi on its own. this g5 is only 4 months old, so i'm pretty pissed.

2 things i'll try tonight are assigning the m7 and m8 buttons to a keystroke, as you suggested. see if that helps. as a last resort, i guess i'll have to uninstall setpoint and just use the windows settings. i really think that would piss me off the most. whats the point of spending good money on a "gaming mouse" if you have to resort to using the lowest possible dpi setting with your OS operating system? and i wonder if m4 and m5 will even work???

Im using setpoint version 4.40, and its still working fine for me.
Id say that assigning the keystrokes to those keys would fix it unless your using another version of setpoint that is broken. Pretty much all my setting are like yours with the exception of the keystokes on those keys, so try that.
As far as everything going dead, that can be a problem with your usb bus and as you stated a reboot usually fixes that.

good thought about the usb port. i might switch that as well. as i said, i did download an updated version of setpoint... 4.6. my advice is DON'T! i think the setpoint version from the cd is 4.0. i'll try to google for version 4.4 and see if i can find that version for a download. my luck... probably not.

ok... i uninstalled setpoint and reinstalled setpoint 4.40. same problem, although it only happens 2 or 3 times per map now. changed usb port, same problem. assigned the dpi mouse buttons to blank keys, same problem. uninstalled setpoint completely, same problem. even used some compressed air around all the mouse buttons and cleaned the mouse lense.

i was a little surprised to find that the mouse dpi buttons still worked even after setpoint was uninstalled. makes me wonder if it was completely removed from the system.

i guess i'll buy another g5 and see if that mouse has the same problem. if no, i'll send this one back to logitech for replacement. if yes... then i guess it's a software issue and i'm not sure how i'll address it.

wow thats wierd that nothing will stop that.

I went back to logitech because Razer was always dropping its firmware. I have never used any setpoint with 518s or G5 and never had a problem, except wearing them out in 6 months.
I used an applet post somewhere that disposed of accel. and other stuff in Windows.
I set my sens at 2.5 and everything else high. I guess dpi is 1800 but who cares. That is resolution.

Problems i keep hearing about have something to do with running the software in Windows, which is not needed in the first place, IMO.

well, as far as i can tell, i have uninstalled setpoint. unless something is still lingering in my registry. i don't have a clue to find out, or how to clean it completely out if thats the case.

but should windows operation of the g5 still recognize the dpi buttons? i assumed they wouldn't function w/o setpoint. but they still do.

confusing the shit out of me.

CellarDweller wrote:well, as far as i can tell, i have uninstalled setpoint. unless something is still lingering in my registry. i don't have a clue to find out, or how to clean it completely out if thats the case.

but should windows operation of the g5 still recognize the dpi buttons? i assumed they wouldn't function w/o setpoint. but they still do.

confusing the shit out of me.

The DPI butons work without any drivers installed just they cannot be customised to whatever you want they only use factory set defaults.

update: bought a new g5. played for about an hour this morning and no dpi hopping!

i won't be reinstalling setpoint.

now i just have to convince logitech to take back their 3 month old g5 and send me another. won't hurt to have a spare i suppose. it still bothers me that it only lasted 3 months.

this is just fucked up. logitech replaced the first g5 i purchased. i went ahead and purchased a second while waiting for the replacement. the second one i purchased is now behaving exactly like the first one. changing dpi randomly on its own. i dont even have setpoint installed anymore so i cant blame that. wtf??? should i be looking at my system somewhere instead of blaming the mouse?

jhc! at least the deathadder lasted nearly two years. this will be my 3rd g5 since april of '08. why would the mouse work fine initially then suddenly go berserk? wtf???

here's what logitech is suggesting: http://logitech-en-ap.custhelp.com/cgi- ... 1085067267

since i'm not running setpoint, and the mouse worked perfectly for the past 20 some days... i'm a bit skeptical. anyone think it will work?

i'm on the road and can't try this until saturday.

Are you sure you are not hitting the buttons yourself in game?

I've had this same problem with my g5 when I first got it, running the latest setpoint from their website and disabling game detection is exactly what solved it for me, my g5 has worked fine for almost 5 months right now.

Do you use windows xp? If so does it have service pack 3?

no impala, i'm not hitting the + - buttons. Ghost Dog, when i was using setpoint with the first mouse, game detection was disabled. i am running xp with sp3.

i think this is about poor quality with the g5 version 2 or w/e it is. it's the blue g5 with five mouse buttons.

try this with yours.... lift the g5 off the surface and turn it over so you can look at the lense. when i do that, my mouse changes dpi then dies. i have to reboot to get it to work again. maybe thats a feature or something, so im curious if it happens to other g5's.

Well, you have hit on something troubleshooting wise. I have the same G5 and have no problems and it does not cut out when lifted and turned. It is doubtful it is three different G-5s, all defective.
Statistically, that is far fetched.

I think it is all the mold in that cellar! You need the place abated and fast. Its probably giving you health problems.

JK! Seriously, there must be a some kind of USB or Windows problem. Three different identical mouse, SAME PC.

Try this Registry fix to disable acceleration and see if it helps scroll down to MouseReg Fix
http://www.fpsgod.com/disabling-mouse-a ... indows-xp/

actually only two of the three have failed me. the two i purchased. the freebie (replacement one from logitech) hasn't been hooked up yet. and both the sketchy mice have the same problem when hooked up to a different computer. that tends to support a mouse issue not a hardware issue. and btw, the mice are both pretty usable for basic computer work... but completely unusable ingame with hl2dm. the failures always occur during advanced moves. but i didnt pay $60 apiece for a gaming mouse that wont game.

No mine doesn't do that either cause I check the lens often for dust, I almost wonder if you're having a USB problem I have the same g5.

here's my latest theory. the g5 has a very stiff cord. my keyboard and mouse are sitting in a computer desk drawer. the mouse cord is routed through a hole in the center of the back wall of the drawer. while playing hl2dm i need some "slack" for the mouse cord. the cord winds up forming an upside down U, or an omega symbol. where the cord attaches to the front of the mouse, the cord is in a permanent 90% angle. i think that eventually this causes the mouse to malfunction. seem plausible? logitechs clean boot and setpoint bullshit certainly isnt fixing the problem. i'll have to look and see if i can just let the mouse cord route over the back wall of the drawer. but im concerned the edges would eventually cause the cord to fray.

edit: yeah ghost dog, i thought that too. i've tried the mouse in every usb port on my box. and for good measure i also tried the usb ports on my logitech keyoard. no dice... same problem. tonight i tried "straightening" the mouse cord at the nose of the mouse... and the dpi switched or the mouse died everytime it tried it.

I am trying to replicate this and havent succeeded. I jerk the cord like that and even lift it up and i have the same model. No problem.

What mother board are you using?

Motherboard manufacturer's name: Asus A8N-LA
HP/Compaq name: Nagami2-GL8E

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/docu ... 84153#N433

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/docu ... t=3184153#

in the setpoint turn it to os implementation set point implementing is rubbish i always get trouble with it as long as u got the mouse fix installed the os implementation should not give u much trouble for sensitivity. G5s are pretty strong I have abused it for 9 months so far np so far apart from my mouse wheel not working because there was a fur ball blocking the laser trigger for the wheel fixed it by opening it up and cleaning is so i throw away the manufacture guarantee. Also turn off game detection also helps.

well, i lost everything. somehow i managed to fuck up the clean boot logitech advised. lost all the registry shit. bought another drive and a new xp home edition disk (didn't want that xp media center shit anymore). installed the new hard drive and didnt think about disconnecting the old one in the process. so i wiped my old drive by accident.

lets just say a calamity of problems ensued. i can't get either the new or old os to connect to the internet. the old one won't recognize the upgrades i've made... the new one recognizes them but needs to access the internet to ugrade the drivers.

so i pay someone to try and fix it, or i buy a new box and cannibalize the old one. im already out $315 today and 12 hours of my time. fuck fuck fuck.

CellarDweller wrote:well, i lost everything. somehow i managed to fuck up the clean boot logitech advised. lost all the registry shit. bought another drive and a new xp home edition disk (didn't want that xp media center shit anymore). installed the new hard drive and didnt think about disconnecting the old one in the process. so i wiped my old drive by accident.

lets just say a calamity of problems ensued. i can't get either the new or old os to connect to the internet. the old one won't recognize the upgrades i've made... the new one recognizes them but needs to access the internet to ugrade the drivers.

so i pay someone to try and fix it, or i buy a new box and cannibalize the old one. im already out $315 today and 12 hours of my time. fuck fuck fuck.

bloody hell

can't help but say LOGITECH EPIC FAIL

Do you have a floppy? If the drive is SATA, youll have to find the SATA drivers and make a floppy disk for loading those during install. Go to someone elses PC and DL all the latest driver for your chipset for after the initial install.
Sorry this happened! Did you format the old drive or does it not let you access it?
If it is not reformatted, you could install it as a slave and use a Partition manager to move the data off.

i dunno if this helps but ive used linux a cpl of times to access disks
coz windows was so gubbed usually connects to teh inernet np too for ur drivers etc try http://www.linuxmint.com/ and use it a live distro without installing it to ur HD. Get ur info, drivers updates etc onto a USB stick then boot up and install...usually wrx when i fk up now and again u can get live distros from a linux mag for about a fiver and if you can get a hold of Hirens Boot CD (ssshhhh) you can partition from DOS and save ur info...hope this helps and is relevant

Yes, but he needs drivers for his Motherboard chipset to even be able to get to the internet.
This isnt an OS problem. He wiped his Hdd by mistake and doenst have the chipset drivers, which means he must dl them from another PC. Laptop maybe?

yep. got it covered. d/l from laptop to flash drive. took a bit to find the correct drivers. i still have one unknown showing on my device manager. don't have a clue what it is. but things are running again. except, of course... the logitech g5. which seems to work fine until i load dm and join a server or create a server. give it 2 minutes on a server... and it's dead. =/